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SlowSpyder

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Yes. All members of a family are punished for a family members perceived crimes(which can be anything at all, most are made up on the spot). Three generations or so of your family are the ones that get punished. Not just present born either. Kids are born in the camps and spend their entire lives there until they die, which is typically before the age of 10. The NK internment camps are as bad as the the Nazi internment/labor camps. Apparently NK does experiments and surgical training on living/awake prisoners as well.


I have a seven year old and its tough to think about what kids in those camps must have to face. Think about it, many of them will know no other existence than forced labor, beatings, and eventually an early and probably gruesome death. :(
 

WelshBloke

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I have a seven year old and its tough to think about what kids in those camps must have to face. Think about it, many of them will know no other existence than forced labor, beatings, and eventually an early and probably gruesome death. :(

Yeah I've a kid about the same age. When I read "escape from camp 14" it really hit home.
There's no easy answer unfortunately, part of me just wants the NK leadership assassinated regardless of consequences though.
 

MontyAC

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They really need Sarah there:

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Thump553

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I have a seven year old and its tough to think about what kids in those camps must have to face. Think about it, many of them will know no other existence than forced labor, beatings, and eventually an early and probably gruesome death. :(

Check out the nonfiction book "Escape From Camp 14"-it's pretty mindblowing that life is like this anywhere in the modern world. A truely evil society.


http://www.amazon.com/Escape-Camp-14.../dp/0143122916
 

Craig234

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Put aside the holocaust, and consider the horrors of Nazi concentration camps.

We say 'how could the world have ignored that'. Action was demanded.

And yet those were there for under a decade, while North Korea's are decades old.

And we do nothing.
 

WelshBloke

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Put aside the holocaust, and consider the horrors of Nazi concentration camps.

We say 'how could the world have ignored that'. Action was demanded.

And yet those were there for under a decade, while North Korea's are decades old.

And we do nothing.

What should we do?

Aside from military action theres not a lot left for us to do.
 

ichy

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Put aside the holocaust, and consider the horrors of Nazi concentration camps.

We say 'how could the world have ignored that'. Action was demanded.

And yet those were there for under a decade, while North Korea's are decades old.

And we do nothing.

What would you suggest we do? Invade North Korea? At best that ends with tens of thousands of deaths, at worst it results in a nuke being dropped on Seoul and the subsequent transformation of North Korea into a radioactive parking lot.
 

ichy

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This is the best reason to use Seal Team 6. Go in there and free all these people. Seriously WTF is wrong with our government?

I suppose the fact that they don't want a second Korean War (with a nuclear North Korea this time!) is what's "wrong" with our government. It's a pity we didn't finish the Korean War properly sixty years ago but that's water under the bridge at this point.
 

Craig234

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What should we do?

Aside from military action theres not a lot left for us to do.

Work with the Chinese to agree on regime change. Figure out the best way to achieve it.

That could mean deals with NK's military, a stealth attack, different options.

Wikileaks indicated China is open to even re-unification of North Korea to South Korea.

It'd be a project, but it's worth it.
 

ichy

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Work with the Chinese to agree on regime change.

There are all sorts of reasons the Chinese would never help the US with that.

Come to think of it I'm not sure the South Koreans would even want a peaceful reunification at this point. The economic and social consequences of having to absorb a country like North Korea would be immense.
 
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BladeVenom

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Gun control, socialized medicine, no religion, and no greedy corporations, it's almost everything liberals want.