Kindergartner's peanut allergy infuriates some school parents

[imported_Tomato]

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts

Originally posted by: KK
Send the kid to france. They have no peanuts over there. Atleast not alot.

KK

Yeah, but he would die on the airplane flight over

Okay, that made me smile... thanks for the comic relief... 😛😀

I :heart: honey roasted peanuts.

 

[SpiderX]

I know at one school there was a teacher who was allergic to Oranges. Basically if she even got a whiff of one she would die. So the school banned oranges. Confiscated them right off the bat if anyone brought any.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
heres an idea, he is not allowed to go anywhere except the class room, or he can live in a bubble. wtf is gonna hapen to him when he grows up,

"Hi guys, want to go to lunch?"
"Sure new friend, how about we go grab some pizza"
"Umm, I can't eat anything with peanuts or touch peanuts or anything like that"
"OK, well where do you want to eat?"
"I can't really eat anywhere"
"well sucks to be you, CYA"

 

[Skunk]

Sure it is. She's susceptible to the same risks as kids who are allergic to peanuts are. She can get very sick just by coming into contact with the sulfur variety. Why is a kid with peanut allergies entitled to a safer environment than she is? I understand what you're saying and im not comparing peanuts with meds. Obviously medication is more important than peanuts. Parents with kids on antibiotics still have the option of keeping their kids home while their sick. Im not asking for that nor expecting it; but that's what these parents are in essence asking. Like i said 2x previously it's just gonna get worse and wont stop with just nuts, its everything nut related.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused
If you or your child has an allergy, YOU must conform to the world. You cannot expect the world to conform to you.

I have many allergies. Granted none are life threatening, but some are very unpleasent. You will never see me dictating how someone may live or act outside the confines of my property.

Exactly! This is a complete non-issue to me. The school should NOT have to conform to this kid's allergy. I have a severe allergy to bees and If I get stung I HAVE to immediately go to the hospital. The doctor said if I get stung again I have to carry around an Epi shot. Because of this I avoid situations in which I might get stung. If I am at a park with friends I avoid trash cans and try to eat food that is less attractive to bees. Should I expect the world to rid itself of bees just because I am allergic? I think not...

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: Amused
If you or your child has an allergy, YOU must conform to the world. You cannot expect the world to conform to you.

I have many allergies. Granted none are life threatening, but some are very unpleasent. You will never see me dictating how someone may live or act outside the confines of my property.

Exactly! This is a complete non-issue to me. The school should NOT have to conform to this kid's allergy. I have a severe allergy to bees and If I get stung I HAVE to immediately go to the hospital. The doctor said if I get stung again I have to carry around an Epi shot. Because of this I avoid situations in which I might get stung. If I am at a park with friends I avoid trash cans and try to eat food that is less attractive to bees. Should I expect the world to rid itself of bees just because I am allergic? I think not...

LOL! I can see it now.

"ATTN: All Bees and flying, stinging instects. You are forbidden to enter school property. This includes the playground area."

 

[Jzero]

Bee free school zone

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: DeathByAnts

Originally posted by: KK
Send the kid to france. They have no peanuts over there. Atleast not alot.

KK

Yeah, but he would die on the airplane flight over

Actually, because of this tiny minority of people (less than 1% of adults and about 1% of children) most, if not all airlines have stopped serving any nuts at all.

 

[Lucky]

thanks god there's still southwest!

 

[Mill]

Hey, and then we can spray with pesticides and create even more allergies. While we are doing that we can disrupt the eco-system and the process of pollination! Kill the bees!.After all that is only fair to ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.

That is all the world is about these days. Me!

Individual rights END when another person's rights are infringed upon. This is just another example of the massive amounts of snobby and self-important people out there. No, they can't homeschool or pay for private school. Why is that? Did these two dimbulbs ever THINK they might have a child with physical or mental problems? If a child does have that it costs $$$ to treat and care for them. Did they not think of emergencies or worst-case scenarios? Most people shouldn't be allowed to have kids because they have no fvcking clue how to raise or care for them.

This carries over to all walks of life. I was looking at houses a few months ago before I bought the one I am currently living in. I looked at 2 year old houses that were TRASHED. Lipstick, food, bugs, stains, grease, grime, etc. That doesn't happen in two years unless you are a fvcking slob. This wasn't crappy houses either. This was a house that was selling for about 215k in a very nice neighborhood. Considering the cost of living in Birmingham and real estate prices... that is about a 400-450k home in more competitive and crowded markets. WHAT THE HELL is wrong with people? How can you destroy such a nice house in 2 freaking years? It appeared, from the looks of the house, that the owners had about 3 or 4 young kids. Why? Why? Why? If you can't even take care of a house... you certainly don't need 3 or 4 fvcking kids.

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

They only isolate mentally handicapped people, and the reason they isolate them is because the learn at a much slower pace. Huge freaking difference.

What do they do with kids who suffer from Xeroderma Pigmentosa? (Allergic to sunlight)

Like I said before, would they cover all the windows in the class rooms and blot out the sun? Of course not. I see this as no different. They can isolate the child in school, or pay for private schooling. Either way, they do not have the right tolimit the freedoms of the other kids and their parents.

Ummm yes the schools do blot out the windows for kids who have an allergy to sunlight. I remember seeing a 48 hours or 20/20 segment a number of years ago on a girl who had this condition. The cameras followed her to the classroom and all the windows had big thick black curtains blocking all sunlight.

 

I hope this kid never goes to college. Not only will an entire dining hall serving 3000-4000 students daily have to adapt to his allergy (and trust me, most recipies there DO have nuts in them), but he'll never be able to go to bars, sporting events, or other social activities. It seems to me like homeschooling is best, but I definitely don't feel it's right to infringe on his right to go to public school.

I just think the school district is handling it all wrong. Isolate the kid. Don't make the entire school suffer.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

They only isolate mentally handicapped people, and the reason they isolate them is because the learn at a much slower pace. Huge freaking difference.

What do they do with kids who suffer from Xeroderma Pigmentosa? (Allergic to sunlight)

Like I said before, would they cover all the windows in the class rooms and blot out the sun? Of course not. I see this as no different. They can isolate the child in school, or pay for private schooling. Either way, they do not have the right tolimit the freedoms of the other kids and their parents.

Ummm yes the schools do blot out the windows for kids who have an allergy to sunlight. I remember seeing a 48 hours or 20/20 segment a number of years ago on a girl who had this condition. The cameras followed her to the classroom and all the windows had big thick black curtains blocking all sunlight.

I saw that one, too, and it was a special once-in-awhile thing, not every day. They were normally home schooled.

 

[Cat13]

Having 2 children myself, and my wife being a school nurse, I would have to really think long and hard about putting my child in any school. If my child had such severe allergies that the contact of peanuts could do that much harm, I would not want to put his/her life in danger like that. The school can do whatever is humanly possible, but if another child has it out for my kid, they will find a way to bring a peanut substance to school, that they can't control. I would have to say home schooling is the best alternative with them being an active member of a youth organization so they have friends to interact with.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: digitalsm

Originally posted by: CPA
PlatinumGold, what would happen if the Federal Government and State Governments and Local Governments decided to close all public schools? What articles or amendments to the Federal or State Constitutions would be violated? None. The constitutions specifies rights. All others are laws regarding privileged activities.

Yes and I have repeatedly stated, you can not kick someone out for reasons other than behavior problems. You can not legally, based on current laws, kick this kid out of the public education system without providing an alternitive to him. The only acceptable legal way to isolate him would be for the school district to pay for his private schooling.

And they already isolate special needs students within the public school system. I see no difference here.

They only isolate mentally handicapped people, and the reason they isolate them is because the learn at a much slower pace. Huge freaking difference.

What do they do with kids who suffer from Xeroderma Pigmentosa? (Allergic to sunlight)

Like I said before, would they cover all the windows in the class rooms and blot out the sun? Of course not. I see this as no different. They can isolate the child in school, or pay for private schooling. Either way, they do not have the right tolimit the freedoms of the other kids and their parents.

Isolating the student would be the most costly option, what they are doing now is the second most costly option. Private schooling would be the cheapest option, however you will have these same people bitching about it even though its roughly the same cost as public schooling, sometimes cheaper.

LOL welcome to reality. Why should we have to pay to have this kid home schooled. As cold hearted as that may sound, it's not our responsibility.

Why should a parent whos child "isnt allowed" to go to public school, have to pay for public education? Like Ive said there have been several cases where school districts pay for private schooling of some students for one reason or another.

The parents could sue the school district, and have an extremely high chance of winning, if the school district didnt make accomidations for their son. Theres really only two legal choices, do what they are doing now, which some would argue is illegal, although that would be debatable, or pay for an alternative solution, which would be private schooling. In terms of cost, paying for private schooling would be the cheapest for the school district.

Sorry but you're not making sense. Why should I have to pay for this kid's schooling. He's welcome to go to the public school. If it's not enough for him, then his parents should pay to put him in a private "safer" school. It's common sense.

 

[Dead3ye]

There is a little girl in my son's kindergarden class that has the same exact allergy. He is enrolled in a private school (Catholic). I guess her parents decided that enrolling her in a private school would be a partial solution to their problem. They sure didn't see the opposition as this boy's parents are experiencing, but then they didn't request that the whole school be "NUT" free either and just to alert the other parents to explain to their children that this girl has this allergy and to be careful.

Checking backpacks and school lunches for peanut butter and related food is going a little too far IMO.

 

[Saulbadguy]

I say sneak small amounts of nuts into his food. What can't kill him can only make him stronger right? 😉

 

[IEatChildren]

I say let the kid go to school in a peanut free zone where all the other kids are gonna beat his ass because they can't have what they want for lunch.
Kids aren't very understanding. They don't like to conform, so they'd blame the kid, and he's probably get the beats or the silent treatment. Either way, the kid's not getting the socialization his parents want him to get.

 

[spidey07]

I say let the kid go to school in a peanut free zone where all the other kids are gonna beat his ass because they can't have what they want for lunch.

Or ship 'em to New York where they'll have their own separatists school. 🙂

Part of me really does think there will be a civil war in 10-15 years.

 

[brxndxn]

We had a kid just like that peanut kid in my grade school. We ate peanut butter sandwiches near him and he didn't die. When a kid had a birthday, and the mother brought in cake or cookies that had peanut butter in them, they would always be careful to bring an extra peanut-free snack for the peanut kid.

He wasn't different than us because he didn't seem to care that he couldn't have peanuts. No one made a big deal about it. He didn't bug our entire school to change everything.

What a bunch of asshole parents.. "If my kid can't have peanut butter, I'll make everyone else suffer too."

 

[ggavinmoss]

Man, I hope they start using this logic to disallow kids in wheelchairs from attending public schools in MY area! In fact, I'm off to burn down the handicapped access ramp at my local high school! Fight the power! No more opression by the minority!

-geoff

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: ggavinmoss
Man, I hope they start using this logic to disallow kids in wheelchairs from attending public schools in MY area! In fact, I'm off to burn down the handicapped access ramp at my local high school! Fight the power! No more opression by the minority!

-geoff

Poor analogy.

Now forcing all the kids to wheelchairs would be closer to this scenario of denying a food to the whole school. And yes, please do keep up the fight against oppression by minorities. Vote and make your voice heard.

 

[brxndxn]

"My child has a severe reaction to any car bumpers that come in contact with him at more than 5mph. Therefore, all cars must be banned from school premises."

 

[starwarsdad]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth
I'm allergic to stupid people and no one seems to be conforming to my needs...

I have the same allergy! I need protection from the ignorant as well. Can I use the Americans with Disabilities Act too?

 

[teddymines]

What happened to the good old days of elementary school?

Kids were beat up on a regular basis, and dealt with it. Teachers called you demeaning names, they got away with it and you dealt with it. Slow kids were picked on my the teacher and everyone in the classroom laughed until the kid cried, but he learned not to be slow anymore. Ugly kids were picked on. Those who weren't good at sports were punched in the nutz or tripped in the hall. If you were in band, be prepared to be last one up to bat. If you were easy prey, your lunch money got stolen or the bully ate your lunch if you brought it.