"Killing is [morally] fine" Discuss

[HAL9000]

but that's not self defense, that is defense of property... which you just said isn't the same... and you just admitted you would...

I didn't say i'd kill him. I said I'd try to stop him.

My house isn't worth a life, no ones is. The White house isn't worth a life if no ones in it, it's just a building.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

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Well played sir, well played.

 

[HAL9000]

Well played sir, well played.

:'(

 

[Brigandier]

I didn't say i'd kill him. I said I'd try to stop him.

My house isn't worth a life, no ones is. The White house isn't worth a life if no ones in it, it's just a building.

Some people have houses with pets, family members, and friends in them and I can see them defending that with force.

Personally I would look for the option c where the perp can live, get fucked over, and I can somehow profit, but that isn't always the case.

 

[HAL9000]

Some people have houses with pets, family members, and friends in them and I can see them defending that with force.

Personally I would look for the option c where the perp can live, get fucked over, and I can somehow profit, but that isn't always the case.

Absolutely, I was assuming the guy meant an empty house. If people are in it it's completely different.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

A brilliant argument about eating meat. Just the kind of logic I expected from someone like you

On a side note, the Nazi's wouldn't have moved all of the English to germany if they had won the war, neither would they have renamed england to germany.

I'd still be from England

Try again next time.

Yes... because Hitler would have totally not called what is now Europe, Germany had he won...

 

[HAL9000]

Yes... because Hitler would have totally not called what is now Europe, Germany had he won...

:hmm: interesting. Either way that argument has nothing to do with thread.

 

[MikeMike]

Yes... because Hitler would have totally not called what is now Europe, Germany had he won...

he would have talked about how the holocaust never happened. Hitler was a great leader.

 

[HAL9000]

he would have talked about how the holocaust never happened.

Do you actually believe that?!

 

[BoomerD]

he would have talked about how the holocaust never happened. Hitler was a great leader.

What holocaust? Sounds like some kind of urban legend to me...


Neckwrap, where do you stand on the death penalty?

I fully support the killing of our more serious criminals rather than house them for life in prison.
Of course, I also support expanding its use for more than just "capital crimes."

Those criminals who have shown that they refuse to be "rehabilitated" and have 3 convictions...habitual criminals, should be executed rather than requiring taxpayers to support them for 20, 30, even 50 years in prison...feeding them, housing them, clothing them, providing them with excellent medical care...

 

[HAL9000]

What holocaust? Sounds like some kind of urban legend to me...


Neckwrap, where do you stand on the death penalty?

I fully support the killing of our more serious criminals rather than house them for life in prison.
Of course, I also support expanding its use for more than just "capital crimes."

Those criminals who have shown that they refuse to be "rehabilitated" and have 3 convictions...habitual criminals, should be executed rather than requiring taxpayers to support them for 20, 30, even 50 years in prison...feeding them, housing them, clothing them, providing them with excellent medical care...

Who's neckwrap?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Yes... because Hitler would have totally not called what is now Europe, Germany had he won...

he would have talked about how the holocaust never happened. Hitler was a great leader.

If Hitler had won, would anybody know what the holocaust was?

 

[bfdd]

Hi People

I have been informed recently that the majority of people on this forum would argue that "Killing is fine" is that the case?! Here's a poll. let me know.

Neckarb

Edit: to clarify, when I say "Killing" I mean taking a life.


For some reason I was in a thread a minute ago, and quite a few people were saying killing is fine, a very finite statement with many repercussions I was told that most people agree with that statement.

For me the notion to kill anything is unacceptable except in self defence.

I apologise for the crudity of the question, particularly how non-specific it is, but the validity of that statement is what I am trying to assess. I have no other information to provide as that is the statement what was originally made

The statment originated in: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2133856

Which was dealing with killing a Coyote however it soon derailed and ended up discussing the rather non-specific statement that "Killing is fine" all encompassing killing in general. This I took issue with and wanted a wider opinion than those in the thread.

Here I am.

I should also add this question is from a Moral perspective. "Morally/ ethically" fine.

You say killing is only acceptable in self-defense, yet in another thread you said you were ok with killing if someone insulted anothers religion. That's self-defense to you?

 

[HAL9000]

You say killing is only acceptable in self-defense, yet in another thread you said you were ok with killing if someone insulted anothers religion. That's self-defense to you?

I didn't say doing it was ok, I said people holding up signs saying it was ok....

 

[Brigandier]

If Hitler had won, would anybody know what the holocaust was?

If Hitler won, what would Godwin's Law be?

 

[bfdd]

I didn't say doing it was ok, I said people holding up signs saying it was ok....

uh... so signs that say "if you insult me i will kill you" are ok?

 

[Heller]

yet another thread where necktard goes out looking like a bitch.

I believe its the 4th time this week.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

If Hitler won, what would Godwin's Law be?

"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Jews approaches 1."

 

[erikistired]

A brilliant argument about eating meat. Just the kind of logic I expected from someone like you

On a side note, the Nazi's wouldn't have moved all of the English to germany if they had won the war, neither would they have renamed england to germany.

I'd still be from England

Try again next time.

you have no idea what the nazis would have done, because we saved you from them. troll harder next time.

 

[WoodButcher]

Killing humans when forced to in self-defense is fine.
Killing humans in wartime when following all rules of engagement is fine.
Killing human criminals who have earned the death penalty is fine.
Killing humans to end their terminal suffering is fine, with consent.
Killing animals for food or to eliminate varmints or pests is fine.
Killing animals to further necessary life-saving medical science is fine.
Killing animals to end their terminal suffering or threat to society is fine.

I'm sure there are some instances when killing is fine that I am missing, but if you ask me specifically if "killing is fine" without any qualification then I'd have to answer NO.

as I just voted in the poll as I saw none but three answers.

 

[HAL9000]

uh... so signs that say "if you insult me i will kill you" are ok?

Another thread.

 

[HAL9000]

you have no idea what the nazis would have done, because we saved you from them. troll harder next time.

No.

 

[Kirby]

It's not about being soft an furry, it's about the level of intelligence of the animal, and whether or not we have the right to kill them.

If it was about the intelligence of an animal you'd be taken care of a long time ago.

As to the poll: Yes they deserve to die and I hope they burn in hell.

 

[reallyscrued]

Why do I bother to venture into threads created by you?

 

[dud]

No.

You fit the classic definition of a troll.