ok, there are more than a few players in the NBA with much better numbers than Iverson...but here are a few of the most important things with him - Look at the number of shots he takes - there are at least 20 players in the league who would easily outscore him if they were allowed to take as many shots as he does - look at the 76'ers record this year without him in the lineup - they were better off without him.
"Practice?"
"How am I supposed to make my teammates better by practicing with them?"
"I'm a starter - I don't come off the bench"
Tim Duncan, in his first game back after sitting out two and half weeks with a mild knee injury, came off the bench - and he is 10X the player Iverson is.
Iverson is the poster boy for everything that is wrong with the NBA today, and pro sports in general. His play four years ago was among the best in the leauge, but it has been all downhill since then.
"Practice?"
"How am I supposed to make my teammates better by practicing with them?"
"I'm a starter - I don't come off the bench"
Tim Duncan, in his first game back after sitting out two and half weeks with a mild knee injury, came off the bench - and he is 10X the player Iverson is.
Iverson is the poster boy for everything that is wrong with the NBA today, and pro sports in general. His play four years ago was among the best in the leauge, but it has been all downhill since then.
Iverson is totally overrated. He can't get anything accomplished on the team. His numbers are so inflated because of the millions of shot attempts he's taken. Damn, if I took that many shots in the NBA I would have the same numbers as him. His attitude sucks so hard, and he has a Napoleon complex.
On another note - it's nice to hear true Laker fans post in this thread....how come no one is trying to refute us? Because Lakers rule!
On another note - it's nice to hear true Laker fans post in this thread....how come no one is trying to refute us? Because Lakers rule!
you don't have a small chip on your shoulder there do ya bud?
no one is refuting you because no one believes kobe to be the most overrated player in nba history. no one believes he's even the most overrated player of his generation.
Originally posted by: Rufio
dude, i freaking bleed purple and gold. maybe i do have a chip, but i can admit it!!
i'm moving to LA, literally LA (wilshire blvd) in June.
mb i'll become a Lakers fan.
iamme
Lifer
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I dunno if I can think of Iverson as overrated.
On average the guy is like 6 inches shorter than everyone else, but can still put up great numbers. Remember, he nearly single handedly took his Sixers to the Finals.
I do agree with his bad attitude, but I don't know if he's overrated.
On average the guy is like 6 inches shorter than everyone else, but can still put up great numbers. Remember, he nearly single handedly took his Sixers to the Finals.
I do agree with his bad attitude, but I don't know if he's overrated.
Wow, wilshire?? that's dope dude. I miss the UCLA area!
I hope you like the crappy ass traffic jams!!
I hope you like the crappy ass traffic jams!!
Originally posted by: Rufio
Wow, wilshire?? that's dope dude. I miss the UCLA area!
I hope you like the crappy ass traffic jams!!
ya i know.
but it is korea town central tho, my wife is gonna love all those korean shops nearby.Vince is overrated because he can't defend worth crap and he's not durable. You can't exclude injuries from the picture, otherwise arvydas sabonis is one of the greatest players in history. Even if he weren't injured, he still can't defend. True, he's great in the 4th quarter. So is paul pierce, and pierce can defend.
Take a look at iverson and compare him to carter. Both have a lot of injuries, but iverson still plays, still scores, has tons of steals, etc. Vince is not like shaq, he can't get away with being lazy and broken down.
Take a look at iverson and compare him to carter. Both have a lot of injuries, but iverson still plays, still scores, has tons of steals, etc. Vince is not like shaq, he can't get away with being lazy and broken down.
SP33Demon
Lifer
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Maybe you don't follow basketball, and didn't see this stat. TMac led the league in scoring, b/c he took the most shots per game. Who ELSE can score on Philly? Orlando? Look at Kobe, he finished 10th in shots per 48min in the league with Shaq there. These are all go to guys. It's only appropriate that TMac (28.10) and Iverson (26.47) took the most shots, so they would finish 1-2 in scoring. Look at Baron Davis, for example. He took the fourth most shots/48 minutes (25.05), yet finished 6th in the league in scoring at 22.9. Iverson averaged 26.4pts, and took 1.4 more shots than Baron (the equivalent of about 3 points more per game). Funny, but Baron scored 3.5 ppg less than Iverson! Does that mean Baron sucks too? By your logic of just throwing up shots, Baron sucked as well and is "overrated" (hint: he was a shoe in for the All Star Game).
Iverson had 2.40 steals this season injured which was more than Baron Davis who led the league at 2.36 (Iverson averages 2.38 Steals per Game CAREER), Shawn Marion at 2.11, and Ron Artest at 2.08. Iverson had 6.8 assists per game which puts him at 7th in the league. His 26.4 PPG was 2nd best in the league, and he also contributed close to 4 boards a game. In fact Laker's fanboy, Iverson has better Assists, steals, and PPG than Kobe career. Kobe beats him in rebounds/game by 1(he's 6 inches taller), and has slightly less TO% and higher FG% (and he shouldn't miss much with Shaq to box out the biggest man on the court, Iverson has never had a good big man in Philly). Iverson also got the line more than Kobe/48minutes and finished 4th behind Shaq, Maggette, and Duncan. Still overrated?
Last but not least, you can talk all you want about Iverson's rant about not coming off the bench, but that was a result of him and Ford's dislike for each other. So much that they canned Ford and brought in O'Brien to coach next year... seriously, why in the world wouldn't you start the 2nd best scorer in the league?? Ford was a dumbass, and it cost him his job.
Steve Franics is complete crap!
Argh, when are they going to trade him out? Just by having him there, Yao Ming's game is improving much more slow than possible.
Just think how good Yao Ming can get with someone like Kidd playing.
Argh, when are they going to trade him out? Just by having him there, Yao Ming's game is improving much more slow than possible.
Just think how good Yao Ming can get with someone like Kidd playing.
Overrated is not the proper adjective to describe Kobe. Instead, he is the most selfish player I have ever seen. Yes, in the deciding seconds of a game, I would give him the ball and tell everybody else to get the hell out of his way. However, there are still times when he goes 1 on 4 in the 1st quarter for no particular reason. You would think as a veteran, Kobe would make better decisions.
Overrated is also not correct for Malone as well. Second all-time leading scorer is pretty damn impressive. Unfortunately, he is also the dirtiest power forward in NBA history, with his old buddy Stockton ranking up high for point guards. Just look at all the cheapshots they gave their opponents. I have no idea who taught them those tactics, but they are both got away with the inadvertent elbows and forearms for years.
Overrated is also not correct for Malone as well. Second all-time leading scorer is pretty damn impressive. Unfortunately, he is also the dirtiest power forward in NBA history, with his old buddy Stockton ranking up high for point guards. Just look at all the cheapshots they gave their opponents. I have no idea who taught them those tactics, but they are both got away with the inadvertent elbows and forearms for years.
that guy is a moron, kobe is awesome, he might be slightly overrated, but he is still a good player, i mean with shaq and him they won the championships, now with malone and payton they can;t win $hit
Dogg
Dogg
definitely not overrated. count on lot's of teams going into a bidding war to get him this coming summer.
No he wasnt but you know as well I do that Jordan and plenty of other Pro stars can win the
the Butt Pirate award.
his ex-wife decided that she needed to be the exclusive poon or nothing.lol
I read somewhere if i can recall it saying he had at least one mistress in every city that he played in.
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