LA Clippers owner racist rant at girlfriend

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Lifer
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In an op-ed piece for Time magazine, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar questions whether the reaction to Donald Sterling is entirely fair.

He calls the publication of Sterling's private conversation with V. Stiviano "sleazy," and questions why the racially charged comments attributed to him were drawing more ridicule than his well-documented history of racist acts.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...bbar-donald-sterling-20140501,0,6400405.story

Kareem was recently interviewed on CNN; and some people have wondered didn't more NBA players and coaches already know all about Sterling? For example, CP3, Blake Griffin and Doc Rivers all signed long-term contracts for this owner. But Kareem was asked the question if DTS ever dropped overt racist language around him (Abdul-Jabbar was a Clippers assistant at some point), and he answered never in his presence.
 

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Lifer
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sorry but a 6 month window is false bravado. Even if the owners voted 29-0 to force a sale, he'd get it stuck in the courts for way longer than 180 days.

He's highly incentivized to do this, esp. since his reputation is permanently in tatters anyway. If he passes away as owner, he gets to avoid 24% capital gains tax on $1+ billion. Presumably if he hasn't divorced, his estate passes to his wife with an unlimited exemption on estate tax. But I'm not a lawyer or tax advisor.

Don't think he cares about his rep. Anyone mention the fact that he's 81 years old? A 'life-time' ban @ 81? :whiste:
 

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Well-intentioned white people who work within or support the NBA should be demanding that the NBA power structure cede some of its governing power to men and women who look like the overwhelming majority of the league's players.

Well then they should all be men :D
 

manly

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Don't think he cares about his rep. Anyone mention the fact that he's 81 years old? A 'life-time' ban @ 81? :whiste:
what I'm saying is that it doesn't matter whether he cares, his rep is forever trashed.

But we do know what he cares about is money; and so he'll assemble a fleet of lawyers to fight the hundreds of millions in capital gains tax even if it kills him. ;)
 

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http://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...bbar-donald-sterling-20140501,0,6400405.story

Kareem was recently interviewed on CNN; and some people have wondered didn't more NBA players and coaches already know all about Sterling? For example, CP3, Blake Griffin and Doc Rivers all signed long-term contracts for this owner. But Kareem was asked the question if DTS ever dropped overt racist language around him (Abdul-Jabbar was a Clippers assistant at some point), and he answered never in his presence.

Funny how EVERYONE knew the guy was racist YET they all still decided to sign contract and play for him.

NBA ignored this as well.....until this tape.

NOW it's a big issue.

:biggrin:
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
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Funny how EVERYONE knew the guy was racist YET they all still decided to sign contract and play for him.

NBA ignored this as well.....until this tape.

NOW it's a big issue.

:biggrin:

Actually, b/c not everyone did and there was no public proof like that have now.
 

lupi

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Was listening to some lawyer discussion on this. Problem one will be the overcoming the legal fight from Sterling if he decides to fight on basis of loss of property and lack of due process. Problem two would be if they culd get through problem one then the wife could fight it based on the state giving her a defacto 50% ownership of the husbands portion.
 

cabri

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IANAD but I believe prostate cancer is not one of the friendlier variants.

I had not heard as to which type it was.

http://www.cancer.org/cancer/prostatecancer/index?sitearea=dt=34

Prostate cancer is the most common cancer among men (after skin cancer), but it can often be treated successfully. More than 2 million men in the US count themselves as prostate cancer survivors
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/prostatecancer/detailedguide/prostate-cancer-survival-rates

Based on the below information, it looks like this form is not going to solve the headache for the NBA :thumbsup:


Survival rates for prostate cancer

Survival rates are often used by doctors as a standard way of discussing a person's prognosis (outlook). Some patients with cancer may want to know the survival statistics for people in similar situations, while others may not find the numbers helpful, or may even not want to know them. If you would rather not read the survival rates, skip to the next section.
The 5-year survival rate refers to the percentage of patients who live at least 5 years after their cancer is diagnosed. Of course, many of these people live much longer than 5 years (and many are cured).
Five-year relative survival rates, such as the numbers below, assume that some people will die of other causes and compare the observed survival with that expected for people without the cancer. This is a better way to see the impact of the cancer on survival.
In order to get 5-year survival rates, doctors have to look at people who were treated at least 5 years ago. Improvements in detection and treatment since then may result in a more favorable outlook for people now being diagnosed with prostate cancer.
Survival rates are often based on previous outcomes of large numbers of people who had the disease, but they cannot predict what will happen in any particular person's case. Many other factors may affect a person's outlook, such as the patient’s age and health, the treatment received, and how well the cancer responds to treatment. Your doctor can tell you how the numbers below may apply to you, as he or she is familiar with the aspects of your particular situation.
According to the most recent data, when including all stages of prostate cancer:

  • The relative 5-year survival rate is almost 100%
  • The relative 10-year survival rate is 99%
  • The 15-year relative survival rate is 94%

Keep in mind that just as 5-year survival rates are based on patients diagnosed and first treated more than 5 years ago,10-year survival rates are based on patients diagnosed more than 10 years ago (and 15-year survival rates are based on patients diagnosed at least 15years ago).
Survival rates by stage

The National Cancer Institute (NCI) maintains a large national database on survival statistics for different types of cancer. This database does not group cancers by AJCC stage, but instead groups cancers into local, regional, and distant stages.

  • Local stage means that there is no sign that the cancer has spread outside of the prostate. This corresponds to AJCC stages I and II. About 4 out of 5 prostate cancers are found in this early stage.
  • Regional stage means the cancer has spread from the prostate to nearby areas. This includes stage III cancers and the stage IV cancers that haven't spread to distant parts of the body, such as T4 tumors and cancers that have spread to nearby lymph nodes (N1).
  • Distant stage includes the rest of the stage IV cancers – all cancers that have spread to distant lymph nodes, bones, or other organs (M1).
 

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Do we now live in a world where we can trust nobody? Where there is no privacy?

The Sterling story is not that we found a bigot and dragged him to the gallows in the middle of the marketplace of ideas. The Sterling story is about how there is no more privacy. We live in a world where you can share your intimate photos with your lover, and they will wind up on a "revenge porn" website.

We live in a world where our intimate conversations will be recorded and blasted to billions of listeners. We live in a world where, say a gold digger can spy on her sugar daddy, and the world says that the creepy old guy is the bad guy.

Don't get me wrong. Sterling does seem to be a bad person. But sometimes the bad person is also the victim, and he stands in for us. As you applaud Stiviano for bringing the racist old man's views to light, consider if it were you speaking to a woman friend in what you thought was a private conversation.

Do we now live in a world where we can trust nobody? Where there is no privacy?

Interesting view from CNN.

Uno
 

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Funny how EVERYONE knew the guy was racist YET they all still decided to sign contract and play for him.

NBA ignored this as well.....until this tape.

NOW it's a big issue.

:biggrin:

From the people which are probably dudes living at home that would love to be able to screw his GF.
 

WaTaGuMp

Lifer
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I am watching this bitch on 20/20. She is so full of shit, its not even funny. Not to mention, she cant even speak proper English.
 

eng2d2

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I am watching this bitch on 20/20. She is so full of shit, its not even funny. Not to mention, she cant even speak proper English.

She is not making any sense. She tries to sound intelligent but she contradicts herself throughout the interview. WoW 0 intelligence.