Kindergartner's peanut allergy infuriates some school parents

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

 

[imported_Tomato]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

I stand corrected. I was loosely quoting "digitalsm".

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

Show me a law that REQUIRES "public education".

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

The law requires it, but the school can expel a child. So it is not a "right."

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

Show me a law that REQUIRES "public education".

What are TRUANCY laws? It doesn't REQUIRE "public education" it requires EDUCATION and since the PARENTS ARE PAYING FOR PUBLIC education, than it is their RIGHT.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

Show me a law that REQUIRES "public education".

What are TRUANCY laws? It doesn't REQUIRE "public education" it requires EDUCATION and since the PARENTS ARE PAYING FOR PUBLIC education, than it is their RIGHT.

Then why can a school expel a child?

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

the ADA does not give the school carte blanche to do whatever they hell they want. It provides for the makings of reasonable accomodations. The school is doing that already by hiring a 30hr/week "nurse". It does provide for unlimited accomodations regardless of the impact upon other students.

Well then these parents should sue saying that the school is overstepping the bounds. I would bet they would lose. Banning peanuts is no way unreasonable.

Again, I guess you have no idea how many foods have at least trace amounts of peanuts and peanut oil in them, do you?

Peanuts are a food staple. Literally thousands of products have peanuts in them. Banning such a basic and cost effectve food staple is extremely unreasonable.

Yes there are hundreds or thousands of items that have peanuts or peanut oil in them. However, most are items that shouldnt be in school lunchs anyways.

It may appear they are going overboard, but In a court of law, they would not lose.

The ways the laws are currently set up the only solution, other than what they are doing, that would work, legally, is if the school district paid for private schooling of this kid until jr high.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

The law requires it, but the school can expel a child. So it is not a "right."

You are going to tell me the govt can FORCE me to send my children to school, FORCE me to pay for the schools and then it is a FVCKING PRIVILEGE for me to send my child to the school i FVCKING HELP PAY FOR. FVCK THAT. it's my RIGHT to send my children to that school and unless my child rapes or kills someone he will CONTINUE to attend that FVCKING SCHOOL

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

The law requires it, but the school can expel a child. So it is not a "right."

You are going to tell me the govt can FORCE me to send my children to school, FORCE me to pay for the schools and then it is a FVCKING PRIVILEGE for me to send my child to the school i FVCKING HELP PAY FOR. FVCK THAT. it's my RIGHT to send my children to that school and unless my child rapes or kills someone he will CONTINUE to attend that FVCKING SCHOOL

Um, nope. If your child becomes a constant disruption, the school system can expel them.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

Show me a law that REQUIRES "public education".

What are TRUANCY laws? It doesn't REQUIRE "public education" it requires EDUCATION and since the PARENTS ARE PAYING FOR PUBLIC education, than it is their RIGHT.

Then why can a school expel a child?

Prison denys prisoners CERTAIN RIGHTS. we maintain a system of laws in order to PROTECT the rights of many and sometimes at the cost of the few. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY AREN'T RIGHTS.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

Show me a law that REQUIRES "public education".

What are TRUANCY laws? It doesn't REQUIRE "public education" it requires EDUCATION and since the PARENTS ARE PAYING FOR PUBLIC education, than it is their RIGHT.

That is the distinction I was trying to make between "public education" and EDUCATION. There is a big difference. And as Amused has pointed out, since a school can take away the child's ability to attend the school, it is not a right, it is a privilege to attend "public education". There is a difference between public education and education. I was trying to point this out to Dezign.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

the ADA does not give the school carte blanche to do whatever they hell they want. It provides for the makings of reasonable accomodations. The school is doing that already by hiring a 30hr/week "nurse". It does provide for unlimited accomodations regardless of the impact upon other students.

Well then these parents should sue saying that the school is overstepping the bounds. I would bet they would lose. Banning peanuts is no way unreasonable.

Again, I guess you have no idea how many foods have at least trace amounts of peanuts and peanut oil in them, do you?

Peanuts are a food staple. Literally thousands of products have peanuts in them. Banning such a basic and cost effectve food staple is extremely unreasonable.

Yes there are hundreds or thousands of items that have peanuts or peanut oil in them. However, most are items that shouldnt be in school lunchs anyways.

It may appear they are going overboard, but In a court of law, they would not lose.

The ways the laws are currently set up the only solution, other than what they are doing, that would work, legally, is if the school district paid for private schooling of this kid until jr high.

Jr high? BS. Isolate the kid with the other special needs kids until 4th or 5th grade at the latest. By then they should have enough maturity to avoid peanut products on their own.

BTW, you'd be surprised how many products have peanuts or trace amounts in them.

As I siad before, this type of policy has been shot down more often than it has been passed.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: CPA
That is the distinction I was trying to make between "public education" and EDUCATION. There is a big difference. And as Amused has pointed out, since a school can take away the child's ability to attend the school, it is not a right, it is a privilege to attend "public education". There is a difference between public education and education. I was trying to point this out to Dezign.

Wrong.

Just because the school has a system of rules to protect the rights of Individuals and when one individual breaks a rule he is then deprived of access to that school it does not negate the fact that the child HAD a RIGHT to access to that school.

INDIVIDUALS CAN FORFEIT FREEDOMS but that does not mean those FREEDOMS ARE NOT RIGHTS.

 

[CPA]

PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privilege to public education.

Thats why I said "right". See, its not really a privilege, nor is it a right.

They cant revoke a child going to public school unless the child has poor behavior. You CAN NOT force a child out of a public school because he has an allergy, that is discrimination. You CAN revoke the "right", "privilege" or whatever if the child is unruly and ill behaved, however even then the school district has to have an alternative program for those students.

Its either the school makes changes for this student, or they pay for this student to go to private school. They can not force the child out of the school and they cant just not make accomodations for the student, doing so would make them liable if something did happen.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

Show me a law that REQUIRES "public education".

There is a law that requires schooling up to the age of 16. Every child has the option of public school, and the school is required to make accomodations for them. A public school can not force a student out of the system, except for behavior problems, and even then they have to setup an alternative system for the student.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Dezign

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

Every child DOES have the "right" to a public education. This, however, does not mean the public education system has the right to upset the situation for every other student and family for the special and specific needs of one student.

The mandate that every child has the "right" to a public educationis not inflexible. There is room for adaptation, negotiation, and argument.

Very few people take responsibility in this country. It's always up to everyone else to change, conform, and accomodate for you and yours. I do not think it is fair for the lives of 600 families to be affected because of the needs of one child.

This isn't the say I don't have sympathy for the kid... his situation is sad and unfortunate, and I hope he does successfully avoid peanuts to live a long, happy, healthy life.

Every child DOES NOT have the "right", they have the privelage to public education.

i'm not sure i'd call it a "right" but i know i wouldn't call it a "privilege" as the law REQUIRES IT.

Nothing that is REQUIRED can truly be called a "privilege".

Show me a law that REQUIRES "public education".

What are TRUANCY laws? It doesn't REQUIRE "public education" it requires EDUCATION and since the PARENTS ARE PAYING FOR PUBLIC education, than it is their RIGHT.

That is the distinction I was trying to make between "public education" and EDUCATION. There is a big difference. And as Amused has pointed out, since a school can take away the child's ability to attend the school, it is not a right, it is a privilege to attend "public education". There is a difference between public education and education. I was trying to point this out to Dezign.

Yes they can take away the ability to attend normal public school, for certain reasons. Having a severe allergic reaction to peanuts is not one of those reasons. Forcing this child out of public school would be discrimination, unless the school district paid for alterntive schooling.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

There have been many cases where public school districts have paid for students private schooling for one reason or another.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

They only isolate mentally handicapped people, and the reason they isolate them is because the learn at a much slower pace. Huge freaking difference.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

They only isolate mentally handicapped people, and the reason they isolate them is because the learn at a much slower pace. Huge freaking difference.

What do they do with kids who suffer from Xeroderma Pigmentosa? (Allergic to sunlight)

Like I said before, would they cover all the windows in the class rooms and blot out the sun? Of course not. I see this as no different. They can isolate the child in school, or pay for private schooling. Either way, they do not have the right tolimit the freedoms of the other kids and their parents.

 

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Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

They only isolate mentally handicapped people, and the reason they isolate them is because the learn at a much slower pace. Huge freaking difference.

What do they do with kids who suffer from Xeroderma Pigmentosa? (Allergic to sunlight)

Like I said before, would they cover all the windows in the class rooms and blot out the sun? Of course not. I see this as no different. They can isolate the child in school, or pay for private schooling. Either way, they do not have the right tolimit the freedoms of the other kids and their parents.

Isolating the student would be the most costly option, what they are doing now is the second most costly option. Private schooling would be the cheapest option, however you will have these same people bitching about it even though its roughly the same cost as public schooling, sometimes cheaper.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

They only isolate mentally handicapped people, and the reason they isolate them is because the learn at a much slower pace. Huge freaking difference.

What do they do with kids who suffer from Xeroderma Pigmentosa? (Allergic to sunlight)

Like I said before, would they cover all the windows in the class rooms and blot out the sun? Of course not. I see this as no different. They can isolate the child in school, or pay for private schooling. Either way, they do not have the right tolimit the freedoms of the other kids and their parents.

Isolating the student would be the most costly option, what they are doing now is the second most costly option. Private schooling would be the cheapest option, however you will have these same people bitching about it even though its roughly the same cost as public schooling, sometimes cheaper.

Fine. Do wahtever it takes to allow the other kids a normal life. There is no reason they should be denied that because of this kid's problems.

Actually, if I had my way, there would be no public school systems and this argument would be moot.

 

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I think that the public school has a responsibility to keep the peanut-allergic student safe, which includes trying to reduce the possibility of exposure to peanuts as much as possible. Peanut allergies can be life threatening very quickly. It's one of the most severe allergies, and for this reason, peanuts are the only food that specialists in allergies recommend that pregnant mothers avoid.

For those people who say that the child should be home-schooled, are they willing to have the public school give up funds to pay for the home-schooling? Not everyone can afford either the time or money to home-school their child.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Lucky

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Dezign
It is the parents' responsibility to make adjustments, not the rest of the world's.

Actually, it is the duty of the state and the school to make a safe learning enviorment for all children. Throw in the Americans with Disability Act, and well its up to the school to make arrangements, not the parents. Every child has the "right" to a public education, its up the the schools to make adjustments.

the ADA does not give the school carte blanche to do whatever they hell they want. It provides for the makings of reasonable accomodations. The school is doing that already by hiring a 30hr/week "nurse". It does provide for unlimited accomodations regardless of the impact upon other students.

Well then these parents should sue saying that the school is overstepping the bounds. I would bet they would lose. Banning peanuts is no way unreasonable.

Again, I guess you have no idea how many foods have at least trace amounts of peanuts and peanut oil in them, do you?

Peanuts are a food staple. Literally thousands of products have peanuts in them. Banning such a basic and cost effectve food staple is extremely unreasonable.

Yes there are hundreds or thousands of items that have peanuts or peanut oil in them. However, most are items that shouldnt be in school lunchs anyways.

It may appear they are going overboard, but In a court of law, they would not lose.

The ways the laws are currently set up the only solution, other than what they are doing, that would work, legally, is if the school district paid for private schooling of this kid until jr high.

So, where did you earn your law degree?