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AlienCraft

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Nov 23, 2002
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I'm all for putting them in a trunk in the desert, and save on the cost of ammo.
It is hard to contain the bad feelings this provokes.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Probably not so much chose to ignore it, but were probably told it was "none of yer damn bizness, ya nosy snoop!" and that they would "raise this damn kid however i see fit to!" while the trailer trash was fondling a shotgun.

I will agree it's not uncommon to be threatened back, but just a simple anonymous call to DCS would have been very effective.
 

JohnnyGage

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I will agree it's not uncommon to be threatened back, but just a simple anonymous call to DCS would have been very effective.

The article in the paper yesterday said that neighbors had seen children without diapers or shoes out at all times of the day and night. The neighbor decided to not call CPS fearing that they would split up the family. Ame the girl who died apparently was 4' 2" and 59 pounds and suffered the brunt of the abuse. Even the father's identity is up in the air. Yeah, a bullet to the head is waste here, but these people aren't exactly going to solve the great mysteries of life. Maybe they should be locked up in a foot locker over night. A-holes. Poor girl never had a chance.

And here is the article with the girls mother:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/...hoenix-girl-death-ame-deal-mother-speaks.html
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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The neighbor decided to not call CPS fearing that they would split up the family.

I think that is a neighbor like mine that watched my house getting burglarized for 4 hours implying they were 'doing the right thing' when they really were just scared.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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The article in the paper yesterday said that neighbors had seen children without diapers or shoes out at all times of the day and night. The neighbor decided to not call CPS fearing that they would split up the family. Ame the girl who died apparently was 4' 2" and 59 pounds and suffered the brunt of the abuse. Even the father's identity is up in the air. Yeah, a bullet to the head is waste here, but these people aren't exactly going to solve the great mysteries of life. Maybe they should be locked up in a foot locker over night. A-holes. Poor girl never had a chance.

And here is the article with the girls mother:
http://www.azcentral.com/community/...hoenix-girl-death-ame-deal-mother-speaks.html

WTF they decided to not call CPS? ugh.


the size of the girl aint bad. small but nothing that would says she is getting abused.

but the fact she was out without diapers or shoes (lol my kids never wear shoes). t hough i guess that depends on the age.
 

Bignate603

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Sep 5, 2000
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The neighbor decided to not call CPS fearing that they would split up the family.

Usually CPS does what they can to keep the kids with their parents if it is at all possible. If they're split up its because the kid is far better off away from the parents. Personally, I'd rather call CPS and have it be a false alarm than not call and find out the kid died.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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WTF they decided to not call CPS? ugh.


the size of the girl aint bad. small but nothing that would says she is getting abused.

but the fact she was out without diapers or shoes (lol my kids never wear shoes). t hough i guess that depends on the age.

The fuck what?
10 year old girl at 4'9" and only 59lbs equates to this:
Your height is 83th percentile
That means you are 83th in height compared to 100 kids your age and sex.


Your weight is 12th percentile
That means you are 12th in weight compared to 100 kids your age and sex.


Your Body Mass Index is 12.8, which is less than the 3th percentile.
That means that your BMI is the lowest compared to 100 kids your age and sex.


You are underweight according to health experts*. Underweight children may not grow normally, and underweight teen girls may have menstrual problems.

The healthy weight range for your height and age is 65 to 92 pounds (29 to 42 kilograms). This range corresponds to a BMI between the 5th and 85th percentiles for your age and sex.

I really don't get how people defend this kind of shit today.

She was at best 10% UNDERweight and at worst 35% . That's a lot for someone that small.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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The fuck what?
10 year old girl at 4'9" and only 59lbs equates to this:


I really don't get how people defend this kind of shit today.

She was at best 10% UNDERweight and at worst 35% . That's a lot for someone that small.

meh. i don't find her size a indicator of abuse. though it does depend on her parents.

hell my daughter just turned 9. she is 4ft even and 45 lbs (last year on her birthdsay she was 3'10 and 39lbs). She eats a ton but burns it off with gymnastics and playing. i also bet she eats enough to give even you a run. She has always been in the 1-2% on the growth charts (parents know what that is) though she did hit 3% once!


hell as a freshmen iw as 5'2 and 96 (wrestled at 103). so it does run in the family.
 

classy

Lifer
Oct 12, 1999
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That is really sad. Makes me think of my little one, who is that age. Man.........................
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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That is really sad. Makes me think of my little one, who is that age. Man.........................

exactly. i couldn't think of hurting my children. just blows my mind that people torture them and then kill them. i just don't get it.
 

Wanescotting

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Feb 4, 2004
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exactly. i couldn't think of hurting my children. just blows my mind that people torture them and then kill them. i just don't get it.

They were probably beaten by their parents, and by the looks of it, they were always in trouble...
 

Locut0s

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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Yeah just finished reading that. Shit that's horrible! :(

If first degree murder what they should be going after though? Don't you have to prove premeditated intent to kill for that? wouldn't 2nd degree be more likely. Not saying they don't deserved to be charged with 1st, they do, but I wonder if it will stick.
 

AstroManLuca

Lifer
Jun 24, 2004
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Yeah just finished reading that. Shit that's horrible! :(

If first degree murder what they should be going after though? Don't you have to prove premeditated intent to kill for that? wouldn't 2nd degree be more likely. Not saying they don't deserved to be charged with 1st, they do, but I wonder if it will stick.

If you've had any time to consider what you're doing, it's premeditated.

Besides, these fucks deserve it.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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meh. i don't find her size a indicator of abuse. though it does depend on her parents.

hell my daughter just turned 9. she is 4ft even and 45 lbs (last year on her birthdsay she was 3'10 and 39lbs). She eats a ton but burns it off with gymnastics and playing. i also bet she eats enough to give even you a run. She has always been in the 1-2% on the growth charts (parents know what that is) though she did hit 3% once!


hell as a freshmen iw as 5'2 and 96 (wrestled at 103). so it does run in the family.

It's VERY unhealthy for any woman to be that low on body fat. Food consumption <> health either.

96lbs and 62 inches tall is far healthier and you cannot compare male to female BMI's directly.
 

mattpegher

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Jun 18, 2006
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Those four look like something out of a horror movie. A fitting end for all four would be to be locked in a trunk as well. Something a kin to the iron maiden- non spiked version.
 

Spikesoldier

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Oct 15, 2001
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yeah them 4 need to be stuffed into their individual boxes, padlocked, placed onto a moving conveyer belt, and get ran over by a 747 taking off before dropping into the incinerator.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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The fuck what?
10 year old girl at 4'9" and only 59lbs equates to this:


I really don't get how people defend this kind of shit today.

She was at best 10&#37; UNDERweight and at worst 35% . That's a lot for someone that small.

She's 4'2", not 4"9 you moron.

I can't get too choked up about this though. Do we really want this family line continuing?
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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She's 4'2", not 4"9 you moron.

I can't get too choked up about this though. Do we really want this family line continuing?

oops i thought his numbers were off but didn't read close enough to see. the real numbers put her..

12% in weight

4% in height.


again nothing that screams abuse. just a small child
 
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oops i thought his numbers were off but didn't read close enough to see. the real numbers put her..

12% in weight

4% in height.


again nothing that screams abuse. just a small child

it definitely seems like a risk factor for abuse or neglect. atleast something that theoretically should be investigated assuming that child protective services had the time, money and authority.