Knee defender device caused a fight on NJ to CO flight.

[tynopik]

I have my ways to deal with "big tough guys" like you.

ooh, sounds like we got a real internet tough guy here

 

[Svnla]

ooh, sounds like we got a real internet tough guy here

Not me. I was not strong and big like you. I am just a lowly "manlet" as you said, remember? :biggrin:

I was not the big strong guy like you that dare to "kicking repeatedly" other lowly passengers, remember?

"Who's Bad" - M. Jackson. You are, tynopik.

 

[tynopik]

Not me. I was not strong and big like you. I am just a lowly "manlet" as you said, remember? :biggrin:

You're the one that won't shut up about your 'ways' of dealing with tough guys and how there's no way anyone can stop you from doing what you want to do

sounds like internet tough guy to me

 

[Svnla]

You're the one that won't shut up about your 'ways' of dealing with tough guys and how there's no way anyone can stop you from doing what you want to do

sounds like internet tough guy to me

Did I mention in my post that my way (about how to deal with people that would not let me recline the seat, not tough guys as you claimed) was in anyway violent or badass? Dig deeper, tough guy. Or shall I say...kick harder....ROTFLMAO.

This is getting old. I said what I need to say. You just do what you do best, kicking other passengers/seats.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Why don't you two get a room and keep all your dirty talk between each other.

 

[Paratus]

There's a special hell for people who recline their seats in coach. The one for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

 

[Leros]

I kinda feel for the guy. I can only put my laptop on the tray table if the person in front of me doesn't recline. Despite the seats having extra leg room, the recline might have taken away enough tray table room to make the laptop not fit. If I was relying on having time to work on the plane, the person in front of me reclining would drive me insane.

 

[tynopik]

Did I mention in my post that my way (about how to deal with people that would not let me recline the seat, not tough guys as you claimed) was in anyway violent or badass?

ok, fine, I give up, what is your magic way?

move to a different seat?

 

[Red Squirrel]

I always wondered why airplane seats recline at all. Does not really bother me since I'm a small guy but knowing how much room their is I never dare recline my seat in case I break some big tough guy's teeth in the process. 😛

Airlines keep trying to find ways to put more seats on planes, soon they'll just get rid of seats altogether. For every seat you can have like 3 people standing. Suddenly a DHC Dash-8 will be able to handle like 200 passengers!

For the price of plane tickets they should at least have the same amount of room as a coach bus.

 

[Zodiark1593]

To recline or not to recline?

Being a tall person myself though, I tend to avoid airlines like the plague. A city bus ride is the epitome of comfort compared to a coach flight. God forbid I want to watch a movie on my 17" laptop when the dude in front wants to recline. Glad that conflict has yet to come.

 

[MrColin]

I've never been that bothered by the reclining behavior of people on planes. What I think would be nice is if the TSA scanners could pick up which passengers have significant fart gas stored in thier gut and make them climb a staircase in a hypobaric chamber prior to boarding. That would go a long way toward improving the in flight experience.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I've never been that bothered by the reclining behavior of people on planes. What I think would be nice is if the TSA scanners could pick up which passengers have significant fart gas stored in thier gut and make them climb a staircase in a hypobaric chamber prior to boarding. That would go a long way toward improving the in flight experience.

Make that chamber sound proof and get kids to go there too. Sorry kids, it's gonna stink up there, but it will be worth it for the parents. :biggrin:

I've only been on a plane a few times and been lucky to never have bad experiences though. Been on long haul coach buses a lot more and also been pretty lucky on those. Once I got stuck with someone with a crying baby but she was only going like 2 towns off so it was maybe only a few hours.

 

[jlee]

I don't care if the person in front of me reclines. I expect it actually. It only moves back a couple inches at most and I usually recline my seat too so what's the big deal? We all have to fly in the same shitty conditions so why not do whatever you can to make it more comfortable for everyone? Is that couple inches of air between your face and the seatback in front of you being used for anything more important?

The ONLY time I EVER purposefully didn't recline my seat on an airliner was when an active duty Marine was sitting behind me. I was flying from Texas to San Diego with my wife and son and I thought out of respect for him and the sacrifice that he made that I would give him a little extra room at my expense.

Everyone else can go fuck themselves. :wub:😛

This. I'm also not bothered when the person in front of me reclines their seats.

What airlines are you guys flying that the seat in front of you squashes you if it's reclined 3 inches?

I always wondered why airplane seats recline at all. Does not really bother me since I'm a small guy but knowing how much room their is I never dare recline my seat in case I break some big tough guy's teeth in the process. 😛

Airlines keep trying to find ways to put more seats on planes, soon they'll just get rid of seats altogether. For every seat you can have like 3 people standing. Suddenly a DHC Dash-8 will be able to handle like 200 passengers!

For the price of plane tickets they should at least have the same amount of room as a coach bus.

My last flight cost me 13 cents a mile. My last coach bus ticket cost me 33 cents a mile.

Just sayin'.

 

[chubbyfatazn]

Airlines keep trying to find ways to put more seats on planes, soon they'll just get rid of seats altogether. For every seat you can have like 3 people standing. Suddenly a DHC Dash-8 will be able to handle like 200 passengers!

Lucky for you (and everyone else) that won't happen.

You can only stuff as many seats in as the number of exits on the plane allows per regulatory standards. Not to mention the regulations the seats have to meet, like withstanding a certain amount of force. And that you'd have to find somewhere to put all the flight attendants (1 per 50 pax on most planes you'll ever be on).

You ain't the first one to think of standing seats though. Ryanair (Southwest's perpetually-drunk/aggressive Irish cousin) wanted to do it and published a few images of the concept.

Margins are a lot thinner for airlines than for bus services. It's not uncommon to have only a few dollars profit/passenger if the flight even makes money at all. How many buses can you buy with $10 or $20 billion? And that's just the airplanes themselves (yeah, I know they don't go handing over checks with nine 0s after a number, but the point still stands)?

 

[Red Squirrel]

My last flight cost me 13 cents a mile. My last coach bus ticket cost me 33 cents a mile.

Just sayin'.

Before Porter Airlines came to town it was over a grand just to get to Toronto as Air Canada Jazz was the only choice so they could charge what they want. Bus, about 100 bucks.

It's more reasonable now that there's Porter though. With Porter it's about 210 one way to Toronto (which is a typical destination as there's only so many cities you can get to from here and Toronto is a main connecting hub)

So ~900km at $210 is about 23c per km... actually cheaper than I figured. Too lazy to convert to miles. Now if I had to get to Toronto I'd probably pay a bit extra and fly anyway though, the prices are a bit more within reach now. Take under 1 hour vs like 12 hours in a bus or having to drive which would still take 9 hours.

 

[tmc]

imho, recliner > laptop.

recliners are meant for that. a laptop/notebook is not designed (i.e., meant for - as in "sole purpose") for in flight use.

granted, they both acted immaturely.

 

[BarkingGhostar]

The problem is that the airlines advertise what leg room/space you are paying for and then not delivering because of the person reclining in front of you. I do not blame the person in front of me, but the airline for false advertising.

But if we expect to pay for low cost tickets to be hauled like cows on the way to a slaughterhouse then this is the end result. Personally I hope to see hundreds and thousands of fights and compromised flights because of this airline abuse.

 

[Paratus]

I was on a United flight for business in coach. Once the person in front of me put their seat back my laptop was literally up against my chest.

When I'm traveling with my kids, I feel it's my responsibility to keep them quiet and entertained. So they don't bother the other passengers. However, if the person in front of me or my kids reclines back so I can't reach their toys or setup a movie then all bets are off. If my kids start kicking the seat in front of me, ah well what are you going to do in such a small space? If they start crying I'll make sure everyone around us knows why there's nothing I can do.

In reality, most people have been understanding, that allowing us enough room to entertain out kids is better for their comfort than a few more inches of travel.

If it's just me traveling and I don't have to work, it's not really a big deal, just a minor frustration.

 

[slag]

Fuck reclining seats. When someone in front of you reclines the top of the seat goes right into your face. Your only recourse is to recline your own seat, and the last seats in the plane don't recline, so unless there's an empty row somewhere, some poor sap is sitting there upright with a seat in his face.

AMEN. I don't want to smell someone's stank ass hair and if I'm watching a movie in my tablet or laptop, how can I if the seat is reclining? What happens if he is watching a movie and she reclines the seat. Once it infringes on his activities, I think she should move her seat back up.

 

[slag]

Who cares if people recline their seats?

Put a movie on and shut the hell up like everyone else. lol at people arguing about seats on a flight.

And who DOESN'T recline btw? I don't think I've ever see someone sit upright on even short flights.

Me. I might have reclined once and only if the seat behind me was vacant. While it's there to do, I consider it rude if you don't ask the person behind you first as you are encroaching on their already small personal space they have.

 

[nageov3t]

Me. I might have reclined once and only if the seat behind me was vacant. While it's there to do, I consider it rude if you don't ask the person behind you first as you are encroaching on their already small personal space they have.

likewise. I've just never seen the point... it doesn't give you that much space and it's just about always at the expense of annoying the person behind you and/or having their knees dig into your back.

it's not as if it reclines to much that it's going to help me sleep or anything.

 

[Red Storm]

I don't know what airlines you guys are flying on where if the person ahead reclines a few inches suddenly their seat is in your face or in your knees. Either you're all 7 foot giants or there's a lot of exaggerating going on.

 

[BikeJunkie]

Good for her (the chick who threw the water on the guy). What a douchebag. Shame on the FA's for not handling the guy themselves.

PSA: Seats on flights recline. If this is too much of an inconvenience for you, don't fly.

FWIW, I'm tall enough that when people recline, it cramps me quite a bit. That's the price of air travel, folks.

 

[Phoenix86]

I don't know what airlines you guys are flying on where if the person ahead reclines a few inches suddenly their seat is in your face or in your knees. Either you're all 7 foot giants or there's a lot of exaggerating going on.

Don't forget the angle and the fixed point of rotation. Their knees are at the lowest end, unless their knees are somehow above their belly the loss of space is much less.

 

[BUTCH1]

Just because you live your life as a coward don't assume that everyone else is just as pathetic. Not everyone is afraid of strangers. If I don't want a persons seat in my face I'll do something about it. Grow a pair, you might like it.

Fines are steep if you assault someone on an airplane and you don't get to make the rules, the airlines and the FAA do. If it's that much of an issue for you then complain to the airline about it, if enough do then the will lock the seats or limit the amount it can recline but the rules right now say you will do "squat" about it, threaten someone on a flight and you will most likely be arrested when the plane lands. For myself I do recline the seat but not to it's full length of travel..