Krill Oil Caps...the better oil supplement??

[IGBT]

Is anybody using Krill 1000mg caps? If so have you noticed any improvement overall??

 

[deadlyapp]

It's not really any different than any other fish oil that has a good mix of EPA and DHA, other than it may absorb better. 1000mg Krill vs 1500mg Fish Oil is probably nearly identical in terms of fatty acid uptake.

I personally take fish oil but I can't say I've ever felt any different when I've taken it vs when I haven't.

 

[killster1]

i eat fish 2 or 3 times a week and take 1000mg glucosamine sometimes twice a day but always at night before bed with ZMA. my joints feel great.

 

[Muse]

It's not really any different than any other fish oil that has a good mix of EPA and DHA, other than it may absorb better. 1000mg Krill vs 1500mg Fish Oil is probably nearly identical in terms of fatty acid uptake.

I personally take fish oil but I can't say I've ever felt any different when I've taken it vs when I haven't.

I have mine in the fridge. Stopped taking it because I'd get that aftertaste some minutes/hours later that was unpleasant. At least sometimes. I started taking fish oil due to info about its health benefits, then saw on that TV doctors program, the one with several doctors, the head one being an emergency room specialist, that krill oil had the benefits without the fishy aftertaste and started taking it regularly (the stuff they sell at Costco). Some months, maybe years later, don't remember, stopped taking them. Not cheap, I have them in the fridge, didn't throw out. Maybe should try again, dunno. Anyway, I'm in dang good health, don't seem to be apt to have a heart attack, stroke...

I never expect any supplement I take to make me feel better... well, I figure glucosamine is supposed to help with joint pain, I take that but don't know if it's helping or not, but take it anyway. Bone broth is said to have the same benefits as glucosamine, I've made that, but don't regularly, and not recently. Two glucosamine tabs daily is simple and repeatable. Again, relatively expensive. My cousin MD told me he takes the good stuff, don't know what that is.

 

[IGBT]

Animal studies (dogs / race horses) suggest glucosamine / condroiton work over time. Glucosamine may cause blood sugar problems with diabetics.

 

[Muse]

Animal studies (dogs / race horses) suggest glucosamine / condroiton work over time. Glucosamine may cause blood sugar problems with diabetics.

I had a brief conversation with a nutritionist concerning glucosamine. She said she doesn't take it, instead makes bone broth.

 

[deadlyapp]

I had a brief conversation with a nutritionist concerning glucosamine. She said she doesn't take it, instead makes bone broth.

Glucosamine, bone broth, collagen - all a means to an end which is improving joint health/connective tissue. I take collagen.

 

[Muse]

Glucosamine, bone broth, collagen - all a means to an end which is improving joint health/connective tissue. I take collagen.

I was unaware. I'm going to Costco in 2 days. They have a pretty vast selection of supplements and etc. Can you suggest something?

 

[deadlyapp]

I was unaware. I'm going to Costco in 2 days. They have a pretty vast selection of supplements and etc. Can you suggest something?

I've been taking the vital proteins collagen (either unflavored or chocolate) for a little while now - no idea how beneficial it is - its one of those things incredibly hard to quantify, but at $1 a serving (I use it as a "creamer" in my coffee) it's not expensive enough for me to be concerned. There's a whole range of bone broths usually available at Costco if you don't want to make your own. A lot of people just drink it, but you can also make excellent soups or even use it to cook grains like rice.

 

[Muse]

I've been taking the vital proteins collagen (either unflavored or chocolate) for a little while now - no idea how beneficial it is - its one of those things incredibly hard to quantify, but at $1 a serving (I use it as a "creamer" in my coffee) it's not expensive enough for me to be concerned. There's a whole range of bone broths usually available at Costco if you don't want to make your own. A lot of people just drink it, but you can also make excellent soups or even use it to cook grains like rice.

I have a ~5lb chicken in the freezer. I was cooking a chicken every other week for a couple months in my 6qt. Instant Pot Duo until a couple months ago. It was a novelty for me, hadn't cooked chicken for years. It was taking over my dinner, so stopped. Chicken this, chicken that. I was making bone broth and making soup or cooking rice with it. Even froze some, but it's long gone.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Is anybody using Krill 1000mg caps? If so have you noticed any improvement overall??

The only improvements people would notice, would be placebo based. Having tiny bit more EPA/DHA isn't going to perceptibly change anything.

 

[Muse]

The only improvements people would notice, would be placebo based. Having tiny bit more EPA/DHA isn't going to perceptibly change anything.

I've got about four 160 tab 500mg Kirkland (Costco) Krill "One per day" bottles in the fridge. Haven't taken any in over 2 years but figure whatever expiration factor it has would be fairly mitigated by refrigeration. Worth taking with my supplements (adult multi, 1000mg C, probiotics, D3, 2x glucosamine)?

 

[deadlyapp]

I've got about four 160 tab 500mg Kirkland (Costco) Krill "One per day" bottles in the fridge. Haven't taken any in over 2 years but figure whatever expiration factor it has would be fairly mitigated by refrigeration. Worth taking with my supplements (adult multi, 1000mg C, probiotics, D3, 2x glucosamine)?

Probably won't kill you. Any type of oil can go rancid over time, the refrigeration helps I'm sure. But if you're just tossing it down the hatch you probably wouldn't have any ill effects.

Supplements generally won't hurt you, but you can piss away your money (literally) if you take stuff over the amount your body can readily absorb or with nothing other than psychological/placebo benefits.

 

[mindless1]

Refrigeration definitely helps slow oil going rancid. So does freezing, even more.

Eat more salmon and seafood, less pork/beef/chicken/faux.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Used Krill Oil. Nothing life changing happened. Sometimes I think my body is just not designed to benefit from good stuff. Or it's just marketing BS that Krill Oil is better than the other oils.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Eat more salmon...

I don't understand how people enjoy this. John West Pink Salmon tastes like frickin' cat food. Grilled salmon isn't much better. Doesn't beat tuna in taste. Grouper also tastes sooooooo much better.

 

[igor_kavinski]

I've got about four 160 tab 500mg Kirkland (Costco) Krill "One per day" bottles in the fridge. Haven't taken any in over 2 years but figure whatever expiration factor it has would be fairly mitigated by refrigeration. Worth taking with my supplements (adult multi, 1000mg C, probiotics, D3, 2x glucosamine)?

Break one of the capsules and taste it. If the taste isn't off, by all means, better to use it than let it go to waste. Should help a lot in increasing D3's absorption when taken with it.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Used Krill Oil. Nothing life changing happened. Sometimes I think my body is just not designed to benefit from good stuff. Or it's just marketing BS that Krill Oil is better than the other oils.

There is nothing you should feel and the cardiovascular claims are a bust as well for fish oil (and thus Krill oil by extension).

Fish Oil Supplements are massively over-hyped. It's a billion dollar business built on hype and hot air:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/claims-that-fish-oil-boosts-health-linger-despite-science-saying-the-opposite/2015/07/08/db7567d2-1848-11e5-bd7f-4611a60dd8e5_story.html

In 2003, some of the researchers who conducted the early and influential DART study published the results of a follow-up. Of 3,000 Welsh men with angina — a chest pain caused by coronary heart disease — some were advised to eat oily fish or take fish oil supplements. This time, the fish group patients were more likely to die, and the researchers said it was particularly worse for those taking the fish oil pills.

“The excess risk [of cardiac death] was largely located among the subgroup given fish oil capsules,” they reported.

That finding didn’t stop the growth in sales of fish oil pills, however, even though the pages of the academic journals were filling with evidence that fish oil has no benefits.

IMO, one day "Fish Oil" will be interchangeable with "Snake Oil".

 

[igor_kavinski]

The problem is, scientists STILL don't understand what foods do to the body. They are spending BILLIONS on supercomputers simulating nuclear explosions and weather patterns but virtually nothing is being done to simulate the human body to understand how nutrients/toxins/drugs affect the complex chain of constant biochemical reactions.

 

[Heartbreaker]

The full human simulator is probably beyond our lifetime, regardless of funding.

Still better off following the current science than the supplement industry hype.

There seems to be a least one universal bit of healthy food advice proven again and again, that has pretty much universal agreement.

Eliminate or drastically curtail processed food. Beyond that you get into warring factions.

 

[Muse]

The full human simulator is probably beyond our lifetime, regardless of funding.

There seems to be a least one universal bit of healthy food advice proven again and again, that has pretty much universal agreement.

Eliminate or drastically curtail processed food. Beyond that you get into warring factions.

Easily said but it usually gets complicated.
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Processed foods defined

According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), processed food is defined as any raw agnricultural commodity that has been subject to washing, cleaning, milling, cutting, chopping, heating, pasteurizing, blanching, cooking, canning, freezing, drying, dehydrating, mixing, packaging or other procedures that alter the food from its natural state. This may include the addition of other ingredients to the food, such as preservatives, flavors, nutrients and other food additives or substances approved for use in food products, such as salt, sugars and fats. So, by definition, most times we engage in food preparation and cook, we are in fact processing foods.
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My awakening in the arena of policing what I eat began when I encountered an article in a magazine, maybe Mother Jones, don't recall which get down to the real nitty gritty one it was, it was ~50 years ago, entitled "Food Pollution." They spelled out info that seems to have stood the test of time concerning processed food: stuff they put in what you'll encounter in your American supermarket, and by extension in all but select restaurants, etc. Things you should have some take on when you read the labels, scan the ingredients. They talked about ingredients of concern, quite a variety, and on some labels what you see is very extensive and dizzying: extenders, emulsifiers, preservatives, food coloring, sugar, corn syrup, amount-of-sodium, etc. etc. I do read a lot of labels. I prefer simple to complex, try to stay away from items that contain certain suspect or known bad-for-you ingredients. I do make a lot of stuff from scratch. I eat almost no canned food, buy close to nothing already frozen, although my freezer's always pretty full (mostly fruit, nuts, meat, cheeses).

 

[deadlyapp]

I don't understand how people enjoy this. John West Pink Salmon tastes like frickin' cat food. Grilled salmon isn't much better. Doesn't beat tuna in taste. Grouper also tastes sooooooo much better.

Eat only wild salmon and simply season with lemon, garlic, some olive oil. Salmon when prepared well is fanastic. Don't overcook it.

Comparing canned anything to fresh (especially something like tuna against salmon) is simply :|

 

[Muse]

I know a couple people who are super into salmon. My sister gave me a bit which has sat in my freezer for maybe 15 years now. I'm afraid to touch it. I never buy salmon. In fact, I stopped buying fresh seafood of any kind maybe a couple decades ago or more. I used to get clams from the bay myself and make clam chowder, but hear they are contaminated now. I open a can of tuna maybe 3-4 times a year. I think talk about seafood pollution, the food chain kind of thing, caused me to develop a concern. Also, fish, well, it gets messy and there are bones to consider sometimes. And I never go fishing anymore either. Plus I hear that crustaceans aren't good for your heart. My sister likes seafood restaurants and I've gone with her, but myself I never think of going to one. I'll order seafood in Asian restaurants sometimes, but I don't eat out a lot.

 

[Heartbreaker]

Easily said but it usually gets complicated.
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Processed foods defined

According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), processed food is defined as any raw agnricultural commodity that has been subject to washing, cleaning, milling, cutting, chopping, heating, pasteurizing, blanching, cooking, canning, freezing, drying, dehydrating, mixing, packaging or other procedures that alter the food from its natural state. This may include the addition of other ingredients to the food, such as preservatives, flavors, nutrients and other food additives or substances approved for use in food products, such as salt, sugars and fats. So, by definition, most times we engage in food preparation and cook, we are in fact processing foods.
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My awakening in the arena of policing what I eat began when I encountered an article in a magazine, maybe Mother Jones, don't recall which get down to the real nitty gritty one it was, it was ~50 years ago, entitled "Food Pollution." They spelled out info that seems to have stood the test of time concerning processed food: stuff they put in what you'll encounter in your American supermarket, and by extension in all but select restaurants, etc. Things you should have some take on when you read the labels, scan the ingredients. They talked about ingredients of concern, quite a variety, and on some labels what you see is very extensive and dizzying: extenders, emulsifiers, preservatives, food coloring, sugar, corn syrup, amount-of-sodium, etc. etc. I do read a lot of labels. I prefer simple to complex, try to stay away from items that contain certain suspect or known bad-for-you ingredients. I do make a lot of stuff from scratch. I eat almost no canned food, buy close to nothing already frozen, although my freezer's always pretty full (mostly fruit, nuts, meat, cheeses).

If people want to quibble that everything this processed, tell them to stick with minimally processed foods.

Check the ingredient list. If there is only one ingredient, it's minimally processed.

 

[Torn Mind]

To my own detriment, I have hated most foods containing vitamin D. Fatty fishes, cheap eggs(Pasture raised eggs are the complete opposite, I love them and become a true predator), sunlight, even fortified foods like milk and orange juice....never liked them to consume them regularly back in a state of ignorance. I am left wondering that even though my sister also had not gone to the dentist for 15 years, she has nothing wrong while I got periodontitis, perhaps the sunlight helped..

I want to and have eaten wild sockeye salmon regularly but I can safely that to my own detriment, I still "hate" salmon. Sure, I could eventually grab a slab of wild sockeye just to give it a chance(expensive as fuck)., but its vanilla smooth taste is very close to digusting and repulsive.

With that said I can eat half a can a day of wild pink or red salmon regularly. But it is not an enjoyable meat. I find it makes me feel a little hangover although I have never drunk in my life to know a real hangover.

Mercury is okay with salmon, relatively speaking. Sardines have low concentrations as well.

Now, I do think the whole nutrient profile of certain fatty fish and shellfish is really fucking good but it may not be the omega 3s or the vitamin D, but the other chemicals present in real food not present in supplements. My COVID brain fog was vastly improved, possibly eliminated after eating a can.