Kid uses sex offender list for victims to kill?

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

Correct. That is why these people need to be treated for mental illness or locked up, depending on the nature of the action.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime.

No, we've always had this much "crime"; you just didn't hear about it before.

They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

We say that the legal system needs reform for reasons like this.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

So you're telling me that they just decided to be this way. Suuuuure. :roll:

 

[bersl2]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Just a suggestion: Perhaps it is better that you not bring capital punishment into this discussion. It could get much uglier very quickly.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: bersl2

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

Correct. That is why these people need to be treated for mental illness or locked up, depending on the nature of the action.

Or shot/hung/juiced

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime.

No, we've always had this much "crime"; you just didn't hear about it before.

Doubtful. Very doubtful.

They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

We say that the legal system needs reform for reasons like this.

Couldnt agree more

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

So you're telling me that they just decided to be this way. Suuuuure. :roll:

Yes, thats EXACTLY what I'm saying.
Its one thing to think about doing it, its a WHOLE different ballgame to actually follow through.

Thanks for defending the rapists though. Good job protecting the criminal.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

errr whaa?
Breathe into a paper bag for 30 secons and then maybe try posting something coherent?

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

errr whaa?
Breathe into a paper bag for 30 secons and then maybe try posting something coherent?

Try reading comprehension.
Previous poster stated we dont know what they did. Well, given their names and towns, we can look them up and see exactly what they did.

Well, we could if the database wasnt offline to protect criminals.

 

[Proletariat]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
I'm a mother too, and without doubt I certainly understand how you feel. But I don't believe that just looking at a database and then going out and hunting down someone from a databse and arbitrarily killing them solves anything.

There is more to these cases than what you see online...

I would like nothing more than to torture and kill the SOB who raped, tortured and killed that little girl just like everyone else believe me!

I think our laws are terribly flawed. We do need to find a way to change the laws when it comes to these type crimes. This guy on the news needs to be sentenced to death... period. Anyone who rapes or molests a child, women... in such a way should be locked up for the rest of their life is how I see it. I agree with you, these people seem to be incurable, and if they are they don't seem to be getting the right kind of help... if at all. They are a threat to everyone in society and I don't want to gamble peoples lives with people like that out on the streets. That I agree with it.

But I don't believe in people taking on a mob mentality or a vigilante like mentality either because things can go to far and there are circumstances that are unique in each and every case that we may not be aware of. That is the point I am trying to make.

Not to mention the fact that so many people have been convicted on evidence that was tainted or false, and they were truly innocent to begin with. How many times have we seen it on TV where years later someone that was convicted and did time for a crime they did not commit ended up being found innoccent with new evidence. Some of those cases they were already processed through the system.

So I assume you think all these female teachers molesting their students should be put to death...

Oh wait...

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

errr whaa?
Breathe into a paper bag for 30 secons and then maybe try posting something coherent?

Try reading comprehension.
Previous poster stated we dont know what they did. Well, given their names and towns, we can look them up and see exactly what they did.

Well, we could if the database wasnt offline to protect criminals.

Yeah,
so you don't even know why they were on the sex offender list, yet you're cheering for this canadian crackpot.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to rationalize how rape is the same degree offense as murder...

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: Proletariat
So I assume you think all these female teachers molesting their students should be put to death...

Oh wait...

I didnt know any of those teachers raped their students.
Interesting.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Proletariat
So I assume you think all these female teachers molesting their students should be put to death...

Oh wait...

I didnt know any of those teachers raped their students.
Interesting.

google "statutory rape", that's what you get convicted off if she's under 18

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Proletariat
So I assume you think all these female teachers molesting their students should be put to death...

Oh wait...

I didnt know any of those teachers raped their students.
Interesting.

google "statutory rape", that's what you get convicted off if she's under 18

It's incredible that with all the posts in this thread, there are people who don't realize that statutory rape qualifies someone as a sex offender. Hell, Brian Peppers grabbed some nurse and got on the sex offender registry.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Proletariat
So I assume you think all these female teachers molesting their students should be put to death...

Oh wait...

I didnt know any of those teachers raped their students.
Interesting.

google "statutory rape", that's what you get convicted off if she's under 18

I'm aware of that, I was being facetious.

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

errr whaa?
Breathe into a paper bag for 30 secons and then maybe try posting something coherent?

Try reading comprehension.
Previous poster stated we dont know what they did. Well, given their names and towns, we can look them up and see exactly what they did.

Well, we could if the database wasnt offline to protect criminals.

Yeah,
so you don't even know why they were on the sex offender list, yet you're cheering for this canadian crackpot.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to rationalize how rape is the same degree offense as murder...

How about you try getting raped and seeing how life altering it is mentally. It isn't simply "Oh, I got raped, but I'm fine now that he is behind bars." Relationships could harder to hold onto or even start for that matter. Depression, and guilt might lead to suicide. What if your daughter was going through this during the 8 years that the rapist was in jail. Then you find out that he was released and your daughter still hasn't been back to normal. How do you deal with that?

If it turns out those men have truly raped someone (don't bring up statutory rape) then I will have NO sympathy for them. For all we know the killer could have been raped by them. I have urges to hit some people but don't act upon them because I have SELF CONTROL.

But seriously, we do not know the background to this case to go accusing.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: AMDUALY

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

errr whaa?
Breathe into a paper bag for 30 secons and then maybe try posting something coherent?

Try reading comprehension.
Previous poster stated we dont know what they did. Well, given their names and towns, we can look them up and see exactly what they did.

Well, we could if the database wasnt offline to protect criminals.

Yeah,
so you don't even know why they were on the sex offender list, yet you're cheering for this canadian crackpot.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to rationalize how rape is the same degree offense as murder...

How about you try getting raped and seeing how life altering it is mentally. It isn't simply "Oh, I got raped, but I'm fine now that he is behind bars." Relationships could harder to hold onto or even start for that matter. Depression, and guilt might lead to suicide. What if your daughter was going through this during the 8 years that the rapist was in jail. Then you find out that he was released and your daughter still hasn't been back to normal. How do you deal with that?

If it turns out those men have truly raped someone (don't bring up statutory rape) then I will have NO sympathy for them. For all we know the killer could have been raped by them. I have urges to hit some people but don't act upon them because I have SELF CONTROL.

But seriously, we do not know the background to this case to go accusing.

Even with these circumstances, would you prefer your daughter a) raped b) killed. Unless you're indifferent in this selection, the due punishments cannot be the same (ie execution). This is really the foundation of justice (the philosophy behind it) - having a punishment that fit the crime

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

errr whaa?
Breathe into a paper bag for 30 secons and then maybe try posting something coherent?

Try reading comprehension.
Previous poster stated we dont know what they did. Well, given their names and towns, we can look them up and see exactly what they did.

Well, we could if the database wasnt offline to protect criminals.

Yeah,
so you don't even know why they were on the sex offender list, yet you're cheering for this canadian crackpot.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to rationalize how rape is the same degree offense as murder...

Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

I'll call that assuming when you have absolutely 0 proof to go by. That's pretty damn ignorant in itself, as is your support for this kid who killed 2 guys.

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

I'll call that assuming when you have absolutely 0 proof to go by. That's pretty damn ignorant in itself, as is your support for this kid who killed 2 guys.

Not to mention that he's completly missed the point, even if the two guys were convicted rape 1st class, it's unjust to have them executed... which is also why the action of the canadian kid were against the law.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

I'll call that assuming when you have absolutely 0 proof to go by. That's pretty damn ignorant in itself, as is your support for this kid who killed 2 guys.

Call it what you will the fact remains. 57 year olds dont become registered sex offenders for dating thier high school girlfriend.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

I'll call that assuming when you have absolutely 0 proof to go by. That's pretty damn ignorant in itself, as is your support for this kid who killed 2 guys.

Not to mention that he's completly missed the point, even if the two guys were convicted rape 1st class, it's unjust to have them executed... which is also why the action of the canadian kid were against the law.

Why not??
Why should rapists be free to walk around?

 

[NaOH]

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: AMDUALY

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: halik

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
It's so funny how people defend our constitution so vigorously and b1tch about how bush is hurting our rights yet they think it's perfectly fine for a kid to gun down two sex offenders.. (Clearly not believing in justice)

I think its safe to say the "Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness" also includes the right of not being raped and murdered when your 12.

Maybe I'm just funny like that though, thinking people who rape 12 year olds shouldnt be out in the general public.

This whole bullsh1t of making criminals out to be victims is one of the reasons we have so much crime. They rape a 12 year old, we give'm some probahtion, send them out to rape a 10 year old, give'm a few years in jail.

Hey, not their fault they want to rape minors, thier just victims too. :disgust:

That's great,
but the article doesn't mention anything about who did what. For all you know, the 24 y/o kid got charged with statutory rape because his gf's parents didn't like him.

In either case, I can't imagine how you'd try to rationalize that execution is due punishment for rape, especially since it implies that rape as an offense is of the same degree as murder (rape...get executed, murder...get executed => rape = murder). By that logic, victims should be indifferent between getting murdered and getting raped, which clearly isn't the case.

Lets find out!
From the article

The shootings of Joseph L. Gray, 57, of Milo, and William Elliott, 24, of Corinth,

We can go see exactly what they did.
Oh wait, no we cant. Because CRIMINALS have MORE rights then law abiding citizens!!

led state police to take down the Maine Sex Offender Registry Web site as a precaution, state Department of Public Safety spokesman Stephen McCausland said

errr whaa?
Breathe into a paper bag for 30 secons and then maybe try posting something coherent?

Try reading comprehension.
Previous poster stated we dont know what they did. Well, given their names and towns, we can look them up and see exactly what they did.

Well, we could if the database wasnt offline to protect criminals.

Yeah,
so you don't even know why they were on the sex offender list, yet you're cheering for this canadian crackpot.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for you to rationalize how rape is the same degree offense as murder...

How about you try getting raped and seeing how life altering it is mentally. It isn't simply "Oh, I got raped, but I'm fine now that he is behind bars." Relationships could harder to hold onto or even start for that matter. Depression, and guilt might lead to suicide. What if your daughter was going through this during the 8 years that the rapist was in jail. Then you find out that he was released and your daughter still hasn't been back to normal. How do you deal with that?

If it turns out those men have truly raped someone (don't bring up statutory rape) then I will have NO sympathy for them. For all we know the killer could have been raped by them. I have urges to hit some people but don't act upon them because I have SELF CONTROL.

But seriously, we do not know the background to this case to go accusing.

Even with these circumstances, would you prefer your daughter a) raped b) killed. Unless you're indifferent in this selection, the due punishments cannot be the same (ie execution). This is really the foundation of justice (the philosophy behind it) - having a punishment that fit the crime

If it leads to her having a depressing, lonely and sad life which could lead to suicide then I would have rather she passed away a long time ago then to endure the pain of reliving what happened for the time she was a live, post rape. Being raped usually has devastating effects (even for men). You might not feel the same about having your daughter raped.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

I'll call that assuming when you have absolutely 0 proof to go by. That's pretty damn ignorant in itself, as is your support for this kid who killed 2 guys.

Call it what you will the fact remains. 57 year olds dont become registered sex offenders for dating thier high school girlfriend.

Oh so now you are "guessing" when he became a registered sex offender?

sweet! more ignorance from you.

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

I'll call that assuming when you have absolutely 0 proof to go by. That's pretty damn ignorant in itself, as is your support for this kid who killed 2 guys.

Call it what you will the fact remains. 57 year olds dont become registered sex offenders for dating thier high school girlfriend.

Oh so now you are "guessing" when he became a registered sex offender?

sweet! more ignorance from you.

Like I said, until the databse comes back online no one knows.
But all the FACTS are there. Scared of that word arent you. Most liberals are.

So I say again, wanna make a friendly wager on it? Say a buck, cause thats roughly equal to a soda.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Call it an educated guess.
The 57 year old wasnt on their for handin our flowers I'll damn well gaurentee you that much.

And aside from that, I'm pretty sure this kid didnt just pick the first two names off the list.

Remember that case out in Seattle I think it was here a year or so ago. 2 Lvl III offenders were offed by some guy claiming to be FBI.

People dont go out and kill someone who streaked across the football field during a game.

But lets make it interesting. Wanna make a friendly wager out of it?

I'll call that assuming when you have absolutely 0 proof to go by. That's pretty damn ignorant in itself, as is your support for this kid who killed 2 guys.

Call it what you will the fact remains. 57 year olds dont become registered sex offenders for dating thier high school girlfriend.

Oh so now you are "guessing" when he became a registered sex offender?

sweet! more ignorance from you.

Like I said, until the databse comes back online no one knows.
But all the FACTS are there. Scared of that word arent you. Most liberals are.

So I say again, wanna make a friendly wager on it? Say a buck, cause thats roughly equal to a soda.

umm ... actually you are wrong, there are no FACTS as you so put it, about how or why this guy became registered as a sexual offender. so no, i'm not scared of the word.

and in courst, FACTS as you so called put it, is the reason OJ walked away from murder, but "everyone really knows what happened" ... right?

 

[Boxxcar]

I believe be a good punishment for criminal rape would be castration!
I'm not talking about date rape. I mean the type of guy who goes out at night, stalks a girl, and violented beats and rapes her. If murder takes place as well then the guy is castrated, sent to prison for exactly one year, and scheduled for execution! Let him live in prision for 365 days without a c*ck!
Child molesters on the other hand get what they deserve. They don't need to be placed on a register, they need to be taken out back of the court house and executed then and there.
If some bastard raped my 13 yr old daughter, I would be more than happy to pull the trigger!

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: purbeast0
umm ... actually you are wrong, there are no FACTS as you so put it, about how or why this guy became registered as a sexual offender. so no, i'm not scared of the word.

and in courst, FACTS as you so called put it, is the reason OJ walked away from murder, but "everyone really knows what happened" ... right?

There is a fact. One you have continued to overlook.
57 year olds generally arent on the List because way back in the 60's they decided to date their girlfriend when they were 18.

But you can pick and choose what to believe if it makes you feel better. 🙂