Killing Bin Laden

[zinfamous]

Not announcing it immediately was a non-starter for the reasons already given. The decision wasn't so that the administration could "take credit" for it. They were going to take credit for it whether they did so immediately or several weeks later. The issue was that too many people wouldn't believe it had it been announced retrospectively, and without a doubt it would have leaked out to the general public through one channel or another, probably within days. The administration needed to get on top of the story before it leaked.

The botching of the details by people making unauthorized leaks is hardly surprising, though the administration should have done a better job in controlling that. Still, these new revelations hardly stimulate conspiracy theories. So they landed on the roof instead of the ground, and the helicopter crashed after OBL was killed rather than before? The fact that someone on the ground, who is actually accusing the administration of getting many of the details wrong, is corroborating this kill is not exactly a positive development for the CT crowd.

- wolf

This author is not someone who was on the ground, simply an "insider" with more privileged access to a source that was on the ground, which is pretty much what the NYorker article claims.

So, that article has been challenged, by this book, which claims the same secondary (or tertiary) level of access. :\

 

[EagleKeeper]

This author is not someone who was on the ground, simply an "insider" with more privileged access to a source that was on the ground, which is pretty much what the NYorker article claims.

So, that article has been challenged, by this book, which claims the same secondary (or tertiary) level of access. :\

Agreed
Until an active participant puts out the facts, it all becomes a situation of she said, he said.

Inside info can be an actual team member, a third party, or one that had knowledge on how the operation was planned.

A major difference in details is: was OBL armed or hiding behind a wife?

I would suspect that with this book; the actual post action reports will get released in some form or another.

 

[airdata]

Osama Bin Laden : Gets killed and dumped at sea. No edidence of his death is presented, no pictures... nothing.

Ghaddafi : youtube search Ghaddafi + death + sodomy, watch the last seconds of his life including somebody sticking a knife or stick up his ass.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Osama Bin Laden : Gets killed and dumped at sea. No edidence of his death is presented, no pictures... nothing.

Ghaddafi : youtube search Ghaddafi + death + sodomy, watch the last seconds of his life including somebody sticking a knife or stick up his ass.

Martyr are not desired.

No one mourns the loss of Ghaddafi.

OBl has million of followers - anything to incite/encourage/rally because of his death/location would be trouble.

Pictures exist - not published because of the above.

 

[airdata]

Ghaddafi was not martyred when he spent his last seconds of life w\ a large object shoved up his ass, and the video passed around on the internet.

OBL may not be martyred because many of those people probably know that he had been dead for a while. Alot of sources say he's been dead for years.

 

[zinfamous]

Ghaddafi was not martyred when he spent his last seconds of life w\ a large object shoved up his ass, and the video passed around on the internet.

OBL may not be martyred because many of those people probably know that he had been dead for a while. Alot of sources say he's been dead for years.

Qaddafi never would have been martyred. No one liked the dude. His supporters simply feared him while he was alive. Where there ever a possibility of him being martyred, the fighting in Syrt would have continued after his capture, amongst those tiny pockets of "supporters"

With his death, they had no reason to fight for him, because they hated his guts, too.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Book's account challenged by Spec Ops command

Spec-Ops Command: SEAL raid book 'a lie'

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Special Operations Command is calling a former Navy SEAL's book bogus, with its claims to describe the "real" version of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. It's the first time the command made such an statement, in an era of multiple tell-all books about top secret operations.


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As I stated previously, until an active participant who was there gives up the story, everything will be publicity and hearsay.

 

[sm625]

You mean there are members of seal team 6 still alive?