Kurt Cobain - Why all the fuss?

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bandXtrb

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<< I've got a very open mind, make a point of logic and I'll agree with you. I just don't what incredibly pain this man was in (he isn't a POW here) that justified him taking his own life. Ultimately I really don't care, I don't even particularly like the music, but I also don't understand how you can't say it was the sissy way out. He left life knowing what a burden his death would be on his family, specifically his child. Rather than working through his problem or seeing a doctor for his tummy ache he shoots up and shoots himself. To me, that seems like the easy way out, he did it so he didn't have to deal with anything. Thats called quitting in my book, and I think its the candy ass thing to do when you've got a child. Then again if daddy's a heroine addict, perhaps its not a huge loss. >>


Yes, it does seem like you ultimately really don't care. You won't really understand unless you get to be in this same level of physical/emotional pain. BTW, from what I read, it wasn't a 'tummy ache,' but severe stomach pains. I don't know about what treatment he sought for it... what makes you think he didn't?

I don't know what to say about his drug use. It makes the situation more complicated. But I think I hear he used this to get relief from the intense physical/emotional pain he was suffering.

If he didn't want the kid, wouldn't it have been easier to just ditch them? It seems that it would have the same effect, but more gutless.

Killing oneself is probably the hardest descision to make. Our logic doesn't apply to this. When a person is depressed, options dissaper, and hope dissapears. The person sees no other solution to the situation, no way for it to get better.
Also, it is possible to ignore physical pain to some extent. When it is in the mind, there is nowhere else to turn.

What I'm trying to say is that suicide happens for very strong reasons, every moment is hell. Think about it, at the point putting the gun to his head, he was so tortured that he couldn't live one more second.

You should hope this never happens to you.
 

MDesigner

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Kurt Cobain didn't kill himself.

I really wish people would take some time to do some research rather than believing everything the media tells you. Courtney Love (whore/bitch/trash) had a MUTUAL friend of theirs kill Kurt. The buddy allegedly came over, offered Kurt a LOT of heroin to get him screwed up, then shot him. Why do you think there was no sign of struggling? Kurt trusted this person.

Go do some searches on the net. Or ask the detective who was on this case for a few years. Or rent the &quot;Kurt &amp; Courtney&quot; documentary video and watch that. It will open your eyes to how really evil and low Courtney is. She REPEATEDLY told people that she really needed to get rid of her &quot;old man&quot; (referring to Kurt). She wanted him dead, and she got her way, unfortunately. Kurt was so very very nice to her.. a really great guy, gave her everything and anything she wanted. And she just used him. Now the poor guy is dead, and everyone thinks it was suicide. A real shame...
 

SuperSix

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<< Try to have a little more of an open mind... >>

I've got a very open mind, make a point of logic and I'll agree with you. I just don't what incredibly pain this man was in (he isn't a POW here) that justified him taking his own life. Ultimately I really don't care, I don't even particularly like the music, but I also don't understand how you can't say it was the sissy way out. He left life knowing what a burden his death would be on his family, specifically his child. Rather than working through his problem or seeing a doctor for his tummy ache he shoots up and shoots himself. To me, that seems like the easy way out, he did it so he didn't have to deal with anything. Thats called quitting in my book, and I think its the candy ass thing to do when you've got a child. Then again if daddy's a heroine addict, perhaps its not a huge loss.
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HEAR HEAR!!

What was his mighty sacrifice? Wha was SO bad that he had to abandon a child? Millions of people go through worse physical and emotional stages every day, and don't chose to kill themselves.

But as Soybomb said, it's not a huge loss, and maybe his daughter is better off. Now, if we can only get rid of the loser wife...
 

bandXtrb

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Millions of people go through worse physical and emotional stages every day, and don't chose to kill themselves.

The stages come and go.. for a depressed or terminally sick person, it is 24/7 pain and misery, with no chance at getting better.
 

Viper GTS

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[The stages come and go.. for a depressed or terminally sick person, it is 24/7 pain and misery, with no chance at getting better.

That is very, very true. When I was prescribed an anti-depressant, the first time I felt happy was a shock. It took ~3 weeks before the med started making a difference, but I vividly remember the first time I remember being happy for no reason.

Then I promptly quit taking the medicine.

:eek:

Viper GTS
 

Deeko

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<< Who are you to say he doesn't deserve it? You are not any type of expert regarding music or the music culture.
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I never said he didnt, ass. If you had actually read my post, just maybe you would have noticed that. Maybe. I dunno, you guys have trouble with that sometimes...&quot;selective reading&quot; I've dubbed it. And who are you to judge whether or not I am an expert of music culture? Just cause I don't listen to the same sh!t as you guys?
 

monto

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<< Isn't he like the father of the alternative genre or something? Wasn't he also a drug king? He must be cool or something then...:confused: >>

must be, lol