Knockout game payback.

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rudeguy

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Investigating multiple reports of it. I know about a half dozen people whose cousin's friend got his kidney cut out when he was left in a bathtub of ice, too. Better start a special wing of the FBI.

And I know about a dozen people who have cancer. Does that mean cancer doesn't exist?
 

rudeguy

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Wow, that's a pretty content-free post. If you're trying to be the sugarless gum of them forum, be my guest. But don't expect me to respect your opinion if you can't get past the zero-calorie mark.

I am so sad that I don't have your respect. This is truly the worst day of my life.




Hey..anyone know how to get a moron's respect? I need some help here.
 

moonbogg

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For some reason I think the guy who did the kicking would get the most punishment. Our justice system is so twisted that common sense and common decency do not come into play.
He came to the aid of the woman. This is not considered by the law and can't matter, because he was not in danger. He attacked the guy when he had no reason to in the eyes of the law. This is a nation of individuals and fuck everyone else. He was supposed to let the woman get the living shit kicked out of her because that's America.
He fled the scene because he knew that although his actions may have been justifiable, they were also purely criminal with no recourse for defense. You are not permitted to protect others in America, you are only permitted to protect yourself and your family. You must let everyone else get fucked and die in a gutter or else face punishment from the law.
 

HumblePie

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Investigating multiple reports of it. I know about a half dozen people whose cousin's friend got his kidney cut out when he was left in a bathtub of ice, too. Better start a special wing of the FBI.

Wait, they are just all reports? That the video is just crap?

The knock out game isn't a racial thing as you seem to want to portray. The video clearly shows a black young man trying to randomly knock out a *gasp* black young woman. The man that came to her rescue was *gasp* a white man.

The "myth" of the knock out game is that it's people that somehow think there is a racial connection. There may be for some perpetrators of the "game" but that's not the game. The game is bored young MEN randomly selecting a person to try to knock out with a single punch as they run by. Something that can be quite clearly seen in the video. Along with several others on youtube.

As for epidemic? Probably not. More than likely no more than other stupid young male "gang" violence crap of which this has no real gang association and the driving factor for the motivation more than likely comes from social media "peers" than gang members.
 

HumblePie

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For some reason I think the guy who did the kicking would get the most punishment. Our justice system is so twisted that common sense and common decency do not come into play.
He came to the aid of the woman. This is not considered by the law and can't matter, because he was not in danger. He attacked the guy when he had no reason to in the eyes of the law. This is a nation of individuals and fuck everyone else. He was supposed to let the woman get the living shit kicked out of her because that's America.
He fled the scene because he knew that although his actions may have been justifiable, they were also purely criminal with no recourse for defense. You are not permitted to protect others in America, you are only permitted to protect yourself and your family. You must let everyone else get fucked and die in a gutter or else face punishment from the law.

Uh, in many states you can defend the life of another person with up to deadly force. If that happened anywhere in Texas the guy that came to defense of the woman would receive no punishment from the law. He delivered one kick that stopped the threat and then pulled the woman off the original perpetrator of the actual crime.
 

Matt1970

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Uh, in many states you can defend the life of another person with up to deadly force. If that happened anywhere in Texas the guy that came to defense of the woman would receive no punishment from the law. He delivered one kick that stopped the threat and then pulled the woman off the original perpetrator of the actual crime.

In California the guy that kicked the attacker would probably be arrested and sent to prison for 5 years and the attacker would get a cool half mill in compensation for his pain and suffering.
 

moonbogg

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Uh, in many states you can defend the life of another person with up to deadly force. If that happened anywhere in Texas the guy that came to defense of the woman would receive no punishment from the law. He delivered one kick that stopped the threat and then pulled the woman off the original perpetrator of the actual crime.

Really? That sounds strange to me. I live in California where you go to prison if a burglar gets hurt while burglarizing your property. I have no trust and no faith that justice will be done here. Too many stupid laws, too many restrictions, too many innocents going to prison for a long time. Too many lawyers who WANT innocents to go to prison so they can win a case.
Texas sounds great.
 
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Snopes doesn't have it, but USAToday does.

If I tried to hyperlink to every black-people-gonna-beat-the-white-people hoaxes made up in the past 200 years, my fingers would cramp and fall off. I'm sure some of you would like that too :)

You can buy it in book form if you want. Thanks to the American entrepreneurial spirit, there is always someone willing to sell you the boogeyman you need to complete your world-view.
The USA Today article doesn't say it's a hoax...it's saying it isn't a growing trend and it doesn't appear to be racially motivated.
 

HumblePie

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Really? That sounds strange to me. I live in California where you go to prison if a burglar gets hurt while burglarizing your property. I have no trust and no faith that justice will be done here. Too many stupid laws, too many restrictions, too many innocents going to prison for a long time. Too many lawyers who WANT innocents to go to prison so they can win a case.
Texas sounds great.

Texas laws for those things are a bit more rationale than Kommiefornia. Especially when the state laws don't allow for preemption but smaller localities. That is because the major cities of Austin, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio are all a bit more kooky lately with laws that they preempt over state laws.

But when it comes to self defense most of the laws are pretty good.
 

moonbogg

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Texas laws for those things are a bit more rationale than Kommiefornia. Especially when the state laws don't allow for preemption but smaller localities. That is because the major cities of Austin, Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio are all a bit more kooky lately with laws that they preempt over state laws.

But when it comes to self defense most of the laws are pretty good.

Yeah. I have no faith that if I defended myself or someone else I wouldn't go straight to prison. They'd call it murder, pat me on the ass and say, "See ya, bitch. Enjoy prison asshole. Should have let that guy actually attack you before deciding to take action".
 

Daverino

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The USA Today article doesn't say it's a hoax...it's saying it isn't a growing trend and it doesn't appear to be racially motivated.

Assault is not a hoax. There were over 275,000 common assaults in the US last year.

The 'Knockout Game' is an example of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. If I shoot a barn and then paint a bullseye around the bullet holes, I look like a sharpshooter. Here we see cherry picking a few examples of assault out of the hundreds of thousands that occur in order to support a pre-made conclusion. One of the driving forces behind the media here is Colin Flaherty, who published a book last year about the coming race wars between black and whites in America.

So just to be clear:

Assault = not a hoax
"Knockout Game" = hoax
 

Matt1970

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Assault is not a hoax. There were over 275,000 common assaults in the US last year.

The 'Knockout Game' is an example of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. If I shoot a barn and then paint a bullseye around the bullet holes, I look like a sharpshooter. Here we see cherry picking a few examples of assault out of the hundreds of thousands that occur in order to support a pre-made conclusion. One of the driving forces behind the media here is Colin Flaherty, who published a book last year about the coming race wars between black and whites in America.

So just to be clear:

Assault = not a hoax
"Knockout Game" = hoax

I am glad to know your outrage about these incidents is over what we call it. Do you think a person who gets hit in the head, falls onto concrete and has their skull cracked feels better knowing it was labeled a "random assault"?
 

rudeguy

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Assault is not a hoax. There were over 275,000 common assaults in the US last year.

The 'Knockout Game' is an example of the Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy. If I shoot a barn and then paint a bullseye around the bullet holes, I look like a sharpshooter. Here we see cherry picking a few examples of assault out of the hundreds of thousands that occur in order to support a pre-made conclusion. One of the driving forces behind the media here is Colin Flaherty, who published a book last year about the coming race wars between black and whites in America.

So just to be clear:

Assault = not a hoax
"Knockout Game" = hoax

So you are saying there is not anyone out there that has been knocked out by someone who did it only for fun?
 

HumblePie

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So you are saying there is not anyone out there that has been knocked out by someone who did it only for fun?

Nope, random assaults perpetrated by young men through social peer pressure purely for the thrills of it MUST be a hoax because some new age name is slapped up on the time honored tradition that goes back earliest recorded human history.

Who cares what fucking new label it slapped on the same old behavior that has been around for almost as long as there has been prostitutes and people spying on each other.
 

moonbogg

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Nope, random assaults perpetrated by young men through social peer pressure purely for the thrills of it MUST be a hoax because some new age name is slapped up on the time honored tradition that goes back earliest recorded human history.

Who cares what fucking new label it slapped on the same old behavior that has been around for almost as long as there has been prostitutes and people spying on each other.

Can't say for sure, but I'd have to almost agree. This doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would have sprung up recently, as if it were caused by the sad state of our society or something. Like everything else though, these events are reported instantly worldwide as they happen basically due to new technologies. So people can find things to single out and create a false trend if they want something to report on. Not saying that's happening here, but maybe.
 

HumblePie

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Can't say for sure, but I'd have to almost agree. This doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would have sprung up recently, as if it were caused by the sad state of our society or something. Like everything else though, these events are reported instantly worldwide as they happen basically due to new technologies. So people can find things to single out and create a false trend if they want something to report on. Not saying that's happening here, but maybe.

All it takes is looking at the word Bravado. Spanish word for to challenge. Many a young drunken male bravado would challenge random strangers to duels to the death for the thrill of it. Not something that was legal, but still done. One could be walking home one night and have some dumbass young man with too much time on his hands and too much social peer pressure decide to put a sword in your stomach for the shits and giggles. It was called "bravado's" back then and "knock out game" in today's world. Same shit different name.

Same idiots trying to downplay it too or call it a "hoax" by trying to slap the label of racism bias upon a crappy manifestation of human nature.
 

HTFOff

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Weekly incidents of caucasian men randomly clocking african americans? Documented on CCTV no less? Well you could expect daily marches and news anchors fighting back tears.

The media briefly acknowledge the "knockout" shit last month. It's gone viral. Deal with it you fucking schlubs.
 

Subyman

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"Jumping" people is nothing new. Neither is rounding up stories of one particular racial group doing it and giving it a catchy name. The "wilding" crusades caused four innocent boys to go to prison for years in the 80's. Look up the central park jogger case.

It's idiotic how quickly we repeat the same stuff, especially the media.
 

DucatiMonster696

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All it takes is looking at the word Bravado. Spanish word for to challenge. Many a young drunken male bravado would challenge random strangers to duels to the death for the thrill of it. Not something that was legal, but still done. One could be walking home one night and have some dumbass young man with too much time on his hands and too much social peer pressure decide to put a sword in your stomach for the shits and giggles. It was called "bravado's" back then and "knock out game" in today's world. Same shit different name.

Same idiots trying to downplay it too or call it a "hoax" by trying to slap the label of racism bias upon a crappy manifestation of human nature.

Except that a "challenge" back then actually involved an actual challenge, as in requesting a duel, fight, a race, test of strength, etc toward/against a superior opponent or challenging obstacle, etc.

There is nothing brave, not even foolishly brave, about this bullshit where some coward just runs up and punches a unsuspecting person (especially a woman) in the face in hopes that they will knock them unconscious. It's the epitome of cowardly thug culture and social decay in society today.
 
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werepossum

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So you are saying there is not anyone out there that has been knocked out by someone who did it only for fun?
Nah, he's just saying it's rude to notice because it's young black men assaulting non-blacks. Then he wanders off into a drool-laced assertion about how Colin Flaherty is "one of the driving forces behind the media here", which is akin to stating that Sammy Davis Jr is one of the driving forces of country music.

Apologies to Sammy Davis Jr for linking him in any way with Colin Flaherty, who isn't even a driving force in World Net Daily. Colin Flaherty is a very small and twisted frog in a very small algae-choked pond, and given that his credibility is about 1% that of Al Freakin' Sharpton I highly doubt he has motivated anyone in the mainstream media. His presence on this issue is a disincentive for the mainstream media, if anything.
 

Matt1970

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Except that a "challenge" back then actually involved an actual challenge, as in requesting a duel, fight, a race, test of strength, etc toward/against a superior opponent or challenging obstacle, etc.

There is nothing brave, not even foolishly brave, about this bullshit where some coward just runs up and punches a unsuspecting personing (especially a woman) in the face in hopes that they will knock them unconscious. It's the epitome of cowardly thug culture and social decay in society today.

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HumblePie

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Except that a "challenge" back then actually involved an actual challenge, as in requesting a duel, fight, a race, test of strength, etc toward/against a superior opponent or challenging obstacle, etc.

There is nothing brave, not even foolishly brave, about this bullshit where some coward just runs up and punches a unsuspecting person (especially a woman) in the face in hopes that they will knock them unconscious. It's the epitome of cowardly thug culture and social decay in society today.

Except they really didn't "challenge" all that many fair fights if you know the history. Sure there were some challenges between bravados. Like there are fights between gangs over turf. Most of the "challenges" were nothing more than young men looking to kill someone they could for the thrill of it at the time.