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I am a huge kitchen appliance nerd. Oddly enough, there's not many sources of information or news on appliances & kitchen technology. Aside from Youtube, CNET probably is probably the biggest source of information:

http://www.cnet.com/topics/appliances/

Anyway, the point of this thread is to discuss kitchen appliances, tools, and other technology for cooking. I'll be posting mini-reviews of the stuff I've used & occasionally other cool stuff I come across & will create a little table of contents in this post. Anyone is welcome to join in & post! When I started cooking, I literally did not know how to boil water (I had to call my wife to tell me how lol), but now I'm a pretty decent cook & enjoy using technology to make my food prep easier & taste better. There's a lot of cool stuff out there that not everyone is aware of that can really make life easier if you cook at home!

Table of Contents:
Instant Pot (electric pressure cooker - read this if you like crockpots!)
Champion juicer (fruit & vegetable juicer, also makes soft-serve banana ice cream!)
Epica citrus juicer
 
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Instant Pot: Topics = slow cookers, crockpots, pressure cookers, and electric pressure cookers

This post is about the Instant Pot (IP), which is an EPC (electric pressure cooker). But first, some background. Crockpots (slow cookers) have been around for ages & are an easy way to make great-tasting food. They are also super cheap (I've seen them as low as $10). They typically have a low & high temperature setting & are designed to sit there & cook food automatically all day long. They come in various sizes & have various features; some of the newer ones have timers, keep-warm functions, temperature problems, and even remote control from your smartphone. Dump food in, wait a long time, yummy food comes out.

In parallel, there are also pressure cookers. These work by raising the boiling point of water using pressure & cooking the food faster. Same concept as a crockpot - just a fast cooker instead of a slow cooker. Another bonus is that because they're sealed, no steam is released so you get a little bit of a better flavor too. The problem with pressure cookers is that you have to babysit them & they have a history of blowing the lid off if you're not careful.

They now sell electric pressure cookers (EPC's), which operate at a lower pressure (11.6 PSI vs. say 15 PSI), but have more safety features built-in & don't require babysitting. Many of them also double as a slowcooker, so if you don't need your food in 20 minutes & would rather have it sit there & stew all day long, you can do that. My favorite EPC is the Instant Pot, specifically the latest 7-in-1 model: (goes on sale for $120 on a regular basis)

https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-IP-DUO60-Multi-Functional-Pressure/dp/B00FLYWNYQ/

That's a 6-quart model; they also have a newer 8-quart model available, as well as a "smart" model with Bluetooth & some other sizes & models with different features. I rave about this device & if I could only pick one kitchen appliance to keep, this would be it because of it's versatility. I've had mine for a couple years & I'm still discovering new things to do with it!

For starters, the Instant Pot is what they call a third-gen EPC. The first-gen models were electric, had a locking lid, and a mechanical timer - pretty basic, but a nice upgrade from having to watch a pressure cooker on your stove (especially if you have a gas cooktop!). The second-gen models added some additional safety features, as well as a digital controller, so you could do a timer countdown, delayed cooking, etc. The third-gen models add a microchip with programming, which is where the 7-in-1 features come from.

So that lets you do things like soaking grains before cooking them or do a yogurt cycle with no manual intervention. With the Bluetooth model, you can actually custom-program your own cycles (note: I have the BT model & honestly don't really use that feature all that much, fwiw). With an EPC, you can basically control four things: (1) heating intensity, (2) temperature, (3) pressure, and (4) cooking duration, which allows you to cook a lot of different things in one machine. On a tangent, EPC's make excellent rice cookers...pressure-cooking can even make brown rice come out pretty good! I'll address rice cookers in another post (despite my IP doing a great job with rice, I usually use it for meat or veggies & have the rice cooking in my fuzzy-logic rice cooker).

One thing to keep in mind is that PC-cooking times are misleading. A recipe may say 20 minutes but it may be closer to 40 or 60 minutes. Basically, you have 3 cooking phases: (1) pressurization, (2) cooking, (3) pressure-release. When you start a recipe, it starts building up pressure, which can take up to 20 minutes depending on the quantity of food & liquid in the pot. Then it does the pressure cooking, and once it's done, you need to do a pressure release.

There are two types of pressure releases: quick & natural. The quick way is just to twist the valve on top of the lid & release the steam like a choo-choo train, but this can end up making certain things like meat dishes far less tender. Natural pressure release is basically just letting the machine come down to room pressure over time, say 20 minutes. The IP goes into a keep-warm mode after cooking anyway, so it will automatically do this if you ignore it. Lots of things can be quick-released, however, so it's good to know both methods!

As far as cleaning goes, here's a good guide:

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-clean-an-instant-pot-pressure-cooker-229334


What are some good accessories?

You can pick & choose as desired; all of these in total adds up to about $165. I have & use all of these items and they are well worth the investment.

1. Cooking spoon: ($25) Wooden spoons are cheap. Spatulas are nice. If you have a budget, this hybrid spoon (combination spoon-spatula) is the best thing since sliced bread. It's stupid expensive, but it's one of my go-to cooking utensils for scooping, stirring, scraping, etc. It's made of stiff nylon (temperature-proof up to 482F), but has a slightly-flexible silicone tip, which is what makes it unique.

2. Spare silicone ring: ($11) There is a silicone sealing ring that clips inside the lid. It absorbs smells. I would recommend getting one for pungent foods (like if you cook Indian food) & keeping a second for regular foods.

3. Glass lid: ($17) The IP has a keep-warm function, as well as a crockpot function (if you're in no rush to make the food), and this lid works great for both. When I finish cooking, sometimes I'll just bring the IP out as a food warmer with the lid on top so people can serve themselves.

4. Oven gloves: ($20 a pair) Same idea as oven mitts or pads, but with better finger control, which is useful for working with the lid (like releasing the pressure valve & picking up a hot lid) & for working with a hot pot (the inner pot can be removed if needed).

5. Steamer basket: ($14) Useful for steaming veggies as well as doing stuff hardboiled eggs & dulce de leche. This is the standard flower petal-style steamer basket. Silicone works fine too, if you want to do that.

6. Meat Claws: ($13) If you like to shred meat, these are awesome. I do a lot of pulled pork & shredded chicken and while you can do it with a fork (yay carpal tunnel!) or a mixer (hand or stand mixer), I like the results I get using the meat claws the most. Also, these are useful for picking up unwieldy stuff like alternator-sized beef because you can stab it like Wolverine & lift it out without touching the hot food :awe:

7. Immersion (stick) blender: ($42) Basically a blender on a stick; I'd recommend getting one that comes with a kit that has extras like a whisk attachment. The blender portion is really useful if you do soups; for example, you can cook up some sweet potatoes, slide the skins off, add some chicken broth, stick the immersion blender in there, and turn it into a bisque without ever leaving the original pot (one-pot cooking!). I use a Maillegro 9090 500-watt model, but it's not sold anymore. Epica has a 350-watt model that has good reviews.

8. 7" springform pan: ($22) Useful for a few things, but primarily for making cheesecakes. The springform design lets the sides pop apart, super feature.

9. Long metal tongs: Particularly useful when searing meat.

10. Spare Pot: (optional) Useful if you do stuff that uses the pot after cooking, like certain methods of yogurt-making.

What are some good recipes to try?

The list is endless. Kalua Pig is always my first recommendation. If you just want a basic pulled pork, try this recipe. Pork carnitas are great. Here's another carnitas recipe; this is my go-to recipe, but requires some oddball stuff (i.e. lard & bacon fat) - it's amaaaaaazing. To convert to the Instant Pot, basically just saute the pork chunks in the pot itself, then turn off saute mode & add the lard to let it liquify as it cools down. From there, pressure cook using the Meat/Stew setting for 40 minutes & do a 20-minute natural pressure release, then lay out the meat on a pan & broil in the oven on high for a few minutes per side until it's as crispy as you like. Here's a couple recipes for ribs (make them fall-off-the-bone soft in the IP & then broil in the oven with sauce on top).

If you like Chinese beef & broccoli, then you'll love this recipe for Mongolian beef. Check out bone broth sometime too. The cool thing for noodle dishes like spaghetti is that you can cook the noodles right along with the sauce, meat, and veggies! I like one-pot meals because it reduces cleanup & just makes life easier; here's a beef & macaroni recipe to that effect. You can do a ton of sauces with the IP as well; here's one for spaghetti sauce.

Note: pressure cookers are NOT pressure canners. However, you can do basic water-bath canning in an Instant Pot. Read more here on the differences. Beans are also amazing in the IP because you don't have to pre-soak them overnight. That means you can do stuff like chili with dry beans, no joke! I'm a huge fan of chickpeas & buy them dry in bulk. Here's my recipe for garlic-lime hummus. Also regarding steam, you can pressure-steam veggies mega-fast (steaming is a function of the IP), but also considering simply pressure-cooking them for more flavor.

Moving onto veggies & sides, corn on the cob only takes a couple minutes. Spaghetti squash is super easy. Hardboiled eggs are cake. I use the steam basket accessory linked above when I do hardboiled eggs. So many other things you can do...chicken, fish, noodles, macaroni & cheese, alfredo, rice, you name it.

You can do a LOT of stuff with yogurt - regular yogurt, Greek yogurt, non-dairy yogurts, fruit-on-the-bottom yogurts, etc. You can make yogurt in mason jars. Or just use the whole entire pot for a giant batch (note: #1, vanilla bean yogurt! #2, they use a nut milk bag to strain into Greek yogurt if you like it thicker & higher in protein). Here's a technique using dry milk powder. There's a good trick using a salad spinner for doing Greek Yogurt.

Oh yeah, and desserts! You can get fancy & do stuff like fruit extracts for homemade soda (sparkling/tonic/seltzer water or with an iSi whipper or a SodaStream). Cheesecakes come out awesome. Lots of variations, such as Oreo cheesecake. Or chocolate fondue with no fondue pot needed! Lemon creme pot custard. Dulce de leche (I mix mine with a second can of sweetened condensed milk to make it more creamy & pourable), which can also be done in a mason jar.

Plus super-fast compotes for pancakes & waffles, rice pudding, bread pudding, tapioca pudding, applesauce (highly recommend the immersion blender, makes it crazy easy!), etc. Anyway, that's just a small sliver of what the Instant Pot can do. I use mine for making meals fast (quick dinners) & also for doing meal prep (cooking in bulk for make-ahead meals). Pinterest has a huge number of recipes (search for pressure cooker, Instant Pot, electric pressure cooker as key terms). There are a bunch of Facebook groups as well, plus a couple sub-reddits over on Reddit.
 
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In lieu of a crockpot, you can use a gallon freezer bag and have better temperature control immersing it in water and using a suis vide cooker (I use my Anova). I'm not a huge crockpot fan, since the flavors all seem to blend together.
 

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In lieu of a crockpot, you can use a gallon freezer bag and have better temperature control immersing it in water and using a suis vide cooker (I use my Anova). I'm not a huge crockpot fan, since the flavors all seem to blend together.

Ooh, that's a good idea!

Crockpots can do that - blend all the flavors together - but blending is a good thing in a lot of recipes, and there are plenty of recipes that are more specific where you want the flavors to marinate together (rather than all of the parts of dinner, just a specific one like the protein or the side). I get a lot of recipes from Crockpot 365:

http://www.ayearofslowcooking.com/

Some more good recipes here:

http://www.thekitchn.com/23-delicious-slow-cooker-recipes-for-busy-weeknights-228472

But ever since getting an IP...why wait? Some of my recipes actually turn out better pressure-cooked than slow-cooked, haha. If you're a tinkerer in the kitchen, an IP is definitely worth looking into. I really enjoy mine. I use it in combination with my Anova all the time!
 

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What is the quietest but still good (e.g. vitamix, blendtec, etc?) blender?

Hmm. The good ones are like a horsepower or two, so they're pretty loud. I recently got the smaller Twister blender jar for my Blendtec & it reduced the noise level significantly over my stock Fourside jar - it's now just really loud instead of making me feel like I need to wear earplugs to use it. Which is annoying because I wake up really early (4am) & like to make smoothies & stuff and you can hear it throughout the house.

I know that Blendtec sells a commercial version of their blender that has a tilt-down hushbox; I've thought about building one (shouldn't be too hard, a simple wooden box lined with some peel & seal would probably do the trick) but haven't gotten around to it yet. Also regarding blenders, my long-term opinion is that Vita-mix has the edge for smoothies (they come out thicker) whereas Blendtec has the edge for overall blending & liquification (smoothies tend to come out more watery because everything has been disintegrated).

There are some other good contenders out there like the 1400-watt Oster Versa Pro, but if you're considering a serious blender, go with a Vitamix or Blendtec. I've had my Blendtec for ages & it's still going strong. It's nice having a solid kitchen tool that doesn't fall apart...I went through several cheapo blenders that all broke before investing in my Blendtec. Also, we have a pretty good smoothie thread over here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2416275

I recently got hooked on using cottage cheese in my smoothies (makes them thick & super high in protein, thanks CraKaJaX!). I do a lot of batters in mine too (pourable pizza batter, pancakes/waffles, popovers, etc.), as well as various sauces for different things (awesome for tomato-based sauces!). I use it to grind different flours from time to time as well, plus frozen drinks, ice cream bases, etc.

Anyway, I think the tradeoff you have to make is that power = noise. I use my smaller Twister jar in the morning for single-serving stuff like smoothies, which definitely reduces the noise, but it's still pretty dang loud. A DIY hushbox is probably the only way to really kill the noise.
 

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Champion Juicer:

This is the juicer I have:

https://www.amazon.com/Champion-Juicer-G5-PG710-BLACK-Commercial/dp/B000E4C53M

It's a horizontal masticating juicer. Here's a video on the different types of juicers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0TO8CfD-GY

The newer type (created in the time since I purchased mine) is a second-gen vertical auger slow juicer, which are supposed to be pretty dang good (like the SlowStar model), but I like mine for a reason I'll talk about in a minute. The Champion is basically equivalent to a Blendtec or Vitamix in terms of quality. I have the commercial version ($295 shipped in black, $30 more than the household version, just with better parts). These puppies tend to last forever. I bought it, used it for juicing for awhile, and shelved it until I discovered that it could do banana whip, which is basically soft-serve ice cream made entirely from frozen bananas: (healthy AND delicious!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7quoGMsP7Y

There's some competitors like the Yonanas machine (meh) & Omega (output is too thin for my tastes), and you can also make banana whip in a food processor, but it comes out lightyears better in the Champion. I have this stuff for breakfast sometimes with cinnamon & walnuts, it's awesome! As far as juicing goes, it does a great job. I planned on using it more than I do for juicing (I tend to do smoothies these days - you get all of the healthy fiber in a drinkable format, so +1 for health points there), but I mostly just use it for banana whip these days.

The two drinks I tend to make the most often are Wakeup Juice (5:1 carrot:apple, it's like ingesting liquid crack, straight sugar shot to your system haha) & Apple Schneider (apple-pear cider, basically just juice them with the skins on). Juicing tends to be a bit expensive, messy, and time-consuming...not terribly, but if you just want one 8-oz drink, it can end up costing as high as five or ten bucks depending on produce cost at the time, and you need to involve a liquid bowl, a roughage bowl for the dry remnants, a strainer, etc. I just do it next to my sink so I can clean everything off easily. One tip, before putting the blade on the motor, wipe the shaft with a paper towel & some vegetable oil so that it will slide off when you're doing juicing (otherwise the pressure can make it get stuck). Cleaning is pretty much just rinsing off the removable parts, so that goes pretty quick.

There are a lot of different juicers available. Wheatgrass is an entirely different animal that you usually get a dedicated machine for (some juicers have attachments for it, but the best ones are standalone juicers meant specifically for wheatgrass). Citrus juicers are also a bit nicer to use separately because they have a special blade that pokes into half of a citrus fruit so that you don't have to peel each one (more on that in a minute). That's not to say you can't juice in one of these, in fact, here's a video comparing a couple of machines & also a nice little knife technique for quickly peeling oranges for whole-fruit juicing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKtqcZIcfV8

For a lot more info on juicing in general, there are some good articles here:

http://www.discountjuicers.com/information.html

And some great in-depth videos here:

https://www.youtube.com/user/rawfoods/videos

There's also steam juicing, which is mostly used for canning, but that's a whole different conversation. Good intro article here:

http://www.discountjuicers.com/steamjuicer.html

Anyway, freshly-made juice is best consumed right when you make it to maximize the vitamins & crap that you put into your body, but it will last just fine in the fridge despite what the mega-health websites tell you. I use a small glass pitcher that has a sealed lid for storing juices: (you can get bigger & smaller sizes if needed; I like glass because it tends not to stain like plastic does...good luck getting orange stains from carrots out!)

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R0I4CUO/

As mentioned, I am more of a fan of blending than juicing because you get the fiber along with the flavor. However, juicing is still healthier than say drinking Mountain Dew all day, haha. There's a good documentary called Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead that's worth a watch if you have the time that talks about juicing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_MxCKKIgJI

They go a bit extreme & do juice fasts and stuff; having since gotten into IIFYM, blending smoothies, and so on, I prefer that route, but I still make juice from time to time, especially when stuff like apples are in the seasons at the pick-your-own orchards by where I live. So in a nutshell, juicers are nice if you like fresh juice & the Champion is extra-nice because you can make healthy ice cream using bananas (works for other fruit too, but bananas work best). This isn't what I'd consider an essential kitchen device like a quality blender or the Instant Pot because you need to really like homemade juice and/or banana whip to blow three hundred bucks on one of these puppies. But, they are nice to have if you have the need & budget for a good one!
 

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Epica Citrus Juicer:

$40 on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Epica-Powerful-Stainless-Whisper-quiet-Juicer-70/dp/B00DB8YMN4/

Does lemons, limes, oranges, etc. Absolutely fantastic design:

1. Chop the citrus fruit in half
2. Press half on top of the clear lid (pressure starts the motor, genius!) & hold until no more stuff is left inside the skin
3. The top piece acts as a strainer for the pulp
4. The bottom half acts as a reservoir for storing the juice
5. There's a flip-down spout that empties the reservoir when you're ready to fill up a cup with juice

It's stupid easy to use. You can buy a big bag of oranges, slice them in half, and make a bunch of juice in no time. The plastic reamers come in small & large, so can do small stuff like tangerines or bigger stuff like pomelos or grapefruits. If you don't like pulp, I'd also pick up a metal strainer to catch any extra pulp that made it through the reamer piece. Something like this would probably work great:

https://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-Fine-Stainless-Steel-Strainers/dp/B007TUQF9O/

I'd also recommend picking up a microplane (zester) because you can use the skin in a lot of recipes & it'd be a shame for that to go to waste! For the rest of the peel, I just throw it in my garbage disposal, makes it smell nicer hehe. One other handy tip is to use an ice cube tray to store lemon & lime juices (I use a silicone tray, which makes them easy to pop out once frozen). Once the cubes are frozen solid, dump them into a ziploc bag. A cube is usually roughly a tablespoon of juice & it usually takes about 7 oranges to fill up one tray. If you want to get hippie with it, you can make stuff like orange-infused vinegar for a natural cleaning product:

http://preparednessmama.com/freezing-fresh-squeezed-orange-juice/

On a tangent, lemons are crazy useful in the kitchen. Serious Eats has a bunch of articles on different stuff you can do with them, such as a no-cook syrup:

http://www.seriouseats.com/2016/03/how-to-make-fresh-lemon-syrup.html

Which can then be used in stuff like lemon whipped cream:

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2016/03/lemon-chantilly-recipe.html

Lemon bars:

http://www.seriouseats.com/2016/03/how-to-make-silky-lemon-bars.html

Preserved lemons:

http://www.seriouseats.com/2016/04/preserved-lemons-salt-cured-canning.html

Lemon sorbet:

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2012/03/rich-tart-lemon-sorbet-recipe.html

Lemonade: (also, try mint lemonade sometime, it's amazing!)

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2016/06/best-fresh-lemonade-recipe.html

On a tangent, fantastic article here about "key" limes:

http://www.seriouseats.com/2016/05/are-key-limes-worth-the-price.html

Anyway, as mentioned in the Champion juicer post, I don't juice a ton, but when I do, it's nice to have good tools available to get the job done. I buy in bulk from places like Sam's Club & local farmer's markets, which makes having fresh juice easy & also freezing it for different applications down the road. Oh one other thing that is pretty good, try mixing fizzy water (whatever you like, seltzer, tonic, etc.) with OJ, makes for a more-fun breakfast drink :thumbsup:
 

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Used the Phillips Pasta maker for the first time tonight, and made sausage ravioli, it was delicious.

Am impressed with the pasta maker, it works great.

Next step is to make spaghetti sauce with the instant pot.

https://youtu.be/1T4juBbZ1BY
 
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Instant Pot: Topics = slow cookers, crockpots, pressure cookers, and electric pressure cookers

This post is about the Instant Pot (IP), which is an EPC (electric pressure cooker). But first, some background. Crockpots (slow cookers) have been around for ages & are an easy way to make great-tasting food. They are also super cheap (I've seen them as low as $10). They typically have a low & high temperature setting & are designed to sit there & cook food automatically all day long. They come in various sizes & have various features; some of the newer ones have timers, keep-warm functions, temperature problems, and even remote control from your smartphone. Dump food in, wait a long time, yummy food comes out.

In parallel, there are also pressure cookers. These work by raising the boiling point of water using pressure & cooking the food faster. Same concept as a crockpot - just a fast cooker instead of a slow cooker. Another bonus is that because they're sealed, no steam is released so you get a little bit of a better flavor too. The problem with pressure cookers is that you have to babysit them & they have a history of blowing the lid off if you're not careful.

They now sell electric pressure cookers (EPC's), which operate at a lower pressure (11.6 PSI vs. say 15 PSI), but have more safety features built-in & don't require babysitting. Many of them also double as a slowcooker, so if you don't need your food in 20 minutes & would rather have it sit there & stew all day long, you can do that. My favorite EPC is the Instant Pot, specifically the latest 7-in-1 model: (goes on sale for $120 on a regular basis)

https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Pot-IP-DUO60-Multi-Functional-Pressure/dp/B00FLYWNYQ/

That's a 6-quart model; they also have a newer 8-quart model available, as well as a "smart" model with Bluetooth & some other sizes & models with different features. I rave about this device & if I could only pick one kitchen appliance to keep, this would be it because of it's versatility. I've had mine for a couple years & I'm still discovering new things to do with it!

For starters, the Instant Pot is what they call a third-gen EPC. The first-gen models were electric, had a locking lid, and a mechanical timer - pretty basic, but a nice upgrade from having to watch a pressure cooker on your stove (especially if you have a gas cooktop!). The second-gen models added some additional safety features, as well as a digital controller, so you could do a timer countdown, delayed cooking, etc. The third-gen models add a microchip with programming, which is where the 7-in-1 features come from.

So that lets you do things like soaking grains before cooking them or do a yogurt cycle with no manual intervention. With the Bluetooth model, you can actually custom-program your own cycles (note: I have the BT model & honestly don't really use that feature all that much, fwiw). With an EPC, you can basically control four things: (1) heating intensity, (2) temperature, (3) pressure, and (4) cooking duration, which allows you to cook a lot of different things in one machine. On a tangent, EPC's make excellent rice cookers...pressure-cooking can even make brown rice come out pretty good! I'll address rice cookers in another post (despite my IP doing a great job with rice, I usually use it for meat or veggies & have the rice cooking in my fuzzy-logic rice cooker).

One thing to keep in mind is that PC-cooking times are misleading. A recipe may say 20 minutes but it may be closer to 40 or 60 minutes. Basically, you have 3 cooking phases: (1) pressurization, (2) cooking, (3) pressure-release. When you start a recipe, it starts building up pressure, which can take up to 20 minutes depending on the quantity of food & liquid in the pot. Then it does the pressure cooking, and once it's done, you need to do a pressure release.

There are two types of pressure releases: quick & natural. The quick way is just to twist the valve on top of the lid & release the steam like a choo-choo train, but this can end up making certain things like meat dishes far less tender. Natural pressure release is basically just letting the machine come down to room pressure over time, say 20 minutes. The IP goes into a keep-warm mode after cooking anyway, so it will automatically do this if you ignore it. Lots of things can be quick-released, however, so it's good to know both methods!

As far as cleaning goes, here's a good guide:

http://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-clean-an-instant-pot-pressure-cooker-229334


What are some good accessories?

You can pick & choose as desired; all of these in total adds up to about $165. I have & use all of these items and they are well worth the investment.

1. Cooking spoon: ($25) Wooden spoons are cheap. Spatulas are nice. If you have a budget, this hybrid spoon (combination spoon-spatula) is the best thing since sliced bread. It's stupid expensive, but it's one of my go-to cooking utensils for scooping, stirring, scraping, etc. It's made of stiff nylon (temperature-proof up to 482F), but has a slightly-flexible silicone tip, which is what makes it unique.

2. Spare silicone ring: ($11) There is a silicone sealing ring that clips inside the lid. It absorbs smells. I would recommend getting one for pungent foods (like if you cook Indian food) & keeping a second for regular foods.

3. Glass lid: ($17) The IP has a keep-warm function, as well as a crockpot function (if you're in no rush to make the food), and this lid works great for both. When I finish cooking, sometimes I'll just bring the IP out as a food warmer with the lid on top so people can serve themselves.

4. Oven gloves: ($20 a pair) Same idea as oven mitts or pads, but with better finger control, which is useful for working with the lid (like releasing the pressure valve & picking up a hot lid) & for working with a hot pot (the inner pot can be removed if needed).

5. Steamer basket: ($14) Useful for steaming veggies as well as doing stuff hardboiled eggs & dulce de leche. This is the standard flower petal-style steamer basket. Silicone works fine too, if you want to do that.

6. Meat Claws: ($13) If you like to shred meat, these are awesome. I do a lot of pulled pork & shredded chicken and while you can do it with a fork (yay carpal tunnel!) or a mixer (hand or stand mixer), I like the results I get using the meat claws the most. Also, these are useful for picking up unwieldy stuff like alternator-sized beef because you can stab it like Wolverine & lift it out without touching the hot food :awe:

7. Immersion (stick) blender: ($42) Basically a blender on a stick; I'd recommend getting one that comes with a kit that has extras like a whisk attachment. The blender portion is really useful if you do soups; for example, you can cook up some sweet potatoes, slide the skins off, add some chicken broth, stick the immersion blender in there, and turn it into a bisque without ever leaving the original pot (one-pot cooking!). I use a Maillegro 9090 500-watt model, but it's not sold anymore. Epica has a 350-watt model that has good reviews.

8. 7" springform pan: ($22) Useful for a few things, but primarily for making cheesecakes. The springform design lets the sides pop apart, super feature.

9. Long metal tongs: Particularly useful when searing meat.

10. Spare Pot: (optional) Useful if you do stuff that uses the pot after cooking, like certain methods of yogurt-making.

What are some good recipes to try?

The list is endless. Kalua Pig is always my first recommendation. If you just want a basic pulled pork, try this recipe. Pork carnitas are great. Here's another carnitas recipe; this is my go-to recipe, but requires some oddball stuff (i.e. lard & bacon fat) - it's amaaaaaazing. To convert to the Instant Pot, basically just saute the pork chunks in the pot itself, then turn off saute mode & add the lard to let it liquify as it cools down. From there, pressure cook using the Meat/Stew setting for 40 minutes & do a 20-minute natural pressure release, then lay out the meat on a pan & broil in the oven on high for a few minutes per side until it's as crispy as you like. Here's a couple recipes for ribs (make them fall-off-the-bone soft in the IP & then broil in the oven with sauce on top).

If you like Chinese beef & broccoli, then you'll love this recipe for Mongolian beef. Check out bone broth sometime too. The cool thing for noodle dishes like spaghetti is that you can cook the noodles right along with the sauce, meat, and veggies! I like one-pot meals because it reduces cleanup & just makes life easier; here's a beef & macaroni recipe to that effect. You can do a ton of sauces with the IP as well; here's one for spaghetti sauce.

Note: pressure cookers are NOT pressure canners. However, you can do basic water-bath canning in an Instant Pot. Read more here on the differences. Beans are also amazing in the IP because you don't have to pre-soak them overnight. That means you can do stuff like chili with dry beans, no joke! I'm a huge fan of chickpeas & buy them dry in bulk. Here's my recipe for garlic-lime hummus. Also regarding steam, you can pressure-steam veggies mega-fast (steaming is a function of the IP), but also considering simply pressure-cooking them for more flavor.

Moving onto veggies & sides, corn on the cob only takes a couple minutes. Spaghetti squash is super easy. Hardboiled eggs are cake. I use the steam basket accessory linked above when I do hardboiled eggs. So many other things you can do...chicken, fish, noodles, macaroni & cheese, alfredo, rice, you name it.

You can do a LOT of stuff with yogurt - regular yogurt, Greek yogurt, non-dairy yogurts, fruit-on-the-bottom yogurts, etc. You can make yogurt in mason jars. Or just use the whole entire pot for a giant batch (note: #1, vanilla bean yogurt! #2, they use a nut milk bag to strain into Greek yogurt if you like it thicker & higher in protein). Here's a technique using dry milk powder. There's a good trick using a salad spinner for doing Greek Yogurt.

Oh yeah, and desserts! You can get fancy & do stuff like fruit extracts for homemade soda (sparkling/tonic/seltzer water or with an iSi whipper or a SodaStream). Cheesecakes come out awesome. Lots of variations, such as Oreo cheesecake. Or chocolate fondue with no fondue pot needed! Lemon creme pot custard. Dulce de leche (I mix mine with a second can of sweetened condensed milk to make it more creamy & pourable), which can also be done in a mason jar.

Plus super-fast compotes for pancakes & waffles, rice pudding, bread pudding, tapioca pudding, applesauce (highly recommend the immersion blender, makes it crazy easy!), etc. Anyway, that's just a small sliver of what the Instant Pot can do. I use mine for making meals fast (quick dinners) & also for doing meal prep (cooking in bulk for make-ahead meals). Pinterest has a huge number of recipes (search for pressure cooker, Instant Pot, electric pressure cooker as key terms). There are a bunch of Facebook groups as well, plus a couple sub-reddits over on Reddit.

For folks who like meat the easiest way I found to cook something delicious is corned beef brisket, preferably the point which actually has better marbling/fat-mix. The trick is to brown it before AND after a 60min cook, nothing else necessary other than immersing the meat, or if you prefer the steamed texture use a longer cook time. The mixed meat/fat near the tip is incredible, not quite burnt ends level but close enough for anything so simple.

For pork I prefer shoulder which has more gelatinizing tissue, also brown before/after for best results.

Ox-tail is awesome in about 40-50 depending on size, and stewing chicken in 30 actually comes out better than anything usually available in western grocers.
 

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Also, just FYI that there's a published hack to make the cuisinart cooker (or presumably any other electric) stabilize around 15psi. There's some funkiness that happens to eggs & such at the higher temp usually only available on the manual cookers. I got an extra one to test this but alas it sits in the garage alongside other victims of procrastination.
 

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Used the Phillips Pasta maker for the first time tonight, and made sausage ravioli, it was delicious.

Am impressed with the pasta maker, it works great.

Next step is to make spaghetti sauce with the instant pot.

https://youtu.be/1T4juBbZ1BY

I did finally get one of these, the "gen 2" model specific to Williams Sonoma. It's called the Smart pasta maker (includes a built-in scale & the full set of discs) & retails for $349, although it sometimes drops down to $299, plus there are usually deals floating around for 10/20/25% off, free shipping, etc., if you're in no rush to buy one:

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/philips-smart-pasta-maker/

I did a lot of research prior to investing in one, as they aren't cheap, but we do pasta on a regular basis at my house & I love my kitchen toys! Haha. The biggest negative review I found was from this Youtube video on the original model; having used the pasta maker a bunch of times now, it's pretty clear that the author wasn't using the right amount of liquid because the pasta is coming out weird & dry (also, I always clean out my machines immediately after use & don't let stuff build up in them because they were expensive, dangit!). I found a couple other food blogger reviews that were similar...they used it once or twice & gave up on it, without making much of an effort to nail down a good recipe. Probably the most balanced review I've read is from Food Republic; the key point being that making pasta by hand allows time for the gluten to relax, which makes a silkier noodle, which the machine doesn't do (which I'm guessing is because of the ratios the machine uses, waiting too long would allow the dough to dry out & clog up the machine). So far, however, my pasta has come out really good & I am happy with the machine. I have the Japanese discs coming in from eBay (they are not sold in the U.S.), hopefully they fit! I also got the cookie die kit, which looks like it probably makes crappy cookies, but I figured I'd give it a shot anyway because it may be useful for something down the road:

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/philips-cookie-die-kit/minipip.html

They do have a compact model available now as well, which has pretty good reviews:

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/philips-compact-pasta-maker/

The Smart model includes the following shaping discs: (full U.S. set)

1. Penne
2. Spaghetti
3. Fettuccini
4. Lasagna/dumpling
5. Angel hair (capelli d’angelo)
6. Thick spaghetti
7. Tagliatelle (flat noodles)
8. Pappadelle (wide ribbon-shaped pasta)

So it doesn't make everything under the sun (I'm married to an Italian; there are like five hundred types of pasta out there hahaha), but it does give you a lot of the common varieties, plus can do sheets that you can use in creative ways, like to make gyozas with a cookie cutter, and it is very easy to use, so if you want fresh pasta for dinner like tonight, it's a piece of cake. For those new to the machine, it's basically the bread machine equivalent for making homemade pasta. The Smart model incorporates 3 functions:

1. Weighing (for measurement)
2. Kneading
3. Extrusion

You start by adding the flour, which is measured by weight, then you select regular or egg noodles. From there, it tells you how much liquid you need. You can either do water, or an egg, or a couple eggs (or egg yolks or egg whites or whatever), as well as infusions like carrot juice (flavored pasta with an orange color & extra nutrition!). It then kneads the dough & automatically starts to push it out (extrude) through the plate you selected, then it's up to you to cut off the length you want. I am experimenting with home-milled flour as well (from wheat berries) to see how that works from an edibility, food storage, and cost-savings POV. From a recurring usage perspective, it is a little bit of a hassle to use:

1. Lots of bits & pieces to disassemble, clean, and reassemble. It reminds me of a juicer...the cleaning & (dis)assembly is a hassle & takes longer to do than actually making the food/drink lol.

2. You have to use a specific order for the scale...the scale activates as soon as you plug it in, so don't add flour until then. You cannot move the machine once the unit is plugged in, otherwise it will throw off the scale. If you do accidentally add flour first, you have to disassemble everything to get it out. Make sure the pieces you need are assembled first so they don't get weighed as raw material measurements when you add them on.

3. Cleaning certain parts like the extrusion discs are a huge pain because the pasta dries out quick & gets hard. They include a little tool for prying it out, but it's almost better to let the dough get rock-hard & then scrape it off in chunks than to try to do it while the dough is still pliable.

With that said, it does allow you to easily make fresh pasta whenever you want it. I've done it with regular all-purpose flour & with semolina durum flour, as well as with & without egg successfully. It cooks up pretty quickly too (it's supposed to be 2 minutes for fresh pasta, but I've found it to be more like 5 minutes). I'll occasionally bag some up & give them as gifts to friends and the response has been pretty good, people seem to love fresh pasta. I have not tried doing infused pasta yet (herbs/veggie juices/etc.), but it's on my list. If you're a gadget geek, you can sous vide up some super-moist chicken to pair with your noodles, or throw the noodles into a meat & sauce dish right in your Instant Pot for an ultra-fresh dinner.

Although this is more or less a first-generation device, I'm not sure how much easier they can make it due to the pasta-making process; it's going to require a few parts & it's going to require some cleanup. Maybe someone can figure out how to streamline it further down the road, but again, the current models are like using a juicer...cleanup is involved. Also, you should consider the economics of pasta. My local grocery store has a 10 for $10 sale all the time on boxed pasta. Even if you get it on sale and for 25% off and with free shipping and what have you, that's still equivalent to over 200 boxes of pasta, so depending on how often you eat pasta, it may or may not be worth it to you. I would also consider looking at the compact "for two" model, which is (currently) half the price of the big one & has equally good reviews; the demo on HSN looks pretty good:

 

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So GE has a lab called FirstBuild where they make interesting products. Their current lineup includes the Opal Nugget Ice Maker (think Sonic Ice) and the Paragon induction hotplate system (monitors the pot temp for precision cooking). They just unveiled the Precision Bakeware concept, which alerts you through a mobile app when your baked goods reach their ideal temperature:

https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/11/ge-appliances-unveils-smart-bakeware/

This has the potential to be pretty cool if they do a good job on appliance & app integration (because you can already do the same idea with something like a Fireboard). I've gotten a lot more into precision cooking over the past year; I use an instant-read thermometer & IR temp gun for most of my projects these days, which has greatly improved my results - which even includes things like measuring the internal temperature of bread before pulling it out of the oven. Much easier to get perfect results through accurate temperature readings!
 

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Was there a different version of this thread w/ other kitchen gadgets? I seem to recall an ice maker...
 

Kaido

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Was there a different version of this thread w/ other kitchen gadgets? I seem to recall an ice maker...

There's a freezer one here:

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/freezer-storage-discussion-thread.2491122/

I'm just getting back this week from being on the road, so I'll see if I can update stuff, especially over Thanksgiving break.

What are you looking for in terms of an ice maker? I have an Opal, which is awesome if you like pellet ice. I used to have a regular ice maker off Amazon before that.
 

Ns1

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I have an Opal, which is awesome if you like pellet ice

YES, but I think you mentioned this in another thread? That's the one I'm trying to find.

My ice maker is broken so I figure I might as well buy a better ice maker.
 

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YES, but I think you mentioned this in another thread? That's the one I'm trying to find.

My ice maker is broken so I figure I might as well buy a better ice maker.

This is the Opal nugget ice maker:

https://firstbuild.com/products/opal/

I'm sure there's a post around here somewhere, but here's my latest review:

1. The Opal is stupid expensive. We need to get that out of the way first. I got it on cheaper on Kickstarter, but it's currently $500 retail. Regular standalone ice makers go for about $90 on Amazon. However, that price is relative to buying a commercial nugget ice maker. Scott's nugget ice machine is the famous one (Sonic ice) & goes for $4,000. You can sometimes find used pellet ice machines on eBay (ex. a Hoshizaki from a hospital) for under $2,000, but the Opal is actually designed for home use, so it's a better place to put your money (that is, if you're going to go big & actually spend the money). This is one of my few "luxury items" that I own (some people buy Porsches...I bought a nugget ice machine. lol).

2. It is a really excellent machine. It makes soft pellet ice, meaning you can chew it. My family loves it. Great for teething babies. Great for cold ice. Great for cold water, cold drinks, making wannabe slushies, etc. I don't even know how many pounds of ice we go through in a day, but it's a lot! My family brings giant cups every time they visit so they can fill up lol. It's exactly like the Sonic ice, although at this point I'd say a bit better because it's easier to chew, if you like to chew ice.

3. If you are particular about things, you will love this machine. I hesitate to say picky because that doesn't have the right connotation. By particular I mean that you appreciate small, seemingly insignificant things. In this case, the Opal ice gets your water down to perfect sippable temperature in like 30 seconds. It's like the most refreshing drink you'll ever drink. One of my big health goals was to drink more water and this machine makes it easy because ever single sip is refreshing. If you're not a 'particular' person, then that whole paragraph sounds crazy, but I don't mean it in an OCD way. It's like when you drink an ice-cold Aquafina or Dasani on a hot day or after an intense workout and it's just aaaaaaaamazing when you drink it (vs. like a store-brand water bottle that just tastes like plastic). The Opal makes your water like that every. single. time. I'm drinking one right now in fact, hahaha.

4. Corn syrup-based sodas work better in it because the ice melts more quickly than regular large ice cubes. Not that it disappears entirely quickly, but the water mixes in faster & dilutes the flavor. My favorite soda is probably those glass-bottled Mexican Sprites made with real sugar, but they get too watered-down, so the regular plastic-bottle corn syrup American versions work better.

5. It has a refill basin that you fill up manually. I moved it to the left of my sink. I have a sprayer head in my kitchen sink, so I just pull on it, aim it in the basin, and fill it up. I have to refill it several times a day; I wish they made an attachment kit. Not a biggie because it's routine now, but that would be more convenient.

6. Cleaning is easy, you can put it into cleaning mode via the smartphone app (yes, it has a smartphone app). Just run a little bit of bleach through it & drain it, and use a clean, soft sponge to wipe up the basin & ice jar. No maintenance other than that.

7. It is noisy. Which is semi-okay because it lives in my kitchen, but I mean, it's almost like having a swamp cooler in the other room, in terms of noise. It becomes background noise eventually.

8. We have a bunch of double-insulated vacuum-sealed cups (Ozark from Walmart, they're exact YETI knockoffs for waaaaaay cheaper). They keep the ice from melting all day. I have a 20oz tumbler for drinking, $7 at Walmart:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-20-Ounce-Double-Wall-Vacuum-Sealed-Tumbler/178742177

I also have a 64oz I use for refills, $15 at Walmart:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Double-Wall-Stainless-Steel-Water-Bottle/131683847

I fill both with ice & water before I leave for work. I also keep a 30oz in my car, $10 at Walmart:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-30-Ounce-Double-Wall-Vacuum-Sealed-Tumbler/171452737

It actually makes you look forward to water because you have great nugget ice which keeps the water temp perfect & cups that keep the ice from melting. Again, that sounds awfully specific, but I like it & it helps me drink a lot of water during the day. I had a standalone ice machine before that, and while it worked perfectly, it just didn't do it for me...the ice was just meh. That sounds extremely first-world problemish, lol. My current fridge has an ice maker, which makes giant ice that slips down & hits you in the nose when you drink from your cup, plus even with a new carbon filter, it just makes the water taste bad, so tap water + Opal nugget ice wins out for me.

The TL;DR is that it's expensive but awesome. Be aware that it is enormous, heavy, has to be refilled manually, and is noisy. But none of that will matter because you have glorious nugget ice on demand :D
 

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man I love nugget ice but I don't know if I $440 love nugget ice.
 

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man I love nugget ice but I don't know if I $440 love nugget ice.

Yeah, and I don't think it will ever pay for itself. Sonic only charges like a buck for a huge bag of ice in the drive-thru.
 

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Is this thread only for smaller kitchen appliances ? I would like to inquire aabout major appliances, namely full size electric induction cooktops. seriously considering getting one and would like to know if any members here have one and if they like it.
 

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induction is the way to go if you don't have gas available. We have gas, but have used induction and its much better than halogen or resistive elements. look for high end stuff on craigslist or similar, we buy our majors used and have gotten great, high end stuff that is barely used.
 

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It's a neat machine; I've been keeping an eye on it for a few months now. Die-hard cheesemakers laugh at it, as you can do a lot of stuff manually yourself pretty easily, but from my experience with appliances, anything you can do to make it easier to do what you want to do or have to do is a plus, which is why I have an Instant Pot, Sous Vide, Deep Freezer, etc.

I don't think I'll be buying the cheese machine personally tho. Partly because I have a Whole Foods within driving range & they have a fantastic assortment of cheeses available. I only really got into cheese within the past few years...never understood cheese platters or anything prior, until a friend introduced me to some legit, actually-good cheeses. Most are kind of meh, but some are just outstanding.

At any rate, nice to see progress being made on more home-based appliances using smaller scales of what the big boys use!