Krokodil has shown up in Arizona *Update* It's in Illinois

[Ricky Spanish]

Time to thin out the population it seems.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I think some heroin users are victims of Krokodile. One report from a woman says she thought she was buying Heroine. That's some fucked up shit for a seller to slip someone krokodile..

And what is the life expectancy and from how much use? One high = 2-3yrs then user is dead?

 

[GagHalfrunt]

That's some fucked up shit for a seller to slip someone krokodile..

Yeah, if you can't trust a drug dealer who can you trust?

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Yeah, if you can't trust a drug dealer who can you trust?

Yeah, cause they are just the most honest of people 😀

*apoligetic voice* Oh, my bad. I'm soooo sorry. I didn't know there was a crocodile in there. Geeezzzus

 

[Ns1]

Yeah, cause they are just the most honest of people 😀

I know it's hard to believe, but high-end drug dealers have reputations to maintain. If you deal with low-lives then you get what you get ^_^

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

I know it's hard to believe, but high-end drug dealers have reputations to maintain. If you deal with low-lives then you get what you get ^_^

Gotta maintain the status!

lol

 

[WilliamM2]

Throw illegal drugs out the window for a second. Would you agree that there is a difference between someone who likes to go home with a bottle of whiskey after a long day at work and have a few drinks and someone who robs a liquor store for booze or breaks into someone's home to get money for booze?

Of course there is a difference between someone that earns the money to buy booze, and someone who steals to get it. And the one who is willing to rob a liquor store, or enter someone's home should be locked up.

If you're pulled over and the police officer notices you have a six pack of beer in the car, should you be locked up with violent offenders?

Only if you are drinking it at the time, I have no sympathy for drunk driving. If your point is that drugs should be legal like booze, I agree. Still wouldn't help much with addicts.

 

[Doppel]

I think some heroin users are victims of Krokodile. One report from a woman says she thought she was buying Heroine. That's some fucked up shit for a seller to slip someone krokodile..

And what is the life expectancy and from how much use? One high = 2-3yrs then user is dead?

true, but she also said in the dailymail article that it was way cheaper, so maybe she should have wondered how her regular guy was giving such a discount.

 

[mmntech]

Yeah, if you can't trust a drug dealer who can you trust?

They prefer to be called undocumented pharmacists. :sneaky:

true, but she also said in the dailymail article that it was way cheaper, so maybe she should have wondered how her regular guy was giving such a discount.

Probably already been mentioned, but I read that it's currently going for a street price of $8 a hit, versus over $20 for heroine. I wouldn't be surprised if dealers were claiming it was heroine when there's double the potential profit to be made. Codine may be hard to get over the counter in the US but why not just smuggle it in like everything else.

 

[Jodell88]

They prefer to be called undocumented pharmacists. :sneaky:

Street pharmacists.

 

[xj0hnx]

You ignore that many of them are violent criminals.

And yet many, many more are not.

 

[BUTCH1]

Who and why would any use it.

It has a narcotic component (codeine) and it's much cheaper than heroin.

 

[BUTCH1]

You ignore that many of them are violent criminals.

My little brother is in prison right now, and has been off and on for last 20 years. He's "successfully" completed treatment several times, and he'd still have no issue robbing your house or beating the shit out of you for his next oxy fix. Luckily he's usually so messed up his victims don't suffer any real damage, and he's easily caught.

He could enter a metadone or suboxone treatment center, relives the jonesing for the opiate but without much of a high..

 

[xj0hnx]

Ice, Shatter, Glass, Crank etc, many names for Crystal Meth

Technically crank is not ice, it's an older, dirtier, less pure form of meth that you hardly ever see anymore unless you are buying from some home cook making small batches.

I agree about legalizing them, but they will never be free. And most addicts don't work, so they will still need to commit crimes for drugs, food, shelter (at least here in the snow), or anything else they feel they need.

Reading your post, you are pretty ignorant, and seem to be basing your opinions about hundreds of thousands of people based on your fucked up criminal brother. Fact is that the homeless junkies you see in the streets are just a small percentage of addicts out there. There are many times more people holding down jobs, making rent/mortgage, car payments, etc ...and they literally come from every profession, and every social class.

Gotta maintain the status!

lol

Repeat customers are a good dealers bread and butter.

The whole "I thought I was buying heroin" story sounds like bullshit to me, desomorphine is not as strong as the equivalent amount of heroin, more of a pain in the ass to make/get, and point for point $10 worth of H is going to be better than $8 worth of "stole moms Tylenol 3's and make the KrokodilzZzz!!!

Could possibly be a fear campaign to make users worried that they might be getting krokodil instead of heroin.

 

[WilliamM2]

Reading your post, you are pretty ignorant, and seem to be basing your opinions about hundreds of thousands of people based on your fucked up criminal brother. Fact is that the homeless junkies you see in the streets are just a small percentage of addicts out there. There are many times more people holding down jobs, making rent/mortgage, car payments, etc ...and they literally come from every profession, and every social class.

I'm not basing it on just my brother. I'm basing it on every hardcore heroin and opiate user I've ever met. You know, the kind of person that would actually try Krocodil in the first place. If you think that's some upstanding citizen who pays his bills, owns his own home, holds down a good job, you're the one who's ignorant.

 

[xj0hnx]

I'm not basing it on just my brother. I'm basing it on every hardcore heroin and opiate user I've ever met. You know, the kind of person that would actually try Krocodil in the first place. If you think that's some upstanding citizen who pays his bills, owns his own home, holds down a good job, you're the one who's ignorant.

Don't know, or care who you've meet, your handful of junkies doesn't scratch the surface of the issue across the nation.

 

[Colt45]

I imagine a good portion of the krokodil hype is just that. Certainly ain't gasoline in it unless you mixed it up two minutes before you used it.

I thought junk was dirt cheap as it was, not sure how much savings there is.

 

[onza]

Not sure if this has been mentioned already but VICE (youtube) has done a video on the very same topic, go watch it because it was interesting

 

[SlowSpyder]

I'm not basing it on just my brother. I'm basing it on every hardcore heroin and opiate user I've ever met. You know, the kind of person that would actually try Krocodil in the first place. If you think that's some upstanding citizen who pays his bills, owns his own home, holds down a good job, you're the one who's ignorant.

And on the flip side of the coin I know plenty of people who use recreational drugs quite regularly. Functional addicts that hold down jobs and are productive members of society. In fact I believe that is far more the norm than people like your brother.

If someone is willing to commit a violent crime or steal someone else's property to get drugs, then that person probably should be locked up. But I feel that is the very small minority of recreational drug users.

 

[Vdubchaos]

And on the flip side of the coin I know plenty of people who use recreational drugs quite regularly. Functional addicts that hold down jobs and are productive members of society. In fact I believe that is far more the norm than people like your brother.

recreational Heroin usage? And hold a job/productive member of society?

Not sure if serious.

If someone is willing to commit a violent crime or steal someone else's property to get drugs, then that person probably should be locked up. But I feel that is the very small minority of recreational drug users.

Once you go past weed, I don't believe many of these hard core drugs allow too many to be "recreational users".

I'm sorry

 

[PricklyPete]

recreational Heroin usage? And hold a job/productive member of society?

Not sure if serious.



Once you go past weed, I don't believe many of these hard core drugs allow too many to be "recreational users".

I'm sorry

There is a LOT of recreational cocaine usage. I will agree that it is not the case for heroin/meth/etc... But plenty if people work fulltime jobs and lines of cocaine.

 

[SlowSpyder]

recreational Heroin usage? And hold a job/productive member of society?

Not sure if serious.



Once you go past weed, I don't believe many of these hard core drugs allow too many to be "recreational users".

I'm sorry

I know a couple hardcore opiate users that hold down jobs. A friend's brother puts 60mg of oxy up his nose multiple times a day. He's a mechanic and owns his own business. Should he go to prison because he likes the opiate buzz without hurting anyone else and is harming his sinuses?

What's "past weed"? Alcohol is far more addictive. Tobacco is far more addictive. Caffeine is more addictive. Tylenol is likely more harmful.

 

[WilliamM2]

I know a couple hardcore opiate users that hold down jobs. A friend's brother puts 60mg of oxy up his nose multiple times a day. He's a mechanic and owns his own business. Should he go to prison because he likes the opiate buzz without hurting anyone else and is harming his sinuses?

I've known a some who held jobs and owned businesses too, but in every case, it eventually progressed to the point where they lost everything. Usually only takes a year or two. But if you think you can handle recreational heroin use or 60mg of oxy a day, have at it.

And good luck

 

[Vdubchaos]

I know a couple hardcore opiate users that hold down jobs. A friend's brother puts 60mg of oxy up his nose multiple times a day. He's a mechanic and owns his own business. Should he go to prison because he likes the opiate buzz without hurting anyone else and is harming his sinuses?

I don't think he should, no but above is not very often the case.

Also it depends on what stage of the addiction the person is at. he might be at beginning stages.

Just a matter of time before his life tumbles IMO.

What's "past weed"? Alcohol is far more addictive. Tobacco is far more addictive. Caffeine is more addictive. Tylenol is likely more harmful.

Outside of Alcohol, I don't believe any of the above really cause too much harm or effect people life to an EXTREME

 

[Vdubchaos]

There is a LOT of recreational cocaine usage. I will agree that it is not the case for heroin/meth/etc... But plenty if people work fulltime jobs and lines of cocaine.

Recreational?

Define that for me.

If it's DAILY, that's not recreational and I have NEVER met a person that did cocaine "from time to time".

Sure there is plenty of people that work full time jobs and do cocaine (I've seen plenty of it) but in most cases, it's just a matter of time before the addiction takes over your life and effects it.

Cocaine is a EXTREMELY addictive and dangerous drug. it not only harms the user, but also effects and harms everyone AROUND the user.......at some point.

Just a matter of time....