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[fskimospy]

No.

The HQ's are in cities, but in many cases the GDP is actually produced some where else.

Fern

No.

If you want to make that argument please provide stats.

 

[Fern]

No.

If you want to make that argument please provide stats.

Where's your's?

Fern

 

[Moonbeam]

Where's your's?

Fern

America's Most Productive Metros -- Real GDP Per Capita
Rank Metro Real GDP Per Capita 2012
1 Midland, TX $100,178
2 San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, CA $90,528
3 Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk, CT $80,158
4 Casper, WY $76,467
5 San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, CA $69,542
6 Durham-Chapel Hill, NC $69,468
7 Washington-Arlington-Alexandria, DC-MD-VA-WV $66,433
8 Trenton, NJ $65,631
9 Seattle-Tacoma-Bellevue, WA $64,188
10 Anchorage, AK $64,174
11 Boston-Cambridge-Newton, MA-NH $63,745
12 Corvallis, OR $62,560
13 Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land, TX $62,438
14 Portland-Vancouver-Hillsboro, OR-WA $62,028
15 Des Moines-West Des Moines, IA $61,777
16 Sioux Falls, SD $60,954
17 Boulder, CO $60,533
18 New York-Newark-Jersey City, NY-NJ-PA $59,172
19 Hartford-West Hartford-East Hartford, CT $57,088
30 New Orleans-Metairie, LA $56,119

A disproportionate number of cities from Honkyland are doing well because of energy production.

 

[Moonbeam]

You realize that cities are made up of different economic levels, right?

Newsflash: Newport Beach (more conservative) is a desirable place to live, Watts (more liberal) isn't.

Take a look at this, and keep in mind, this is in a "liberal" state, California.

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...6094&spn=12.777766,17.578125&z=5&source=embed

In Southern California, the places with red arrows (more conservative) are mostly places you couldn't afford to live in. The places you'd probably get shot walking around in at night have the blue arrows. (more liberal).

Now of course like I said, in the very next thread you'll be spinning that rich areas are full of greedy, evil people who won't give their fair share to your government masters, but it's funny how in this thread you're living vicariously through them as making the country work.

Couldn't we say it this way. Where a lot of sharks congregate, such as in big cities, there is a lot more shark poop that falls to the bottom than say in open water country, and more shark poop on the bottom, more bottom feeders. I believe it's called trickle down but it helps to live close to the trickle teat.

 

[Fern]

No.

If you want to make that argument please provide stats.

I don't think there are any reliable stats.

A lot of the GDP is from large corporations. They have the financial data that splits their operations (GDP) out by state (not city or county), but that's private info and not released to the public.

It will be pretty hard to persuade me that, in the absence of the companies' own data, somebody can accurately figure it out.

I live in a rural county. You can't trow a rock without hitting a manufacturing facility owned by some US or foreign multinational.

You can't drive through the farmlands without signs like "Monsanto Corp". Now they ship the goods (corn, whatever) somewhere else for storage and distribution. They don't sell it out of here so the credit for the revenue (GDP) is going elsewhere.

Manufacturing, mining, farming, logging, oil production and others are all primarily done outside of large cities.

Other businesses (GDP) are spread out all over the country, e.g., banking (especially retail) and health care.

I just don't think there's a reliable way to sort that out. Nor do I think any statement that large cities generate "the majority of the GDP" is correct.

Fern

 

[fskimospy]

I don't think there are any reliable stats.

A lot of the GDP is from large corporations. They have the financial data that splits their operations (GDP) out by state (not city or county), but that's private info and not released to the public.

It will be pretty hard to persuade me that, in the absence of the companies' own data, somebody can accurately figure it out.

I live in a rural county. You can't trow a rock without hitting a manufacturing facility owned by some US or foreign multinational.

You can't drive through the farmlands without signs like "Monsanto Corp". Now they ship the goods (corn, whatever) somewhere else for storage and distribution. They don't sell it out of here so the credit for the revenue (GDP) is going elsewhere.

Manufacturing, mining, farming, logging, oil production and others are all primarily done outside of large cities.

Other businesses (GDP) are spread out all over the country, e.g., banking (especially retail) and health care.

I just don't think there's a reliable way to sort that out. Nor do I think any statement that large cities generate "the majority of the GDP" is correct.

Fern

Of course there is. Look at it by census area.

Stop trying to wave your hands. It is undeniably true.

 

[DCal430]

Please explain the Colorado river?

The Colorado river is in CALIFORNIA too. Some rivers actually flow in more than 1 state you know, and the intake is in CALIFORNIA.

Also only as small portion of the water used in SoCal comes from the colorado river.

 

[DCal430]

70 to 90% of the water used by the state are from the Sacramento and San Joaquin rivers.

 

[Zaap]

Hahaha. Like I figured. Flailing.

It's both funny and bizarre that you are at one hand trying to point to expensive places in California that you think are conservative and declare them to be good, but ignore the even more valuable places that are liberal.

We all know it. You're desperately trying to find a way to validate what you believe. It's stupid, but it's yours. Just own your stupidity.

And look at him spin, as always!

Notice how you can't point to any place that's conservative being a shithole.

And while you were spinning, did you even bother to look at the list of cities? Of course not, you're an idiot that always does exactly what you accuse every one else of.

San Francisco, CA - nice area, but much of it like the Tenderloin is a shithole.
Compton, CA -shithole
San Pablo, CA -shithole
Fairfax, CA -shithole
Richmond, CA shithole
Albany, CA -shithole
Inglewood, CA -shithole
Emeryville, CA -probably the most consistently nice place to live of the whole list
Oakland, CA -shithole
Berkeley, CA -crazy for the most part but fairly upscale

Conservative:
Temecula, CA -upscale
Palos Verdes Estates, CA -extreme upscale
Ridgecrest, CA -upscale
Coronado, CA -upscale
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA upscale
San Clemente, CA -upscale
Yorba Linda, CA -extreme upscale
San Marino, CA -upscale
Newport Beach, CA -extreme upscale
Canyon Lake, CA -upscale

Oh but MORE places are liberal- let's not look at the differences in quality of those places!

Now quick, BACK to your spin!

 

[Fern]

Of course there is. Look at it by census area.
-snip-

What data and where do they get it?

Fern

 

[Victorian Gray]

The incredible GDP map that shows half of U.S. output is generated by a few cities

The report:

http://www.usmayors.org/metroeconomies/2013/201311-report.pdf

map from this link:

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/capito...ows-half-of-output-generated-by-a-few-cities/

 

[fskimospy]

The incredible GDP map that shows half of U.S. output is generated by a few cities

The report:

http://www.usmayors.org/metroeconomies/2013/201311-report.pdf

map from this link:

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/capito...ows-half-of-output-generated-by-a-few-cities/

Yeah that.

It's amazing the bubble people live in.

 

[fskimospy]

And look at him spin, as always!

Notice how you can't point to any place that's conservative being a shithole.

And while you were spinning, did you even bother to look at the list of cities? Of course not, you're an idiot that always does exactly what you accuse every one else of.

San Francisco, CA - nice area, but much of it like the Tenderloin is a shithole.
Compton, CA -shithole
San Pablo, CA -shithole
Fairfax, CA -shithole
Richmond, CA shithole
Albany, CA -shithole
Inglewood, CA -shithole
Emeryville, CA -probably the most consistently nice place to live of the whole list
Oakland, CA -shithole
Berkeley, CA -crazy for the most part but fairly upscale

Conservative:
Temecula, CA -upscale
Palos Verdes Estates, CA -extreme upscale
Ridgecrest, CA -upscale
Coronado, CA -upscale
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA upscale
San Clemente, CA -upscale
Yorba Linda, CA -extreme upscale
San Marino, CA -upscale
Newport Beach, CA -extreme upscale
Canyon Lake, CA -upscale

Oh but MORE places are liberal- let's not look at the differences in quality of those places!

Now quick, BACK to your spin!

It's funny, I've been to quite a few of those places and it is obvious you haven't. Nice try on rebutting evidence with anecdotal raging.

Like I said, you're just flailing because admitting your ideas were wrong is apparently too much.

 

[Zaap]

It's funny, I've been to quite a few of those places and it is obvious you haven't. Nice try on rebutting evidence with anecdotal raging.

Like I said, you're just flailing because admitting your ideas were wrong is apparently too much.

HAHA! You've proved you've been to practically none of those places if you think the liberal list is more impressive than the conservative list. Let me guess, you've been to San Francisco and Bezerkley where you'd fit right in, maybe. NONE of the other places.

(And let's of course do what you're ONLY capable of doing and pretend for a minute we won't find a similar pattern all across the country- more conservative= more likely to be wealthier upscale areas surrounding the metro areas, most liberal more likely to be the rotten to the core inner cities.)

 

[fskimospy]

HAHA! You've proved you've been to practically none of those places if you think the liberal list is more impressive than the conservative list. Let me guess, you've been to San Francisco and Bezerkley where you'd fit right in, maybe. NONE of the other places.

(And let's of course do what you're ONLY capable of doing and pretend for a minute we won't find a similar pattern all across the country- more conservative= more likely to be wealthier upscale areas surrounding the metro areas, most liberal more likely to be the rotten to the core inner cities.)

No I've been to plenty of those places. It's hilarious that you would try to talk about how awesome Temecula is. It just comes from some dumbass who is trying to figure out why his ideology isn't wrong.

Don't worry. You can figure it out someday. The rest are the same way.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Yeah that.

It's amazing the bubble people live in.

It's not like the information is hard to find.

Here's some more:

http://stateimpact.npr.org/new-hamp...-rural-ones-and-new-englands-a-case-in-point/

and this (note, link is direct to a pdf from this site: http://www.mckinsey.com/). Among other things it claims that roughly 85% of US GDP in 2010 was generated by 259 large cities in the US:

http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j...UpveOZT64l3--Qt9qO-GNvQ&bvm=bv.80642063,d.aWw

And:

"The strength of the US economy rests on a broad base of large cities."

http://www.mckinsey.com/insights/urbanization/us_cities_in_the_global_economy

 

[Zaap]

No I've been to plenty of those places.

LOL! That statement even reeks of "I haven't been to those places, but let me say "plenty" to give an impression I have.

It's hilarious that you would try to talk about how awesome Temecula is. It just comes from some dumbass who is trying to figure out why his ideology isn't wrong.

Don't worry. You can figure it out someday. The rest are the same way.

LOL! Your spin has gotten weaker and weaker over time! It used to be fairly good, but these days you're just lost. What happened?

Temecula's median household income is $75,000. It's wine country you moron. NO, I don't beleve you've been there, or you were actually SO FUCKING STUPID you just looked around and saw vineyards and in your usual pinhead fashion thought, "Oh, look at all these poor hicks growing whatever is in those fields! It's rural so they must be poor!"

You're a complete idiot, but it is entertaining seeing you try desperately to spin this!

 

[fskimospy]

LOL! That statement even reeks of "I haven't been to those places, but let me say "plenty" to give an impression I have.



LOL! Your spin has gotten weaker and weaker over time! It used to be fairly good, but these days you're just lost. What happened?

Temecula's median household income is $75,000. It's wine country you moron. NO, I don't beleve you've been there, or you were actually SO FUCKING STUPID you just looked around and saw vineyards and in your usual pinhead fashion thought, "Oh, look at all these poor hicks growing whatever is in those fields! It's rural so they must be poor!"

You're a complete idiot, but it is entertaining seeing you try desperately to spin this!

Haha rage some more. I have been there many times and I have seen what a hellhole it has become. Have you been there even once? Of course not, you shit stain.

You rely on anecdotal evidence because actual math is too scary for you.

It's sad to see someone who is so buried in ideology like you.

 

[Zaap]

sheer desperation

It's just sad, dude. Actually trying to spin that Temecula is some kind of terrible place (and as if it were even just about that ONE place) just to distract from the fact that you're a complete idiot.

I was right, you went there once and didn't realize that poor people don't own vineyards, didn't you? LMFAO!!

 

[fskimospy]

It's just sad, dude. Actually trying to spin that Temecula is some kind of terrible place (and as if it were even just about that ONE place) just to distract from the fact that you're a complete idiot.

I was right, you went there once and didn't realize that poor people don't own vineyards, didn't you? LMFAO!!

Have you ever actually been there?

I've been there probably two dozen times and I have numerous friends who have owned houses there.

Temecula is just one example of how stupid you are. You copied and pasted something from some website because you're too wedded to your ideology. It's sad.

 

[Zaap]

more pathetic desperation.

Wow, talk about sad.

So let's recap:
Lib simpleton mouths off about how liberal places=awesome, conservative places= terrible.

Is shown a map of one of the most liberal states overall showing pretty much exactly the opposite- the most conservative areas are all great places, most of them not only wealthy, but extremely so. Meanwhile the majority of the most liberal places are toilets.

Lib simpleton: "NUH UH!!" (That is literally your 'argument!') Then absolute desperation, "Temecula sucks!! WAHH!"

I mean, wow. It's like a 4 year old, and a not very bright one at that.

 

[charrison]

You mean supply and demand are not equal at those prices? That's what free market is. You making some claims about value this value that is just hot air.

This may have something to do with the price difference...

 

[tracerbullet]

Temecula

I'm curious if you've been there and if so how many times? What was your impression of it?

 

[Zaap]

I'm curious if you've been there and if so how many times? What was your impression of it?

Does it matter? Are we really running with eskimostooge's smoke screen?

Temecula is a pretty wealthy region. I've of course been there many times. I live in Los Angeles. It's a few hours away. Chances are pretty good I've been there more often than some dipshit in New York who's too dumb to know the only reason he's been there (if he isn't lying, like is is about 'plenty' of the other cities) is it's a tourist destination. (Hint: Compton isn't.)

My impression of it is: it's a hell of a nice place, as a wine region would tend to be. Not the greatest place on earth, sure... but a damn sight more desirable than fucking San Pablo or... just about the whole list of 'most liberal' except possibly Emeryville or the upscale areas of San Francisco.



Temecula's median income is $78,000. St. Paul's for example is $67,000.

 

[Moonbeam]

Does it matter? Are we really running with eskimostooge's smoke screen?

Temecula is a pretty wealthy region. I've of course been there many times. I live in Los Angeles. It's a few hours away. Chances are pretty good I've been there more often than some dipshit in New York who's too dumb to know the only reason he's been there (if he isn't lying, like is is about 'plenty' of the other cities) is it's a tourist destination. (Hint: Compton isn't.)

My impression of it is: it's a hell of a nice place, as a wine region would tend to be. Not the greatest place on earth, sure... but a damn sight more desirable than fucking San Pablo or... just about the whole list of 'most liberal' except possibly Emeryville or the upscale areas of San Francisco.

Temecula's median income is $78,000. St. Paul's for example is $67,000.

I think Eskimo is from San Diego, college wise. I have visions of him walking by the water on a dock with a small white restaurant and shops and stuff like that.