L.A. chief: ?Inappropriate? police force at rally

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Sinsear


Anyone supporting this should have been arrested for aiding and abetting criminals.

Is that your vision of what American law enforcement is all about?
:moon:

It is for Mexico and what is good for the goose is good for the gander

Mexico's immigration law

Anyone who aids in illegal immigration is imprisoned.

Who's "aiding illegal immigration"? It's well within my rights as a citizen to lobby for the legal immigration of whoever I want, no what what YOU think about what they've done wrong.

People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: JD50
I think its just wonderful that some of you are so quick to judge the police here, but you could care less about the illegals that were attacking them. Absolutely disgusting. And some people wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes.

Are you kidding?

:shocked:

The vast majority in here are ready to lynch any and all immigrants and their supporters,
legal or not.

Many have expressed the belief that the Mayor is forcing the Chief of Police to put the blame on the cops in order to "appease immigrant supporters". :disgust:

What the heck thread have you been reading?

Do you understand the difference between the phrases "some of you" and "all of you"?

I just went to the first page, and it seems that the OP and Dealmonkey accurately fit my description, did you miss that part of the thread?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Arcex

Originally posted by: JD50
I think its just wonderful that some of you are so quick to judge the police here, but you could care less about the illegals that were attacking them. Absolutely disgusting. And some people wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes.

Clearly you are only reading the posts you agree with...

Lets start with your most pointless statement, "And some people wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes." Let me tell you a bit about it, there is a very different type of training taught at the Police Academy as opposed to what they are taught the minute they get on the streets. Like Arkaign said, most people who become cops don't do it for morally clean reasons, they do it because it is commonly known that cops are not held to the same level of right and wrong as ordinary civilans are, this is a common truth.

Sorry, but both you and Arkaign are FOS. I have not met one cop that fits your description. I'm sure there are some out there, but saying crap like that makes both of you look incredibly ignorant. I'm well aware of what is taught at an academy and what is taught on the streets BTW. People that blame the cops first and never give them the benefit of the doubt are why a lot of cops that I know have gotten a bad attitude, myself included. Where are you getting all of your FUD anyways?

The problem with being treated like you are better then everyone else is eventually you begin to believe it. The dirtiest cops are historically the ones who have a greater belief in the "Everyone who isn't a cop is either a criminal or a criminal who hasn't been caught yet" mentality. So you wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes? It's because they are trained to care about civilians less than their fellow cops.

You do understand that the whole point of the job is to enforce the laws that keep civilians safe right?

Next, do you honestly think people here support the illegals more than the cops? Cause that's insane, period. Am I happy about the number of illegals in this country? OF COURSE NOT! As I've stated in this thread numerous times, they flat out could not have rounded up every illegal in that crowd, to even try would have triggered a riot.

Again, see the first page of this thread, at least one person apparently does.

And speaking of illegals, even if we could round up every single illegal in this country and send them back to where they came from our economy would COLLAPSE. Illegals hold MILLIONS of jobs that can't be filled because most Americans don't want them because they feel they are too good for manual labor, etc. this isn't opinion, it's a fact. We need to re-work the laws to make illegals WANT to become citizens, plain and simple.

While I agree that we cannot ship every single one of them home tomorrow, the part that I put in bold is absolute BS. Those jobs could be filled, just probably at higher wages. Now if what you say is a fact I'd love to see something that states that it is actually a fact, I'm not sure how that is even possible but go ahead and give it your best shot.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

There is an obvious difference between illegal aliens and jaywalkers....

But no you aren't "just as guilty" and its even pointless to report them, unless they are committing a major crime or you have a very large group of them, nothing will be done about it.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

Jaywalking? LMAO, right, coming here illegally is in the same league as jaywalking to people with your mindset. Now, if some is driving very dangeroulsy you can bet your sweet ass I'll report them!!

And for reporting illegals, just give us a number that people can call to report them and you'd have to hire a million people to answer the phone.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

Jaywalking? LMAO, right, coming here illegally is in the same league as jaywalking to people with your mindset. Now, if some is driving very dangeroulsy you can bet your sweet ass I'll report them!!

And for reporting illegals, just give us a number that people can call to report them and you'd have to hire a million people to answer the phone.

Hmmm, maybe we could get rid of a couple of my neighbors...either for being illegals, or for harboring...:roll:

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: flavio

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: flavio
You guys are blind to the fact that there was premeditated attack on a peaceful rally which is ignoring the right to assemble.

Illegals shouldn't have the right to do a damn thing but gtfo of the country.

Oh point me to where it says everyone at the rally were illegals....or even the vast majority? Go ahead now.

If they are provoking the police it doen't matter if they're illegal or legal.

Now, where's the link that proves it was, as you claim, a premediated attack? :laugh:

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: feralkid

Originally posted by: Sinsear


Anyone supporting this should have been arrested for aiding and abetting criminals.

Is that your vision of what American law enforcement is all about?
:moon:

It is for Mexico and what is good for the goose is good for the gander

Mexico's immigration law

Anyone who aids in illegal immigration is imprisoned.

Thanks for answering for Sinsear.
Is it o.k. with you if I borrow his car?
:laugh:

If you only want an answer form Sinsear, then take it to PM, otherwise quit whining.

 

[Arcex]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Arcex

Originally posted by: JD50
I think its just wonderful that some of you are so quick to judge the police here, but you could care less about the illegals that were attacking them. Absolutely disgusting. And some people wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes.

Clearly you are only reading the posts you agree with...

Lets start with your most pointless statement, "And some people wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes." Let me tell you a bit about it, there is a very different type of training taught at the Police Academy as opposed to what they are taught the minute they get on the streets. Like Arkaign said, most people who become cops don't do it for morally clean reasons, they do it because it is commonly known that cops are not held to the same level of right and wrong as ordinary civilans are, this is a common truth.

Sorry, but both you and Arkaign are FOS. I have not met one cop that fits your description. I'm sure there are some out there, but saying crap like that makes both of you look incredibly ignorant. I'm well aware of what is taught at an academy and what is taught on the streets BTW. People that blame the cops first and never give them the benefit of the doubt are why a lot of cops that I know have gotten a bad attitude, myself included. Where are you getting all of your FUD anyways?

The problem with being treated like you are better then everyone else is eventually you begin to believe it. The dirtiest cops are historically the ones who have a greater belief in the "Everyone who isn't a cop is either a criminal or a criminal who hasn't been caught yet" mentality. So you wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes? It's because they are trained to care about civilians less than their fellow cops.

You do understand that the whole point of the job is to enforce the laws that keep civilians safe right?

Next, do you honestly think people here support the illegals more than the cops? Cause that's insane, period. Am I happy about the number of illegals in this country? OF COURSE NOT! As I've stated in this thread numerous times, they flat out could not have rounded up every illegal in that crowd, to even try would have triggered a riot.

Again, see the first page of this thread, at least one person apparently does.

And speaking of illegals, even if we could round up every single illegal in this country and send them back to where they came from our economy would COLLAPSE. Illegals hold MILLIONS of jobs that can't be filled because most Americans don't want them because they feel they are too good for manual labor, etc. this isn't opinion, it's a fact. We need to re-work the laws to make illegals WANT to become citizens, plain and simple.

While I agree that we cannot ship every single one of them home tomorrow, the part that I put in bold is absolute BS. Those jobs could be filled, just probably at higher wages. Now if what you say is a fact I'd love to see something that states that it is actually a fact, I'm not sure how that is even possible but go ahead and give it your best shot.

You've never met a dirty cop, or a cop with ambiguous morals? Cause statistically that's almost impossible. But if you truly never have then good for you, you're lucky. I'm sure the majority of people have at least 1 story of a cop acting in a less than appropriate manner.

You think I don't know what a police officers stated goal is? Of course I do, I also know that many cops have a rather skewed idea of their purpose on the streets.

And that's a pretty backwards argument for the jobs Americans don't want, they'd only take them if they get paid more? Well duh, if people got paid a buttload of cash for a menial labor job then more people would go after them, but that's not what the jobs pay so if Americans don't want those low wage jobs there will always be someone else who will take it.

 

[SoylentG]

Ok, if you notice, all of the press were in the middle of the group of police, who were telling people to move. So...


Police Police Police Individuals being dispersed
Police Reporter Police Individuals being dispersed
Police Police Police Individuals being dispersed

So the press are above the police? The police are dispersing a rally in which there was violence occuring... And the press aren't moving with the people? What a shame, the press are doing exactly what they're being ordered to by those policemen...Wait.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

I have reported reckless drivers on the highway in the past and would do so again; and if I come across someone who I know for a fact is illegal you can bet your ass I will call the nearest INS office.

There is a big difference between jaywalking and an invasion of our country.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

I have reported reckless drivers on the highway in the past and would do so again; and if I come across someone who I know for a fact is illegal you can bet your ass I will call the nearest INS office.

There is a big difference between jaywalking and an invasion of our country.

And there is a big difference between living here in violating of immigration laws and "invasion".

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

I have reported reckless drivers on the highway in the past and would do so again; and if I come across someone who I know for a fact is illegal you can bet your ass I will call the nearest INS office.

There is a big difference between jaywalking and an invasion of our country.

And there is a big difference between living here in violating of immigration laws and "invasion".

So you say; How many illegals are here again? 12-13million? Sounds like an invasion to me.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Arcex

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Arcex

Originally posted by: JD50
I think its just wonderful that some of you are so quick to judge the police here, but you could care less about the illegals that were attacking them. Absolutely disgusting. And some people wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes.

Clearly you are only reading the posts you agree with...

Lets start with your most pointless statement, "And some people wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes." Let me tell you a bit about it, there is a very different type of training taught at the Police Academy as opposed to what they are taught the minute they get on the streets. Like Arkaign said, most people who become cops don't do it for morally clean reasons, they do it because it is commonly known that cops are not held to the same level of right and wrong as ordinary civilans are, this is a common truth.

Sorry, but both you and Arkaign are FOS. I have not met one cop that fits your description. I'm sure there are some out there, but saying crap like that makes both of you look incredibly ignorant. I'm well aware of what is taught at an academy and what is taught on the streets BTW. People that blame the cops first and never give them the benefit of the doubt are why a lot of cops that I know have gotten a bad attitude, myself included. Where are you getting all of your FUD anyways?

The problem with being treated like you are better then everyone else is eventually you begin to believe it. The dirtiest cops are historically the ones who have a greater belief in the "Everyone who isn't a cop is either a criminal or a criminal who hasn't been caught yet" mentality. So you wonder why a lot of cops have bad attitudes? It's because they are trained to care about civilians less than their fellow cops.

You do understand that the whole point of the job is to enforce the laws that keep civilians safe right?

Next, do you honestly think people here support the illegals more than the cops? Cause that's insane, period. Am I happy about the number of illegals in this country? OF COURSE NOT! As I've stated in this thread numerous times, they flat out could not have rounded up every illegal in that crowd, to even try would have triggered a riot.

Again, see the first page of this thread, at least one person apparently does.

And speaking of illegals, even if we could round up every single illegal in this country and send them back to where they came from our economy would COLLAPSE. Illegals hold MILLIONS of jobs that can't be filled because most Americans don't want them because they feel they are too good for manual labor, etc. this isn't opinion, it's a fact. We need to re-work the laws to make illegals WANT to become citizens, plain and simple.

While I agree that we cannot ship every single one of them home tomorrow, the part that I put in bold is absolute BS. Those jobs could be filled, just probably at higher wages. Now if what you say is a fact I'd love to see something that states that it is actually a fact, I'm not sure how that is even possible but go ahead and give it your best shot.

You've never met a dirty cop, or a cop with ambiguous morals? Cause statistically that's almost impossible. But if you truly never have then good for you, you're lucky. I'm sure the majority of people have at least 1 story of a cop acting in a less than appropriate manner.

You think I don't know what a police officers stated goal is? Of course I do, I also know that many cops have a rather skewed idea of their purpose on the streets.

And that's a pretty backwards argument for the jobs Americans don't want, they'd only take them if they get paid more? Well duh, if people got paid a buttload of cash for a menial labor job then more people would go after them, but that's not what the jobs pay so if Americans don't want those low wage jobs there will always be someone else who will take it.

No, I have never met a dirty cop, or one that " most people who become cops don't do it for morally clean reasons, they do it because it is commonly known that cops are not held to the same level of right and wrong as ordinary civilans are, this is a common truth." You would first need to provide some statistics for that to be "statistically impossible". Also, you probably wouldn't have a hard time finding someone that has a "story" about a cop acting in a less than appropriate manner, people love to b1tch about the Police. But, the majority of the time the people that see this "innapropriate manner" don't know what the hell they are talking about and they take a 5 second snapshot of much larger situation, taking things completely out of context.

Again, where are you getting all of your FUD? You keep saying things like they are fact but you are presenting absolutely no proof. Saying things like "Cause statistically that's almost impossible" and "I'm sure the majority of people have at least 1 story of a cop acting in a less than appropriate manner." is just making you look dishonest. Where are you getting all of this information and do you have a background in law enforcement?

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

I have reported reckless drivers on the highway in the past and would do so again; and if I come across someone who I know for a fact is illegal you can bet your ass I will call the nearest INS office.

There is a big difference between jaywalking and an invasion of our country.

And there is a big difference between living here in violating of immigration laws and "invasion".

What would you call millions of people flooding across our border if you don't consider it an invasion? Not being a smartass just curious.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Sinsear

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Sinsear


People can lobby for whatever they please. However if you know someone is illegal you should be reporting them to the INS; it is your responsibility as a citizen. If you don't you are just as guilty when that illegal commits a crime or sucks up legal citizens tax dollars for free health care, tuition, and dropping anchor babies.

HAHAHAhahahah

Do you report every speeder on the road? Do you report to the police every time someone jaywalks? If you don't, then you are guilty too.

I have reported reckless drivers on the highway in the past and would do so again; and if I come across someone who I know for a fact is illegal you can bet your ass I will call the nearest INS office.

There is a big difference between jaywalking and an invasion of our country.

And there is a big difference between living here in violating of immigration laws and "invasion".

What would you call millions of people flooding across our border if you don't consider it an invasion? Not being a smartass just curious.

Democrat party base?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: JD50
What would you call millions of people flooding across our border if you don't consider it an invasion? Not being a smartass just curious.

New voters for the Democratic Party. They're a majority now. If not, import more, rinse, repeat until Republicans are a permanent minority.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: JD50
What would you call millions of people flooding across our border if you don't consider it an invasion? Not being a smartass just curious.

New voters for the Democratic Party. They're a majority now. If not, import more, rinse, repeat until Republicans are a permanent minority.

LOL, yep. Too bad the Republicans don't have the guts to stand up against this, they are too afraid of offending anyone and losing more votes. I think if we had someone with a strong stance against illegal immigration they would do very well in the poles, too bad both parties are full of pu$$ies.

 

[Jaskalas]

Just imagine if their communities average 4 kids. That's a double in their LEGAL population every generation. So let's say 20million here now x 2 x2 generations... maybe 50 years from now. That's 80 million "minority" voters whose parents and grandparents were discriminated against by big bad Republicans. 80 million in not 1 more soul crosses our border ever again. Of course that number will be higher because they continue to flood in.

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: JD50
What would you call millions of people flooding across our border if you don't consider it an invasion? Not being a smartass just curious.

New voters for the Democratic Party. They're a majority now. If not, import more, rinse, repeat until Republicans are a permanent minority.

LOL, yep. Too bad the Republicans don't have the guts to stand up against this, they are too afraid of offending anyone and losing more votes. I think if we had someone with a strong stance against illegal immigration they would do very well in the poles, too bad both parties are full of pu$$ies.

Yep; immigration is one of the big 3 issues for me in this next election (the other 2 being health care and iraq).

 

[Sinsear]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Just imagine if their communities average 4 kids. That's a double in their LEGAL population every generation. So let's say 20million here now x 2 x2 generations... maybe 50 years from now. That's 80 million "minority" voters whose parents and grandparents were discriminated against by big bad Republicans. 80 million in not 1 more soul crosses our border ever again. Of course that number will be higher because they continue to flood in.

They'll probably try to round us up and send us to mexico

 

[Socio]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Just imagine if their communities average 4 kids. That's a double in their LEGAL population every generation. So let's say 20million here now x 2 x2 generations... maybe 50 years from now. That's 80 million "minority" voters whose parents and grandparents were discriminated against by big bad Republicans. 80 million in not 1 more soul crosses our border ever again. Of course that number will be higher because they continue to flood in.

4 kids uh no try again, large families are measure of a mans virility and a badge of pride in the Hispanic culture. The more children a man has the better man he is among his peers, so it is not uncommon at all for them to have 8-12 children.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Just imagine if their communities average 4 kids. That's a double in their LEGAL population every generation. So let's say 20million here now x 2 x2 generations... maybe 50 years from now. That's 80 million "minority" voters whose parents and grandparents were discriminated against by big bad Republicans. 80 million in not 1 more soul crosses our border ever again. Of course that number will be higher because they continue to flood in.

4 kids uh no try again, large families are measure of a mans virility and a badge of pride in the Hispanic culture. The more children a man has the better man he is among his peers, so it is not uncommon at all for them to have 8-12 children.

They're catholic, they use the rythme method of birth control, which doesn't work too well. My mother-in-law is catholic and they had 10 healthy kids and 3 miscarriages. My wife had a sibling in the grade above her, one in the grade after her, and one in the same class she was in. That's pretty hard to do even if your trying.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Socio

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
[They think that from Texas across to the Pacific belong to them.

Yes and there is a growing movement to take that land back and it is even embraced by some Hispanic elected officials in the US. This is a 3 min video on the subject and one of a protests here is the US is the back drop.

Video

I recieved this in an email and thought it was worth sharing, especially after watching the video in the link above.

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin.
....But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. ...We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt