*Kitna named Superbowl MVP!* Official NFL 2013 Postseason thread

[iRONic]

If the Patriots can run that effectively against the Broncos, Manning will need to put up some points...

Entirely possible depending on which version of New England's defense shows up.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Suppose I entertain you one last time on this subject, but 10 seconds and a timeout trying to get into field goal range (or a shot at end zone) is A LOT different than 10 seconds with no timeout. That's just one scenario.

Where are you getting 10 seconds and a timeout? That's a completely arbitrary time and timeout scenario you just invented that doesn't apply to this specific scenario. Obviously you'd rather have 10 seconds and a timeout than 10 seconds and no timeout, but the Chargers were hoping to stop Denver's drive and force a punt with a very specific timeframe. The real question is would you rather get the ball with 1:10 on the clock and no timeouts or 0:30 and 1 timeout? I can guarantee you every coach in the league is taking the time; it gives you the opportunity to run more plays and every team practices their one-minute offense for exactly those scenarios. This is all academic, since it relied on San Diego's defense stopping the best offense in NFL history, and it predictably failed to do that, but no coach is holding onto that timeout for the completely arbitrary scenario of 10 seconds left and one timeout.

 

[iRONic]

Did anyone see this? Not sure if this was brought up earlier but what a pathetic flop by Cam Newton:

Auditioning for the Habs...

 

[Atomic Playboy]

What is up with the strange times for Sunday? 3:00 and 6:30ET?

Why the hell are the Sunday games so early? The "evening game" starts at 4:40PM EST? What idiot thought that was a good idea? Bump that back a couple hours, bump the early game back a couple hours, and don't force people on the West Coast to get up at 10:00 AM on a Sunday, dammit! I need my sleep!

Seriously, think about the west coast times for football on Sunday:

10:00 AM - Early game
1:30 PM - Late game

If you're religious (I'm not, but there are plenty of football fans who are), church is going to cut into your ability to watch the entirety of the early game. Barring overtime, football is over before 5 PM. I want to watch the game and have a beer with my buddies, but I'm not drinking beer at 10 AM. By the time a proper drinking hour arrives, there's nothing to watch. And, lest we forget, the late game is between the Denver Broncos (Mountain Time) and the San Diego Chargers (Pacific Time), so the fanbases that are most involved aren't going to have any problems staying up past when 9 PM descends on the East Coast. I think the East Coast bias being exhibited by the NFL on a day when exactly one East Coast team is playing is absurd. At the very least, they could compromise by knocking it back an hour; having all football done before the sun sets is just annoying.

Looks like the NFL used my idea. Thanks Rog!

 

[Ns1]

weak

The Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos already have home-field advantage for their NFL conference championship games on Sunday.
With tickets for those games available starting Monday morning, the teams are trying to make sure that advantage is as big as possible by limiting sales to buyers from certain regions.
According to the Seahawks' website, tickets for the NFC championship game against the San Francisco 49ers "will be available to fans with a billing address in WA, OR, MT, ID, AK, HI and the Canadian provinces of British Columbia and Alberta."
As you may have noticed, CA was not mentioned in that list.
Similarly, the Broncos' website says that tickets for the AFC championship game against the New England Patriots "will be available only to those with a valid billing address in the Rocky Mountain region, including Colorado, New Mexico, Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, Montana, South Dakota and Western Kansas."
In other words, no Patriots fans allowed.
This isn't the first time teams have tried such a tactic, and there are ways around it for fans of the teams involved who live outside the designated area. Of course, they might have to be pretty crafty about it and be willing to spend more than a little extra money to do so.
“It's pretty sad," David Fucillo, founder of the NinersNationfan group, told KTVU-TV. "There was no need to do this. It adds another distraction."


http://www.latimes.com/sports/sport...ickets-20140113,0,6051214.story#ixzz2qInWSE1s

 

[smackababy]

weak

That is BS. I understand them wanting their own fans to have priority, but for these big games you shouldn't be allowed to completely block everyone. Maybe give the home region like an extra hour or something to get tickets. Sales for them start at like 7AM and open for everyone else at 8AM.

 

[dainthomas]

weak

In Seattle's defense, they'd prefer not to have their fans stabbed after the game.

 

[Imported]

Harris out with a torn ACL. Big blow to Broncos secondary..

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I don't see the outrage. If you're concerned that homefield advantage is too great, you'd petition the NFL to use neutral fields for the championship games. I don't see anyone arguing that. So it comes down to whether the owners can legitimately expect to sell out their tickets with regional prejudice; if they can, why wouldn't they? It looks better from a team perspective if the entire stadium is filled with fans of the team, not a mixture with some fans of the opponent.

Sure, it's shady, but it's their prerogative.

 

[smackababy]

In Seattle's defense, they'd prefer not to have their fans stabbed after the game.

In that guy's defense, he was attacked by the Falcons fan first.

 

[Ban Bot]

That is BS. I understand them wanting their own fans to have priority, but for these big games you shouldn't be allowed to completely block everyone. Maybe give the home region like an extra hour or something to get tickets. Sales for them start at like 7AM and open for everyone else at 8AM.

The last game sold out in 15 minutes. Hence a 1 hour delay would be a formality with no relevance--same net effect.

Considering King County and Seattle tax payers, fans or not, have substantially funded the local stadiums local residents should absolutely get priority before non-residents. Don't like it? Go get home field for your own city. I would not have whined if WAS and ATL last year only sold tickets locally. Those cities support those teams in many ways, including financially, so reserving tickets for the local fan base should be an obvious policy.

This is only an issue because as we saw last week teams like IND and CIN do not have the luxury of ticket limitations if they want to avoid blackouts.

 

[Ns1]

Guess I'm just used to college FB where you still give your opponents a small slice of the seats...

 

[gorcorps]

Harris out with a torn ACL. Big blow to Broncos secondary..

Fuck

Most of the big plays in the 4th were because his replacement (Jammer) got burned. He looked awful, and they need to do something to make sure Brady can't pick on him all game. I'd take Champ in his current condition before Jammer, so maybe they can move Champ back outside... or I'd even take Webster with his cast over what I saw from Jammer.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Fuck

Most of the big plays in the 4th were because his replacement (Jammer) got burned. He looked awful, and they need to do something to make sure Brady can't pick on him all game. I'd take Champ in his current condition before Jammer, so maybe they can move Champ back outside... or I'd even take Webster with his cast over what I saw from Jammer.

Lol, when I was watching the game and heard the name "Jammer," I was like WTF? That guy is ancient and he still plays?!?!?!

 

[KeithTalent]

Guess I'm just used to college FB where you still give your opponents a small slice of the seats...

Soccer is the same way overseas. They even give you your own section!

KT

 

[IAteYourMother]

I don't see the outrage. If you're concerned that homefield advantage is too great, you'd petition the NFL to use neutral fields for the championship games. I don't see anyone arguing that. So it comes down to whether the owners can legitimately expect to sell out their tickets with regional prejudice; if they can, why wouldn't they? It looks better from a team perspective if the entire stadium is filled with fans of the team, not a mixture with some fans of the opponent.

Sure, it's shady, but it's their prerogative.

I don't like it because I don't think it should be legal - tax free/antitrust/interstate commerce/etc

 

[gorcorps]

The last game sold out in 15 minutes. Hence a 1 hour delay would be a formality with no relevance--same net effect.

Considering King County and Seattle tax payers, fans or not, have substantially funded the local stadiums local residents should absolutely get priority before non-residents. Don't like it? Go get home field for your own city. I would not have whined if WAS and ATL last year only sold tickets locally. Those cities support those teams in many ways, including financially, so reserving tickets for the local fan base should be an obvious policy.

This is only an issue because as we saw last week teams like IND and CIN do not have the luxury of ticket limitations if they want to avoid blackouts.

Bolded the important part, I agree

Obviously I'm biased here, but if people outside of that fanbase don't like it they can suck it. I'm totally in favor of anything that gives teams a reason to play their ass off the entire regular season to ensure they get HFA (and not just any playoff spot). With the week 15 loss to the Chargers, Denver offered up the #1 seed to either NE or KC and neither of them took advantage.

Also, it looks like they're just doing this to ensure the most home fielders, but the reality is that it also keeps scalpers and resellers limited. If you limit ticket sales to that geographical area, chances are higher that the people that are buying them in the first place are much more likely to be doing so because they actually plan on going to the game. If you open it up to everyone in the country you have a greater chance of them being bought up by people that just want to jack the price up and resell to people near the stadiums.

 

[gorcorps]

Lol, when I was watching the game and heard the name "Jammer," I was like WTF? That guy is ancient and he still plays?!?!?!

:hmm:

Up until this season he was with the Chargers... I wonder if he's a spy and he tried to throw the game

IT'S RIGGED I TELLS YA! RIGGED!

 

[Ns1]

Also, it looks like they're just doing this to ensure the most home fielders, but the reality is that it also keeps scalpers and resellers limited. If you limit ticket sales to that geographical area, chances are higher that the people that are buying them in the first place are much more likely to be doing so because they actually plan on going to the game. If you open it up to everyone in the country you have a greater chance of them being bought up by people that just want to jack the price up and resell to people near the stadiums.

Unless you're a visiting city, in which case your ONLY choice is scalpers/resellers.

Seems like scalpers/resellers are filling an important need

 

[gorcorps]

Unless you're a visiting city, in which case your ONLY choice is scalpers/resellers.

Seems like scalpers/resellers are filling an important need

I don't consider getting patriots fans to Denver a need at all, dagnabbit

 

[Kev]

In Seattle's defense, they'd prefer not to have their fans stabbed after the game.

Must have been an Eagles fan dressed in a 49ers fan disguise, because as previously discussed, only Eagles fans are assholes.

 

[SP33Demon]

Bolded the important part, I agree

Obviously I'm biased here, but if people outside of that fanbase don't like it they can suck it. I'm totally in favor of anything that gives teams a reason to play their ass off the entire regular season to ensure they get HFA (and not just any playoff spot). With the week 15 loss to the Chargers, Denver offered up the #1 seed to either NE or KC and neither of them took advantage.

Also, it looks like they're just doing this to ensure the most home fielders, but the reality is that it also keeps scalpers and resellers limited. If you limit ticket sales to that geographical area, chances are higher that the people that are buying them in the first place are much more likely to be doing so because they actually plan on going to the game. If you open it up to everyone in the country you have a greater chance of them being bought up by people that just want to jack the price up and resell to people near the stadiums.

Agreed, let Pats and 9er fans buy the rest off Stubhub/eBay. It's not like they still can't get tix, they'll just have to pay more if they don't know someone in those states.

 

[Childs]

Suppose I entertain you one last time on this subject, but 10 seconds and a timeout trying to get into field goal range (or a shot at end zone) is A LOT different than 10 seconds with no timeout. That's just one scenario.

You keep forgetting that if SD didnt call a timeout at 2:02, it would have been 1st down at the 2:00 mark. A play takes 40-50 seconds off the game clock. If they dont call that timeout Denver runs out the clock. They need to take that timeout before they get the ball back. There is no way around it.

 

[SP33Demon]

From PFF

Marshawn Lynch forced 13 missed tackles rushing vs the Saints. Every other RB put together this week combined for just 17.

Think Buffalo isn't wishing they traded Lynch for Chris Hairston (out for the year in preseason) and Tank Carder (Cut in 2012)? lol

 

[zinfamous]

Lol, when I was watching the game and heard the name "Jammer," I was like WTF? That guy is ancient and he still plays?!?!?!

Isn't he a lot younger than Champ Bailey, though? (Still, same question applies to Bailey, especially considering his performance last season)