Killing Bin Laden

[Binarycow]

[FONT=&quot]The New Yorker puts together interviews of Team 6 members who went in for Bin Laden. Definitely is worth a reading:[/FONT]
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http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle?currentPage=all

 

[Moonbeam]

I don't believe a word of it. It would be absolutely stupid to kill Bin Laden. The government I see would fake his death and and torture him for information is a clandestine prison somewhere.

 

[monovillage]

I think full credit needs to be given to President Obama, he stepped up attempts to locate Bin Laden, though his efforts he was located, he helped plan invading an allied nations sovereignty and assassinating an enemy of the United States. He did a great job and should be admired for this episode.

 

[Fern]

Marked for later

 

[a777pilot]

I think full credit needs to be given to President Obama, he stepped up attempts to locate Bin Laden, though his efforts he was located, he helped plan invading an allied nations sovereignty and assassinating an enemy of the United States. He did a great job and should be admired for this episode.

Actually, this is all due to Bush(43).

 

[woolfe9999]

An interesting read. Thanks for posting it. I find it interesting that even Obama doesn't know who fired the kill shot.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Actually, this is all due to Bush(43).

Care to explain how? Particularly the diversion of resources Bush made that prevented the.....ahh never mind.

 

[a777pilot]

Care to explain how? Particularly the diversion of resources Bush made that prevented the.....ahh never mind.

Simple....Bush is blamed for everything that is happening in this country by the current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, so he must be responsible for the taking down of OBL also.

Sort of a goose/gander thing.

On a completely different topic, by related, I wonder why the rabid left wing anti-religious types are not 1. Complaining that this murderer got a religious burial by the US military. 2. Why the SEAL that said “For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.” is not identified and run out of the military for using the word "God". and 3. Callingfor the droping of Joe Biden from the 2012 ticket for this repoert:

At one point, Biden, who had been fingering a rosary, turned to Mullen, the Joint Chiefs chairman. “We should all go to Mass tonight,” he said.

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How dare a government offical invoke God!


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[woolfe9999]

Simple....Bush is blamed for everything that is happening in this country by the current Fool, Bobo, the Post Turtle, so he must be responsible for the taking down of OBL also.

Sort of a goose/gander thing.

On a completely different topic, by related, I wonder why the rabid left wing anti-religious types are not 1. Complaining that this murderer got a religious burial by the US military. 2. Why the SEAL that said “For God and country—Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo.” is not identified and run out of the military for using the word "God". and 3. Callingfor the droping of Joe Biden from the 2012 ticket for this repoert:

How dare a government offical invoke God!


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I'm afraid you woefully fail at understanding the idea of separating church from state.

 

[werepossum]

I think full credit needs to be given to President Obama, he stepped up attempts to locate Bin Laden, though his efforts he was located, he helped plan invading an allied nations sovereignty and assassinating an enemy of the United States. He did a great job and should be admired for this episode.

Agreed. He could have taken the safer route and bombed the compound. Pakistan would be even more pissed, claiming we destroyed an orphanage or something, and bin Ladin would probably have survived.

 

[a777pilot]

This.

http://patdollard.com/2011/05/obama-hesitated-–-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

 

[a777pilot]

I'm afraid you woefully fail at understanding the idea of separating church from state.

Ya, think?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

This.

http://patdollard.com/2011/05/obama-hesitated-–-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

Lol Pat Dollard? Really? Yeah that's a believable unbiased person with no agenda. You claim you were in the military. Are you familiar with sedition?

Have any opinions of your own?

 

[Binarycow]

the only WTH moment reading it is the part about they ordered Costco sandwiches for the situation room at the WH on that day. I mean I have nothing against Costco but their sandwiches are kinda ghetto. Doesn't the WH have chefs that can whip them up some shark-steak burgers or something?

Then again that can be considered as the awesome part about the U.S.A., Obama probably wipes his behind with the same kind of toilet paper as I use. How many leaders of other countries, especially the shitty ones, that we can say the same thing.

 

[OCGuy]

I don't believe a word of it. It would be absolutely stupid to kill Bin Laden. The government I see would fake his death and and torture him for information is a clandestine prison somewhere.

Self-hate led you to this conclusion.

 

[cwjerome]

I think full credit needs to be given to President Obama, he stepped up attempts to locate Bin Laden, though his efforts he was located, he helped plan invading an allied nations sovereignty and assassinating an enemy of the United States. He did a great job and should be admired for this episode.

I agree that Obama deserves credit and thanks, I am profoundly grateful he continued the chase, acted on intel, and took decisive action. I am also immeasurably distressed that many people, perhaps you, who superficially and politically portray Obama as the lone hero who deserves ALL the credit.

The herculean changes in the US military and intelligence community, policy, dramatically improved joint/systems integration, investment in capabilities that created a broader and deeper ranged of power, and continuous operations that honed skills... all these things have culminated over the last 10 years to make that operation possible. Obama exhibited excellent leadership, but the opportunity itself was the long result of complex efforts by many. Obama graciously acknowledged this fact, I wish his less thoughtful followers would do this as well.

 

[Rainsford]

This.

http://patdollard.com/2011/05/obama-hesitated-–-panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

Wow, an unnamed source on some right-wing website I've never heard of...that MUST be exactly what happened.

To be honest, even knowing what I know about politics, the reaction on the right to President Obama's involvement in the killing of Osama bin Laden seems unbelievably, almost cartoonishly partisan.

 

[a777pilot]

Lol Pat Dollard? Really? Yeah that's a believable unbiased person with no agenda. You claim you were in the military. Are you familiar with sedition?

Have any opinions of your own?

First I have little to no faith in any so called news sites. They are all fucked up in the head.

Yes, I have lots of opinions. Sometimes I even make a serious post of my opinions.

 

[Rainsford]

I agree that Obama deserves credit and thanks, I am profoundly grateful he continued the chase, acted on intel, and took decisive action. I am also immeasurably distressed that many people, perhaps you, who superficially and politically portray Obama as the lone hero who deserves ALL the credit.

The herculean changes in the US military and intelligence community, policy, dramatically improved joint/systems integration, investment in capabilities that created a broader and deeper ranged of power, and continuous operations that honed skills... all these things have culminated over the last 10 years to make that operation possible. Obama exhibited excellent leadership, but the opportunity itself was the long result of complex efforts by many. Obama graciously acknowledged this fact, I wish his less thoughtful followers would do this as well.

Who are these people you're talking about? I don't think I've seen anyone saying Obama deserves all the credit and that the military and intelligence communities shouldn't get any credit.

 

[a777pilot]

Wow, an unnamed source on some right-wing website I've never heard of...that MUST be exactly what happened.

To be honest, even knowing what I know about politics, the reaction on the right to President Obama's involvement in the killing of Osama bin Laden seems unbelievably, almost cartoonishly partisan.

Wow, an unnamed source on some right-wing website I've never heard of...that MUST be exactly what happened.

I could not agree more with your skepticism, but I hope you remember your post when the MSM brings up similarly referenced stories about the right side of the spectrum.

 

[sygyzy]

I agree that Obama deserves credit and thanks, I am profoundly grateful he continued the chase, acted on intel, and took decisive action. I am also immeasurably distressed that many people, perhaps you, who superficially and politically portray Obama as the lone hero who deserves ALL the credit.

The herculean changes in the US military and intelligence community, policy, dramatically improved joint/systems integration, investment in capabilities that created a broader and deeper ranged of power, and continuous operations that honed skills... all these things have culminated over the last 10 years to make that operation possible. Obama exhibited excellent leadership, but the opportunity itself was the long result of complex efforts by many. Obama graciously acknowledged this fact, I wish his less thoughtful followers would do this as well.

Do you honestly believe that monovillage is trying to say Obama single-handedly tracked down and killed Osama Bin Laden? Give me a break.

 

[a777pilot]

The President plays golf. That's good. I hope he plays more and more golf. The more he is out of the office the better this nation will be.

 

[Rainsford]

I could not agree more with your skepticism, but I hope you remember your post when the MSM bring up similarly referenced stories about the right side of the spectrum.

I'm all about applying due skepticism to information I receive. But I think it's a bad idea to apply EQUAL skepticism to every source. The media has its problems, but I'll take what they say with a smaller grain of salt than I do getting information from some blatantly partisan source I've never heard of. While it's a mistake to believe everything you hear from any source, it's also a mistake to treat all sources as equally reliable (that is to say, equally unreliable). This can lead to a tendency to form your opinions by just averaging everything you hear or by ignoring all of what you hear, neither of which is likely to present an accurate picture of reality.

 

[a777pilot]

I'm all about applying due skepticism to information I receive. But I think it's a bad idea to apply EQUAL skepticism to every source. The media has its problems, but I'll take what they say with a smaller grain of salt than I do getting information from some blatantly partisan source I've never heard of. While it's a mistake to believe everything you hear from any source, it's also a mistake to treat all sources as equally reliable (that is to say, equally unreliable). This can lead to a tendency to form your opinions by just averaging everything you hear or by ignoring all of what you hear, neither of which is likely to present an accurate picture of reality.

I would love to believe you and what you are saying about different news sites, however, Name me one, one will do, source that only reports the news vice has a political agenda.

I await your suggested site.

Thanks.

 

[cwjerome]

Who are these people you're talking about? I don't think I've seen anyone saying Obama deserves all the credit and that the military and intelligence communities shouldn't get any credit.

You want names? I haven't kept a tally, just a minor observation on a couple message boards and on tv/radio. In this thread I tend to think monovillage and momentofsanity probably think Bush and those under him deserve no credit, but I could be wrong... I don't keep track of who says what on here in previous postings.

When I see people say Obama gets FULL credit I take that to mean he deserves all of the credit.