Know of any vids on youtube that fly in the face of 9/11 'truthers' ??

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Wow... the level of intelligence in here is amusing.

Beaujangles : At this point you're just making stuff up as if somebody can't go back to page 1 and see that I never said anything you're saying I said. Why are you even posting if you can't read the posts you're replying to?

And then we have a new idiot joining the thread Number1, who apparently joined on page 3 and didn't read any other posts in the thread before posting, because that's what idiots do.

In other words, everyone can ignore everything airdata has to say on this matter. He is trolling.

No, my idea of trolling in this case was to post factual information and watch morons get all heated up about it, and then proceed to attack me for no reason like they are currently doing.

which is why I keep bumping the thread... it's kinda fun to see people expose themselves as illiterate fools. Especially when they think they're making a point. This is my last post in this thread. Please do everybody a favor and at least goto pages 1 and 2 and actually read and comprehend the posts before posting anything else and making yourself look more stupid.


However, if I have posted anything that is not factual in this thread, please... please point it out.

Rumsfeld knows flight 93 was shot down, fact. Just throwing it out there because it's an interesting thing. Must have been a tough choice to shoot down an airliner full of passengers, but there's no need to lie about it.

Video proves that thermite can cut through steel, fact. At no time did I even make an assertion that thermite was used to bring down the towers. Just posted a video showing a guy proving that thermite can be used to cut steel since supposed debunkers have done third class science experiments in the past and concluded thermite cant be used to cut through steel.

Of course, if you read any of my posts you would have known that already.

Flight 93 "official story", Jessica lynch "official story", Pat Tillman "official story", reason for going to war with iraq " official story" all complete fabrications.

I'm just citing these examples as recent examples where the government has crafted lies to tell the public about events that happened. I don't know why they chose to lie, I just know that it's common knowledge that they did.

Do I also need to bring up the war with iraq and the phantom WMD? It's now been proven that the intelligence was known to be bad. Our solution? change the operation name of course, and pretend that we didn't goto war over non existent WMD.

And with that, I wish you all luck in your endeavors. Have a great day and please, if you're having trouble reading anything I've written in this thread, visit http://www.hookedonphonics.com/. I hear they can even teach children to read.

 

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^ lmao tard.

 

[MotF Bane]

Is P&N becoming conspiracy lunatic central?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Wow... the level of intelligence in here is amusing.

Quoted purely for the irony.

Video proves that thermite can cut through steel, fact. At no time did I even make an assertion that thermite was used to bring down the towers. Just posted a video showing a guy proving that thermite can be used to cut steel since supposed debunkers have done third class science experiments in the past and concluded thermite cant be used to cut through steel.

You speak of intelligence levels and show none yourself.

We are not claiming that thermite cannot cut through steel. In fact, thermite was used for years to cut through steel railroad tracks and anyone the least bit familiar with the history of thermite already knows this. What is claimed is that thermite could not have been used to cut through the steel columns of the WTC buildings. There are a number of reasons for that, many of them which have already been mentioned to you, but you would rather ignore all of that to regurgitate the mind-numbingly moronic refrain about thermite cutting through steel.

Then you move on to say that you aren't even making an assertion that thermite was used to bring down the towers. Great, so it's purely some red herring and you're making mention of it in a 9/11 thread for absolutely no relevant reason whatsoever?

Sheesh. Level of intelligence indeed. Clearly you overestimate your own by a significant margin, which is no surprise amongst truthers. They are about the absolute rock-dumbest group of self-ascribed smart people on this entire planet.

 

[Matt1970]

Wow... the level of intelligence in here is amusing.

Someone who ignores 99.999999% of the evidence commenting on other's intelligence is what is really amusing.

 

[xj0hnx]

Rumsfeld knows flight 93 was shot down, fact. Just throwing it out there because it's an interesting thing.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the stupidity.

Video proves that thermite can cut through steel, fact.

Who said it can't cut through steel?

At no time did I even make an assertion that thermite was used to bring down the towers.

So why even bring it up?

Just posted a video showing a guy proving that thermite can be used to cut steel since supposed debunkers have done third class science experiments in the past and concluded thermite cant be used to cut through steel.

No one has said thermite can't cut through steel ...no one. Here is where your failure comes to a head. The problem with the thermite theory isn't whether or not it can cut steel, it's whether or not it can cut steel horizontally. The video is trying to prove not that thermite can cut steel, but that it can be used to make horizontal cuts. In order to do that you have to create a trough that can hold it against the steel long enough without being burnt out of. The other problem is igniting the thermite. While it is no problem to ignite thermite, or even create a containment system to hold it in place, the problem is that this containment system, and it's ignition system had to not only be able to survive being hit by a plane, and being consumed in flames for an hour, but still work properly to make the cuts to bring down the builds without leaving a trace. The entire idea is a failure start to finish.

Flight 93 "official story", Jessica lynch "official story", Pat Tillman "official story", reason for going to war with iraq " official story" all complete fabrications.

Of which all came out, much sooner than a decade, except teh Flight 93 BS.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

Humanistic psychologists argue that even if the cabal behind the conspiracy is almost always perceived as hostile there is, often, still an element of reassurance in it, for conspiracy theorists, in part because it is more consoling to think that complications and upheavals in human affairs, at least, are created by human beings rather than factors beyond human control. Belief in such a cabal is a device for reassuring oneself that certain occurrences are not random, but ordered by a human intelligence. This renders such occurrences comprehensible and potentially controllable. If a cabal can be implicated in a sequence of events, there is always the hope, however tenuous, of being able to break the cabal's power – or joining it and exercising some of that power oneself. Finally, belief in the power of such a cabal is an implicit assertion of human dignity – an often unconscious but necessary affirmation that man is not totally helpless, but is responsible, at least in some measure, for his own destiny.

 

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml

(CBS) Two dozen members of Osama bin Laden's family were urgently evacuated from the United States in the first days following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, according to the Saudi ambassador to Washington.

One of bin Laden's brothers frantically called the Saudi Arabian Embassy in Washington looking for protection, Prince Bandar bin Sultan told The New York Times. The brother was sent to a room in the Watergate Hotel and was told not to open the door.

Most of bin Laden's relatives were attending high school and college. The young members of the bin Laden family were driven or flown under FBI supervision to a secret place in Texas and then to Washington, The Times reported Sunday.

Many were terrified, fearing they would be lynched after hearing reports of violence against Muslims and Arab-Americans.

They left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks.

King Fahd, the ailing Saudi ruler, sent an urgent message to his embassy in Washington pointing out that there were "bin Laden children all over America" and ordered, "Take measures to protect the innocents," the ambassador said.

It's a tragedy," Prince Bandar told the Times. "The elders" of the students "came to see me, and one of them was a bright boy from Harvard who like the others had absolutely nothing to do with this and yet we had to tell him to go home and wait until the emotions calmed down. And he told me that he never really appreciated why the Japanese wanted a memorial or an apology for their treatment in World War II.

The student added, according to the prince, "I understand now that when you are innocent, in the face of emotion, nothing, not even common sense, can help argue your case."

Osama bin Laden is one of more than 50 children of a Yemeni-born migrant who made a vast fortune building roads and palaces in Saudi Arabia and his extended family spans the globe. Many have been educated in the United States and the family has donated millions of dollars to several American universities.

Bin Laden is estranged from his family and from Saudi Arabia, which revoked his citizenship in the early 1990s after he was caught smuggling weapons from Yemen.

I know I said my last post would be my last post... but I couldn't resist posting another fun 9-11 fact.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml



I know I said my last post would be my last post... but I couldn't resist posting another fun 9-11 fact.

So if your sibling was a mass murderer that automatically makes you one too?

btw, you are posting "facts" that are already well known. Do something that no truther has actually ever managed to do in here and post something we don't already know.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

So why even bring it up?

From what I've read *I think* because there hasn't been a legitimate explanation for the molten steel. (allegedly) At its hottest (right after impact + initial explosion) the jet fueled office fire is burning 1000 cooler than needed to liquify steel beams causing a collapse. Thermite was proposed as a possible accerlerant that *could* burn hot enough to liquify steel beams.

not making claims just posting what I've heard.



<<<not a scientist.

 

[BeauJangles]

From what I've read *I think* because there hasn't been a legitimate explanation for the molten steel. (allegedly) At its hottest (right after impact + initial explosion) the jet fueled office fire is burning 1000 cooler than needed to liquify steel beams causing a collapse. Thermite was proposed as a possible accerlerant that *could* burn hot enough to liquify steel beams.

not making claims just posting what I've heard.



<<<not a scientist.

There is no evidence that there was "molten steel" present in the pre-collapse towers or the in post-collapse rubble. There is tons of evidence that extremely hot metals were present, but no proof (or even shred of evidence) that it was steel.

As for the temperatures, the heat within the rubble was tremendous as well. Not enough to liquefy steel, but significant in and of itself.

Thermite has been "proposed" because there is no evidence of any real explosives. It's ability to cut / melt steel has never, ever been questioned by anyone.

 

[TechBoyJK]

Yea, the steel wasn't liquified, it was only heated to the point that it lost it's integrity and could no longer support the weight it was holding. That caused the steel to bend and buckle, not the heat itself.

 

[BeauJangles]

Wow... the level of intelligence in here is amusing.

Beaujangles : At this point you're just making stuff up as if somebody can't go back to page 1 and see that I never said anything you're saying I said. Why are you even posting if you can't read the posts you're replying to?

And then we have a new idiot joining the thread Number1, who apparently joined on page 3 and didn't read any other posts in the thread before posting, because that's what idiots do.

Oooh, name-calling. I love it.

No, my idea of trolling in this case was to post factual information and watch morons get all heated up about it, and then proceed to attack me for no reason like they are currently doing.

If you are post crap you don't believe to get a rise out of people, that is the definition of trolling.

which is why I keep bumping the thread... it's kinda fun to see people expose themselves as illiterate fools.

Funny, how would an "illiterate fool" even be able to read what your posting, no less compose a reply?

Especially when they think they're making a point. This is my last post in this thread. Please do everybody a favor and at least goto pages 1 and 2 and actually read and comprehend the posts before posting anything else and making yourself look more stupid.

Except you keep posting.

Rumsfeld knows flight 93 was shot down, fact.

That's not a fact. It's a misguided belief.

Just throwing it out there because it's an interesting thing.

You're not "just throwing it out there." Either you're trolling or a truther, you don't get to be some guy "throwing stuff out there" for the hell of it and based on your repeated conspiracy postings, you're a truther.

Must have been a tough choice to shoot down an airliner full of passengers, but there's no need to lie about it.

How exactly do you believe the military shot down Flight 93? Where is there even a shred of evidence for this hypothesis?

Video proves that thermite can cut through steel, fact.

Considering that thermite is used for cutting steel, nobody would argue that fact.

At no time did I even make an assertion that thermite was used to bring down the towers.

Trolling, trolling, trolling.

Just posted a video showing a guy proving that thermite can be used to cut steel since supposed debunkers have done third class science experiments in the past and concluded thermite cant be used to cut through steel.

Thermite is used for cutting steel. Ask anyone who works with it.

That's not the question at hand when it comes to WTC 1 and 2. The question is how much thermite would be required to cut through the beams that supported the towers (quite a bit), how would a vertical delivery system be designed that was foolproof, had fail-safes, and could be activated remotely, and why in god's name wouldn't they use real explosives?

Of course, if you read any of my posts you would have known that already.

Considering you can't decide whether you believe the stuff you post or not, why should this be clear to anyone?

Flight 93 "official story", Jessica lynch "official story", Pat Tillman "official story", reason for going to war with iraq " official story" all complete fabrications.

Oh boy. There are facts in several of those cases that resulted in the official story being bullshit. There are no facts in the Flight 93 story that has resulted in it being bullshit. Big difference, but your list sure does sound nice.

I'm just citing these examples as recent examples where the government has crafted lies to tell the public about events that happened.

I don't know why they chose to lie, I just know that it's common knowledge that they did.

Are you that dense that you cannot figure out why the government wouldn't want Pat Tillman to have been killed by friendly fire? And what do ANY of these stories have to do with 9/11? Zero.

Do I also need to bring up the war with iraq and the phantom WMD? It's now been proven that the intelligence was known to be bad. Our solution? change the operation name of course, and pretend that we didn't goto war over non existent WMD.

Again, what does this have to do with 9/11? That the government is capable of lying? Great. Every lie you've listed they got caught in except the one you're trying to prove is a lie. That "lie" also happens to be the biggest, happens to have had two separate inquiries into it, and happens to be one of the most analyzed events in history. Still, nobody has caught them lying. Kinda hurts your case, doesn't it?

And with that, I wish you all luck in your endeavors. Have a great day and please, if you're having trouble reading anything I've written in this thread, visit http://www.hookedonphonics.com/. I hear they can even teach children to read.

The irony.

 

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/09/30/archive/main313048.shtml



I know I said my last post would be my last post... but I couldn't resist posting another fun 9-11 fact.

Innocent Muslims are protected from harm by the U.S. gov't. News at 11! rofl.