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Kodiak Bear vs African Lion

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Gibsons said:
Insults? That's not very nice.

Bear beats lion, easy.

Everyone knows this.
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To capatalize in full swing of an insult...is an insult.

Nice contradicting your self, how can everyone know this; I'm sure the hundreds of people who were there of each and every account the lion killed the bear (over 10x's) arnt included in your ploralizing everyone...so cant that mean, or in other words cant I emit, to counter your gesture and say thousands of people know that a lion beats a bear; since I have the proof to back up my claims, and you havel; well...nothing but guesses from people who never seen anything similar or of its credentials?

You cant say everyone if I have a thousand...right?
 
Heh, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that an male alaskan brown bear would absolutely destroy a lion and a pissed off female would probably do the same.

Male kodiak bears are well over a thousand pounds whereas lions are lucky to hit 500. Not only that but Kodiak bears can stand. This is a huge advantage. Lions are on all fours so they have to rely on leaping attacks, a bear can stand on its hind legs and box a lion to death. A kodiak bear is so strong that I have little doubt it could crush a lions skull or snap the neck with a single blow. A lion would probably barely be able to perice a kodiak bears incredibly, inctedibly dense and thick fur and skin. And even if it did, the Kodiak bear has inches of fat directly below the skin, so the lion would have to be very lucky to be able to inflict a lethal blow.

Lions arent even the toughest cats btw. Given the same size cat, a tiger will always kill a lion in the fight. Because tigers are not pack animals and lions are. It makes a key difference in how they approach other animals. Lions fight to show dominance, for territory etc, so a lot of their attacks are non-lethal, Tigers only fight to kill so every attack is a lethal one. its in their nature.
 
futurefields said:
Heh, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that an male alaskan brown bear would absolutely destroy a lion and a pissed off female would probably do the same.

Male kodiak bears are well over a thousand pounds whereas lions are lucky to hit 500. Not only that but Kodiak bears can stand. This is a huge advantage. Lions are on all fours so they have to rely on leaping attacks, a bear can stand on its hind legs and box a lion to death. A kodiak bear is so strong that I have little doubt it could crush a lions skull or snap the neck with a single blow. A lion would probably barely be able to perice a kodiak bears incredibly, inctedibly dense and thick fur and skin. And even if it did, the Kodiak bear has inches of fat directly below the skin, so the lion would have to be very lucky to be able to inflict a lethal blow.

Lions arent even the toughest cats btw. Given the same size cat, a tiger will always kill a lion in the fight. Because tigers are not pack animals and lions are. It makes a key difference in how they approach other animals. Lions fight to show dominance, for territory etc, so a lot of their attacks are non-lethal, Tigers only fight to kill so every attack is a lethal one. its in their nature.
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Sorry but you are out-weighed already with the evidence brought forth on page 1...repeating what already has been adressed is abserd; since you stated nothing new, you brought evidence; nothing new, and you also brought nothing that I already knew"...notice the N then K?

lol

In fact you just stated exactly what I pre-assumed bias tunnel vision ignorant people do...go re-read what I posted then read again what you just blabbed out; and tell me that isint what exactly I just fore-seen.

Lions can get pretty dam big too, See my sig? Check out the link and scroll down to the Valhala lions, they can get as big as 800-1,000 pounds as well...but its senseless because it is out of the norm, not to mention that site decimates the world of who is the King of cats, the tiger dosent have 1/300th the sources to back up his claims. What your gesture is saying, is andre the giant will beat everyone in K-1 kick boxing; beat muhamid ali in regular boxing; man handle people like Cro-cop>>>Bob-sap in pride, and Ko guys like Brock lesnar; just because hes bigger? Nah...I would think his authritus would end him in a real fight before a Knock out flying kick would. Ha!

Everything you stated has been countered; yet you just hyped up the bear to sometype of superman level animal; yet in the wild, he gets bullied by wolves; ignorant is bliss, theres no sense in reposting what someone already stated...I dont wanna take no ones thunder since everyone is intitled to there own opinion, but as I stated; if your not going to bring anything that hasent already been adressed, or in other words show nothing new (With evidence proof) then; theres no point.
 
Wow, you just called me ignorant, presuming, biased, and a blabber mouth for saying the bear would win.

why are you so hostile?

anyways, im reporting you to the mods now.
 
Silver Prime said:
What your gesture is saying, is andre the giant will beat everyone in K-1 kick boxing; beat muhamid ali in regular boxing; man handle people like Cro-cop>>>Bob-sap in pride, and Ko guys like Brock lesnar; just because hes bigger? Nah...I would think his authritus would end him in a real fight before a Knock out flying kick would. Ha!
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Semmy Schilt is widely considered the greatest kickboxer of all time, in my opinion he is not nearly as skilled as people like Badr Hari and Tyrone Spong. It's his ability to use his gargantuan frame to keep his opponents out of their striking range.
 
They don't even need to send in the big bears!

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futurefields said:
Wow, you just called me ignorant, presuming, biased, and a blabber mouth for saying the bear would win.

why are you so hostile?

anyways, im reporting you to the mods now.
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lol I could say the same thing about your choosing of words twards animals; you sound a bit hostile and cruel as well, I'm not going to whine to the mods about that am I; but you dont see me playing that silly game do you?

I like bears as too, in fact I dont dis-like any animal, I merely requested some facts; or is the world where your from so gulible that they belive the same thing as long as theres a base riot that has people of agreement...in other words as long as there is people that favor what you like, its okay to cite and make up fictional means of evidence, and then resort in leaving an athority as in if it were facts; all 100% true?

Tough'n up your skin a bit buddie; it just seems as if you have no argument to counter-bate, so instead you will go through the douche bag route.

You should have thought through your post if you wasent expecting a down to earth reply...we are adults here.
 
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Soundmanred said:
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All hail Grammar and punctuation nazi...

Actung! Actung!

XD
 
Soundmanred said:
It's more fun to ignore him until he gets (another) ban.
He probably thinks a "Kodiak Bear" is a bear that is trained to use a camera.
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Nah its just more fun owning you the proper thread/debating way...with pure facts; anyone could be a crybaby like you, its actualy more dignifying to know when and If I do get banned...

Even with me gone, my voice will still be mind fucking you silly; yet you...hardly anyone will remember you but as the guy who was owned a 100 times.

XD
 
Silver Prime said:
Nah its just more fun owning you the proper thread/debating way...with pure facts; anyone could be a crybaby like you, its actualy more dignifying to know when and If I do get banned...

Even with me gone, my voice will still be mind fucking you silly; yet you...hardly anyone will remember you but as the guy who was owned a 100 times.

XD
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I don't get owned because I don't "debate" these idiotic X Vs Y matchups.
I laugh. That's all.
 
Nah you get owned.

Your multi posting is showing that you are cracking under pressure already; in other terms, I could report you for derailing threads...yet again, you dont see me playing that silly game do you?
 
Cerpin Taxt said:
It goes Tigers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bears > Lions.

Quod erat demonstrandum
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I actualy gave my opinion before about tiger vs bears, if its on average terms the tiger should win majority of the fights...

But if the bear kodiak/grizzly is in perfect prime condition a 800-1,000 pounder is too much for any tiger, the tiger is not well suited via has enough stamina to go multiple rounds; wont be able to last as long as the lion would (Durability factors) and would surcumb more times then vice versa.

So with the proper evidence, so far as it stands its quite the opposite...

Lions>Bears>Tigers

Until proven other wise, ergo an abundentcy of creditable evidence of quality and quanity.
 
FYI:

The California Golden Bear was about the same size as a Kodiak Bear, yet it went extinct, while the California Mountain Lion is still around. Tell you something, about which is more resilient.

So

Given African Lion >>>> Mountain Lion > Brown Bear
 
DCal430 said:
FYI:

The California Golden Bear was about the same size as a Kodiak Bear, yet it went extinct, while the California Mountain Lion is still around. Tell you something, about which is more resilient.

So

Given African Lion >>>> Mountain Lion > Brown Bear
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Thats intresting to note; the atlas bear too also went extinct from africa, most likely the direct cause like all animals going extinct is because of man, but I'm sure other things come into play.

Nature its self can literaly erase an entire population of any living thing by earth quakes, tsunamis, forest fires, floods, mountains falling apart ect, ect...also what she allows to co-exist is questionable as well.

I cant see any predator that is in direct competition against lions and are capable to steak out any claims on (average terms) as in a animal that will drive back the full potential of there speices capabilitys; for instance lions vs hyenas, 6 are most of the time afraid of confrontations with a single male lion, and the most males I've seen in a single pride was 9; plus 22 females, a single lion on fair grounds could compete with a bloodlusted amount of hyenas at best I'd say 4 to one in favor of the lion, so in terms a hyena clan against the full capacity of a lion pride of 30, you would need hyenas outnumbering lions of at-least 3 to 1 odds, so around 80 or so are needed to push back or win.

But hyena nor wolves get that high in a single packs/clans, so the title of King of the beast still remains to the lions, two lions to one bear odds is more than a match for any type of bear, and more than 3 to 1 is just over; kill let alone the pride.

There are a few documentarys of lions against the atlas bear in rome, the lions 1 on 1 were reported doing the job. I fail to see how cougars/pumas was able to win out in many cases against black and brown bears but if thats what so many sources reported I am inclined to go with facts;*big cats are already pound for pound one of if not the best predators on land; in combineing all the right attributes and statistics; I think its safe to say with the proper analysis, that lions do own up and carry there title well as the King of the Beast, in...

-Looks
-Feats
-Sociality
-Heraldry
-Action

The data suggest that, and there is more than a few different catagories that paten's it as well...regardless of anyone down scaling the lions minor lost's here and there, if we go by high end feats; the lion wins out in terms almost every catagorie there is. And as one stated on page one, in comparisons...

It aint even close. (Data wise)
 
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