KitGuru tested the FX9590... it's pretty bad.

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galego

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Not sure even if you understood what I said. Point is, this eurogamer quote you love so much is just speculation by who knows which and how many developers, who will obviously not recommend Intel if they are part of a program sponsored by amd (gaming evolved).

I am not interested in conspiracy theories or similar stuff without any basis. I am interested in technical stuff. I repeat part of my post:

I was talking about technical facts: num. of cores, core freq., IPC, out-of-order execution,...
 

Gikaseixas

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don't really care if it consumes 220w but what about matching i7 3930k on most things (given the price)? Very disappointed. Price should be 300 maximum for this and 250 for the FX9370.
 
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I am not interested in conspiracy theories or similar stuff without any basis. I am interested in technical stuff. I repeat part of my post:

A recommendation without documentation of who actually made it or whether they had a vested interest of some sort is hardly "technical stuff".
 

bononos

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The myth about the giant delta power consumption of the 8350, which has been debunked in the forums many times. The total power consumption is about 40-80W above a 3770k under full load, as has been shown in many places.

Moreover, many people here claimed that the 9590 was a OC 8350 and that its power consumption would be giant. Another exaggeration. Even this pretty bad review comparing an OC 9590 to a OC 3960x shows that the intel chips consumes much more power. It lacks power consumption figures of the 3960x at stock, but here you find ones
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2012/11/06/amd-fx-8350-review/7
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No its not been debunked yet.
That review you posted from bit-tech was a bit on the low side, being only 47W over the 3770 non-overclocked.
TR's review showed that under full load using x264 the 8350 was ~100W higher. Xbit's test using linx gave an 87W difference. IDC's testing showed that the 8350 was consuming roughly 200W at stock.

The huge delta, large differences btwn reviews and AMD not showing the temps correctly makes people think that the PD 8350 might not be properly binned. I'm not discounting that the 3960x could be picked golden samples however.

In the end, it might not matter to the enthusiast who sees this high end model as a collectible. Like smoky black power firearms, being large (2 billion xtors), run hot, heavy heatsink and suck down lots of power are fun distinguishing traits of what might be AMDs last big and extra wide cpu. But its not some stable and reliable workhorse cpu for the office, I think some motherboards might flame out or implement some throttling tech.
 

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"This item can only be purchased with combo " You need to buy a complete system in order to get this processor. I tried adding it to my cart and it wanted me to buy $1300 worth of computer parts on top of it.


I take it you can't buy them separately unless you find it from an unauthorized retailer.
 
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ruhtraeel

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So it seems like to me, the market for this processor is liquid-nitrogen-using overclocking benchmarkers.

It seems like nobody in their right mind would buy this over an Intel one, or something like an 8320/8350.

This sucks, both generations of processors right now run unbelievably hot
 

nemesismk2

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I just saw the FX9590 and FX9370 available at my usual computer supplier in the UK. The FX9590 is £583 and FX9370 is £216 and they are instock :)

I also noticed that they have the AMD Opteron 6272 16 Core Processor for £274 but this is outstock. Who wouldn't want a 16 Core CPU just for bragging rights? I used to own an AMD Opteron 180 which was a grreat CPU.

AMD proudly presents Opteron 6272 processor from the AMD Opteron 6200 Series-the world's first and only 16-core x86 server processor with the highest core density for incredible scalability to handle demanding multi-threaded workloads such as cloud computing, virtualization, high-performance computing (HPC), databases and business applications. The innovative modular architecture helps pack in more cores, making it the natural choice for heavy-threaded cloud computing environments and enterprise applications that demand outstanding performance and scalability.

- Cores: 16 core
- Clock Speed: 2.1GHz
- Turbo Speed: 3.0GHz
- L1 Cache: 48kb x 16
- L2 Cache: 1MB x 16
- L3 Cache: 16MB
- Wattage: 115W
- FSB/HT Speed: 6400MT/s
- Socket: G34 (LGA 1944)
 

SlowSpyder

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I don't suppose anyone has seen any sort of review on the 9370? I'm curious if the slightly lower clock speed tames the heat output a bit, and if it'll hit 9590 clocks without too much drama.
 

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I just saw the FX9590 and FX9370 available at my usual computer supplier in the UK. The FX9590 is £583 and FX9370 is £216 and they are instock :)

I also noticed that they have the AMD Opteron 6272 16 Core Processor for £274 but this is outstock. Who wouldn't want a 16 Core CPU just for bragging rights? I used to own an AMD Opteron 180 which was a grreat CPU.

AMD proudly presents Opteron 6272 processor from the AMD Opteron 6200 Series-the world's first and only 16-core x86 server processor with the highest core density for incredible scalability to handle demanding multi-threaded workloads such as cloud computing, virtualization, high-performance computing (HPC), databases and business applications. The innovative modular architecture helps pack in more cores, making it the natural choice for heavy-threaded cloud computing environments and enterprise applications that demand outstanding performance and scalability.

- Cores: 16 core
- Clock Speed: 2.1GHz
- Turbo Speed: 3.0GHz
- L1 Cache: 48kb x 16
- L2 Cache: 1MB x 16
- L3 Cache: 16MB
- Wattage: 115W
- FSB/HT Speed: 6400MT/s
- Socket: G34 (LGA 1944)


apparently the 16 core opteron is two 4 module bulldozer/vishera cpus kinda glued together, look at the pin out of g34 v. am3+
 

SlowSpyder

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Well Newegg has it at $900. Where you guys talking about eBay pricing? Ya, I was not looking at that.





I bought one at $368 yesterday, but the seller told me he doesn't have them in stock (though they were marked as such when I paid). He said it was an Amazon mistake, but he's trying to get an ETA for me, or find out if he'll be getting any at all. They were around for ~$400 yesterday, that seems to have dried up, though.

I already have my motherboard and DDR3 on the way from Newegg. So I can stick my Phenom in there if I want, but I really want to get a 9590... just not for $800+.
 

Remobz

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Only get AMD in a cheap laptop for basic internet surfing and programs. Anything gaming wise....forget it!
 

SlowSpyder

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Only get AMD in a cheap laptop for basic internet surfing and programs. Anything gaming wise....forget it!


Agreed. I am looking forward to getting one of these AMD parts to watch Youtube @ 5GHz. I hear its better that way.



And how would it do against..say an i5 4250U? Or an i5 4288U?

I honestly don't know off the top of my head... but I'll say for the sake of argument that it'd lose in the benchmarks. Does that change anything regarding the quote he is responding to?
 

monstercameron

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And how would it do against..say an i5 4250U? Or an i5 4288U?

3dmark icestorm amd--> 61503 | intel --> 40454

it should outperform it in integrated gaming scenarios
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-5000.91978.0.html
[apple mbp i5]
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7660G.69830.0.html
[amd a10-4600m instead of the a10-5750m]

then again the i5 has less than half the tdp, uses less power, is an soc and competitive cpu performance.
then again it is twice the price of the amd part

i5 4288U - hasn't been benched in the wild yet afaik...

competitively http://www.anandtech.com/show/7032/...-gpu-on-the-desktop-radeon-hd-8670d-hd-4600/2

I will not derail this thread anymore!
 
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ShintaiDK

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3dmark icestorm amd--> 61503 | intel --> 40454

it should outperform it in integrated gaming scenarios
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-5000.91978.0.html
[apple mbp i5]
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7660G.69830.0.html
[amd a10-4600m instead of the a10-5750m]

then again the i5 has less than half the tdp, uses less power, is an soc and competitive cpu performance.
then again it is twice the price of the amd part

i5 4288U - hasn't been benched in the wild yet afaik...

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Genera...-Perspective/Intel-HD-5000-Graphics-Performan

But maybe we shouldnt derail this thread with that ;)