Kindle on a plane

[preslove]

FWIW, one of the first questions Garmin International technical support will ask if you report an intermittent failure of one of their aviation GPS Navs is, "Did anyone in the plane not turn off their iPhone?" Cellphone interference with GPS in aircraft is a documented problem, in part because as the aircraft gains altitude the cellphone ramps up its transmitter power to maintain contact with the increasingly distant cell towers. Spurious emissions in the GPS frequency band increase at the same rate as the nominal cell frequency.

Airplane mode would prevent this, correct?

 

[Blackjack200]

However there is more talk about not wanting to disturb your fellow travellers over any safety issue that the cell phone would cause.

Eh, I'm against cell phones in movie theatres trains etc., but on a plane with a jet engine droning? I don't think it would bother me much. Either way, you could at least let people send text messages...

 

[MotionMan]

You seem to be the only one who actually got my point so far The Kindle IS OFF when it's doing nothing but displaying a page. I'm happy to turn off my electronic devices, but telling me to "turn off" a Kindle is just stupid.

Maybe not all stewardesses have been briefed on the inner-workings of each and every possible electronic device they may encounter.

Their job is to make sure that all such devices are off and they rightfully err on the side of being overly strict about it. (There are other times when they are purposely being a bitch, but that is another thread.)

If the flight was long enough that the staff has time to sit, you could have approached her and discuss the situation with her, calmly and without being condescending.

When all else fails, cut them some slack and wait 5 minutes to start reading again.

MotionMan

 

[skyking]

OP, you are doing it right! Turn the kindle off in the plane, cry here. Keep up the good work.

 

[Lifted]

The issue with electronic devices during takeoff and landing has to do with the facts that

A) There is no way for the flight attendants to know what does and does not have a radio in it.

B) More importantly, they want people paying attention and listening to announcements, not listening to music on their headphones. It's the same reason they turn off the seat back entertainment units during take off and landing. If there is an emergency, the flight attendants aren't going to walk around, tap you on the shoulder, and say "sir, please brace for impact".

 

[classy]

Die painfully.

When its off, that means the screen is blank.........................


























































Pussy

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

When its off, that means the screen is blank.........................

That makes as much sense as telling someone to turn off their novel so there's nothing on the pages. Educate yourself.

 

[Drako]

Educate yourself.

From the Kindle User's guide, which apparently you have failed to read:


"Power switch — puts your Kindle to sleep, wakes it up, and turns your Kindle on or off. The
power switch is located just to the right of the micro-USB/power port. To put your Kindle to
sleep, slide and release the power switch; the screensaver appears on the display. While your
Kindle is asleep, other keys and buttons are locked so that you don’t accidentally change the
place in your reading. For Kindle with Special Offers, the center of the 5-way controller is not
locked while your Kindle is asleep. To turn your Kindle off, slide and hold the power switch
for seven seconds until the screen goes blank and then release. To wake up or turn on your
Kindle, slide and release the power switch again. If you have set up a device password, you
will be prompted to enter the password after turning on your Kindle or waking it from sleep."

 

[classy]

From the Kindle User's guide, which apparently you have failed to read:


"Power switch — puts your Kindle to sleep, wakes it up, and turns your Kindle on or off. The
power switch is located just to the right of the micro-USB/power port. To put your Kindle to
sleep, slide and release the power switch; the screensaver appears on the display. While your
Kindle is asleep, other keys and buttons are locked so that you don’t accidentally change the
place in your reading. For Kindle with Special Offers, the center of the 5-way controller is not
locked while your Kindle is asleep. To turn your Kindle off, slide and hold the power switch
for seven seconds until the screen goes blank and then release. To wake up or turn on your
Kindle, slide and release the power switch again. If you have set up a device password, you
will be prompted to enter the password after turning on your Kindle or waking it from sleep."

LOL :thumbsup:

 

[yh125d]

Again, flight attendant doing her job. The laws are silly and stupid though. Commercial devices are required by the FCC to never send harmful signals and to receive all harmful transmissions. Period.

Still, there is someone who wrote the law with the fear that some electronic device may interfere with the planes electronics and cause a problem. Probably the same person who thought a cell phone used at a gas station could cause a fire when there has never been an incident, it is a physical impossibility, and was proven impossible on myth busters at least.

Mythbusters: Influencing American law and policy since 2003

 

[Zargon]

From the Kindle User's guide, which apparently you have failed to read:


"Power switch — puts your Kindle to sleep, wakes it up, and turns your Kindle on or off. The
power switch is located just to the right of the micro-USB/power port. To put your Kindle to
sleep, slide and release the power switch; the screensaver appears on the display. While your
Kindle is asleep, other keys and buttons are locked so that you don’t accidentally change the
place in your reading. For Kindle with Special Offers, the center of the 5-way controller is not
locked while your Kindle is asleep. To turn your Kindle off, slide and hold the power switch
for seven seconds until the screen goes blank and then release. To wake up or turn on your
Kindle, slide and release the power switch again. If you have set up a device password, you
will be prompted to enter the password after turning on your Kindle or waking it from sleep."

that quality shit right there!!

 

[tyler811]

Same thing happened with me on my flight from NY to ATL. There i was minding my own business listening to my Zune 120 gb with wireless off and the stewardess comes by and say please turn off all electronic devices and wait until we take off. I hit the pause button waited till she walked away then continued listening, same thing happened one more time finally i just shut it off so she would fuck off... Flight attendants can be such bitches. What, you think I want to blow up the plane?

You and the dumbass OP shut it down for a few minutes and STFU. What makes you so special you are above the rules. As stupid as it seems just do it and stop being a dick to the stewardess she has enough pricks to deal with.

 

[tyler811]

The issue with electronic devices during takeoff and landing has to do with the facts that

A) There is no way for the flight attendants to know what does and does not have a radio in it.

B) More importantly, they want people paying attention and listening to announcements, not listening to music on their headphones. It's the same reason they turn off the seat back entertainment units during take off and landing. If there is an emergency, the flight attendants aren't going to walk around, tap you on the shoulder, and say "sir, please brace for impact".

FTW /end thread

 

[Duder1no]

ha i had the same dilemma with my iPhone, had it in airplane mode so there is no fucking way that is causes any interference with the plane's electronics but at the last moment decided to turn it off to avoid this type of situations

 

[Duder1no]

Airplane mode would prevent this, correct?

correct

 

[GoSharks]

Not the same thing. During take off and landing you are not allowed to have headphones on. Some stupid thing about being able to hear during (or even before) an emergency.

MotionMan

Actually I'm pretty sure you can have headphones on. Headphones with sound coming out of them is a different story.

 

[olds]

I thought it was a Federal regulation that electronic devices had to be off or in the "airplane" setting during takeoff and landing.

Every flight I have been on they say to turn it completely off. I've heard SW say even if in Airplane mode.

 

[crab]

At least stuff it away for that few precious minutes of your infinitely important life so it's not a fucking projectile if something DOES happen.

To add - my wife's Kindle has never had an effect on our airplane's radios and instruments but the iPhones and iPad most certainly do and we make sure to shut it off (airplane mode). I'm sure you've all heard the noise certain cell phones make when near speakers or in your car? It does the same thing over the COM radios in ours and a brand new G1000 equipped 172SP I've borrowed. I've seen the VOR needle twitch in accordance with the noise.

I'll get this videotaped someday. I've started using my iPad as a kind of kneepad deal, and gotta remember to pop it into airplane mode because you'll likely hear it nice and loud if it TX or RX.

 

[grrl]

A rant worthy of Trident's scroll.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

A rant worthy of Trident's scroll.

 

[ussfletcher]

Again, flight attendant doing her job. The laws are silly and stupid though. Commercial devices are required by the FCC to never send harmful signals and to receive all harmful transmissions. Period.

Still, there is someone who wrote the law with the fear that some electronic device may interfere with the planes electronics and cause a problem. Probably the same person who thought a cell phone used at a gas station could cause a fire when there has never been an incident, it is a physical impossibility, and was proven impossible on myth busters at least.

Its because with a few modifications you can make it interfere with the planes electronics, all while still allowing it to appear stock... there are some crazy fucks out there, you never know wtf someone is going to do, so its best to turn them all off.

 

[jersiq]

ha i had the same dilemma with my iPhone, had it in airplane mode so there is no fucking way that is causes any interference with the plane's electronics but at the last moment decided to turn it off to avoid this type of situations

You had your spectrum analyzer right next to you to verify that the phone wasn't transmitting?

 

[Joemonkey]

Its because with a few modifications you can make it interfere with the planes electronics, all while still allowing it to appear stock... there are some crazy fucks out there, you never know wtf someone is going to do, so its best to turn them all off.

bullshit, citation needed here

 

[twinrider1]

...Just stop being an a-hole and turn it off..

wtf is it that fucking hard for you assholes to follow simple directions? ...

This is like the checkout person asking an obviously of-age person for his i.d. when buying beer. Some morons would rather argue about it for 15 minutes instead of taking the 5 seconds it takes to show their i.d.

STFU and do what you're told.

 

[CallMeJoe]

Airplane mode would prevent this, correct?

From Apple:

If you turn on airplane mode, the wireless features of iPhone are disabled, and if allowed by the aircraft operator and applicable laws and regulations, you can continue to use the non-wireless features after takeoff.

While the legality of Airplane Mode operation still appears to be in question, if implemented as stated, Airplane Mode should prevent interference with aircraft equipment. Of course, every feature on an iPhone works exactly as advertised, right?