KY tries to require prescription for psuedofed

[Phokus]

We also have a meth problem

That explains a lot actually

(don't care if someone made this joke already)

 

[Darwin333]

If he took the test while high than it likely hadn't metabolized through his system yet.

You missed the "as well as a daily user". According to him he had been smoking it for over a month and was hoping the real stuff he smoked before was out of his system.

 

[Darwin333]

It's synthetic THC, similar but not the same and does not get caught by any current drug tests.

That's why Spice, K2, etc are pretty popular with people who get randomly tested...like cops.

Exactly the point I was trying to make, no one would pay the premium over the real thing if it didn't have the added benefit of not being detected on drug screens.

 

[ShawnD1]

Yeah, this is probably TMI on some levels. Anyhow, screw meth. Why cant people smoke some herb and chill if they want an escape, why get all complicated and life ruining. Too much hassle for a old toker like me.

It's just my personal experience, but I haven't really seen anyone destroyed by drugs. What I have seen is a lot of people who are destroyed then turn to drugs. Friends from middle school drop out then somehow turn into stoners with dead end jobs. A few people from elementary that I reconnected with on facebook seem like they drink too much; not like they need alcohol to get through the day but I mean their whole social life revolves around drinking. I know 1 guy who was into meth but he stopped doing that and now he's a stoner with a dead end job (still an improvement :thumbsup: )

I can't really say I've seen anyone start taking drugs while they are successful then become less successful, but that's just my experience.

Have you ever seen that show Intervention? What I thought was interesting about every single episode so far is that the drug abuse problems were always associated with serious psychological problems. One in particular that got to me was the soldier with post traumatic stress disorder (shell shock) who became an alcoholic. The whole show was about them trying to get him to stop drinking but they never seemed to address the underlying problem.

 

[xj0hnx]

Bans can work if the main element of the supply has to come from a giant factory somewhere that can be regulated.
If people are synthesizing tiny amounts for big costs and risk meth becomes unprofitable to create/distribute. This is why we do not see Quaaludes anymore. (there was only 1 factory in the world that made the chemical for it -once the DEA cut off the gangsters from buying the base component Quaaludes became literally a memory of the past)

Quaaludes disappeared because they stopped making them in the US, and then the Mexican companies stopped making them because there were much better benzos becoming available and nobody cared anymore. They are still made to this day, and widely used in other countries.

 

[xj0hnx]

You missed the "as well as a daily user". According to him he had been smoking it for over a month and was hoping the real stuff he smoked before was out of his system.

Yea, didn't seem to catch that part :\

 

[xj0hnx]

It's just my personal experience, but I haven't really seen anyone destroyed by drugs. What I have seen is a lot of people who are destroyed then turn to drugs. Friends from middle school drop out then somehow turn into stoners with dead end jobs. A few people from elementary that I reconnected with on facebook seem like they drink too much; not like they need alcohol to get through the day but I mean their whole social life revolves around drinking. I know 1 guy who was into meth but he stopped doing that and now he's a stoner with a dead end job (still an improvement :thumbsup: )

I can't really say I've seen anyone start taking drugs while they are successful then become less successful, but that's just my experience.

Have you ever seen that show Intervention? What I thought was interesting about every single episode so far is that the drug abuse problems were always associated with serious psychological problems. One in particular that got to me was the soldier with post traumatic stress disorder (shell shock) who became an alcoholic. The whole show was about them trying to get him to stop drinking but they never seemed to address the underlying problem.

One of my former employers wrecked the company snorting and drinking all our profits. He was going through about 2 8th's of coke, and however much top shelf he could drink in a night. For the most part though you are right on, lots of people turn to booze, or drugs due to an underlying problem, and that problem never gets treated, especially with how we deal with drugs as a society nowadays.

 

[Steeplerot]

It's just my personal experience, but I haven't really seen anyone destroyed by drugs.

I have worked in music/nightclub/bar industry for 20 something years. These folks tend to glorify drugs, I could get into why different types of people go through the downfalls based on their past when they get to the city for hours.

Younger folks I think are not as inclined to go for speed and H anymore, in the city at least. Usually the older white suburban folks seem to be into the meth nowadays. (or at least thats the folks wandering around my neighborhood like zombies all night talking really fast to pigeons and bus stop poles) Kids like the coke at parties and maybe some shrooms. Molly is big also, but has died down some as there was a recent rash of poisonings/ODs at a huge rave.

 

[Steeplerot]

One of my former employers wrecked the company snorting and drinking all our profits. He was going through about 2 8th's of coke, and however much top shelf he could drink in a night. For the most part though you are right on, lots of people turn to booze, or drugs due to an underlying problem, and that problem never gets treated, especially with how we deal with drugs as a society nowadays.

A promoter/manager doing coke will ruin a business/nightclub faster then white lighting off a blacksnake's ass. I have seen this too many times to count. One year dude is a millionaire, next year he is bumming money off me asking to hit my couch. It's a damn shame. Some people get eaten up by their own egos, and coke multiplies this while costing a shitload to feed the social ego thing which usually includes lots of friends who want in on your supply also.

Lonely egotistical people who get into coke have a locator device on them I swear for what I call "bagchasers" -socialites always out 24/7 looking to do other peoples coke until the person is drained, then they move on leaving the person's life destroyed, or the person becomes one of the bagchasers themselves until they hit bottom. (which is different for everyone)

 

[zsdersw]

Bans can work if the main element of the supply has to come from a giant factory somewhere that can be regulated.

.. which doesn't apply here, because it's not the situation.