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Kick Ass

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classy said:
Mad. What are you some kind pedo ahole? The girl is 13 bleeping years old. Posting pics and hoping she does a nude scene is way over the damn top. Just because some kid does a movie should not some how be an allowance for sexual inappropiate posts. What? Now on the forum its okay to make sexual references for 13 year old girls? That post referring to wanting nude scenes should be deleted.
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To play devil's advocate: he isn't saying anything about molesting her. He just expressed his desire to see her naked. Not quite as horrific, but horrific all the same. "Look but don't touch" draws the very blatant line between a pedo and a child molestors.
 
I saw it. I think overall I'd say it was decent, but nothing great. For my tastes the violence (at least earlier in the film) was too over the top. There were also a few scenes I considered unnecessary, or at least they didn't fit into the story well (basically all the "sex" stuff).
The fight scenes were pretty cool though, more so towards the end. I also liked the soundtrack, although supposedly it's quite derivative of 28 Days Later.
I liked Cage's performance, he seemed to fit the character very well. Of the characters themselves, my favorite is Hit Girl. I think that is due to the mature way in which she handles herself despite being a kid. I really empathized with Marcus wanting to give her a proper childhood.
I read up on the differences with the comic and film and am satisfied with the script divergences. If it was completely true to the comic I don't think I would have liked it as much.
And I don't know why Ebert is knocking this movie.

Fritzo said:
You know, it probably is a good movie, but Roger is correct. Stories and movies usually tell of bad behavior, and then rectify it at the end. In this case, we're showing some of the worst behavior, and the people doing this behavior are being cheered on and made into heros.

His point is, what will next be acceptable in movies? A 12 year old that goes around raping women to impregnate them to save his family? A 10 year old that becomes a cannibal to save his dog?

We have the right to make and show any movies we wish in this country, but if you don't feel right after seeing them, there's probably something wrong with it's message. Kick-Ass is one of those movies. Probably why it's rated R, yet I'm a little concerned that it still seems to be marketed to kids.
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That sounds a bit too disney. I haven't seen the Saw series, but they synopses I've read depicts them as much worse than Kick-Ass. The Saw genre sounds like straight up horrorporn, and I'm pretty sure the villian never gets caught.
How is Kick-Ass depicting the worst behavior and having it rewarded? I can think of several instances where characters were punished for their actions.
While I wouldn't take a child to see it (hence the R rating) I wouldn't consider the film morally reprehensible either.
 
Terzo said:
I saw it. I think overall I'd say it was decent, but nothing great. For my tastes the violence (at least earlier in the film) was too over the top. There were also a few scenes I considered unnecessary, or at least they didn't fit into the story well (basically all the "sex" stuff).
The fight scenes were pretty cool though, more so towards the end. I also liked the soundtrack, although supposedly it's quite derivative of 28 Days Later.
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John Murphy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0614373/ ) did this film as well as 28 Days/Weeks Later. The only song that really stands out is from the Big Daddy warehouse scene where it's a sort of remix of Leaving England from 28 Weeks Later.

Terzo said:
That sounds a bit too disney. I haven't seen the Saw series, but they synopses I've read depicts them as much worse than Kick-Ass. The Saw genre sounds like straight up horrorporn, and I'm pretty sure the villian never gets caught.
How is Kick-Ass depicting the worst behavior and having it rewarded? I can think of several instances where characters were punished for their actions.
While I wouldn't take a child to see it (hence the R rating) I wouldn't consider the film morally reprehensible either.
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What I don't quite get about Ebert's and even Fritzo's comments are how far they take it. They pull out examples that don't even match what occurs in the film and essentially try to villainize the heroes. In the movie, both Big Daddy and Hit Girl specifically target a drug kingpin and his henchmen/dealers. If this were simply Big Daddy killing the people, you wouldn't even bat an eye at it... it's an adult taking down other bad adults. You have a problem with something you consider innocent (a young girl) acting completely out of the norm and taking out baddies like she's shooting fish in a barrel.

This isn't even a question of whether the movie or not is good... it's simply these people looking on their narrow viewpoint being unable to see what's really going on.

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What I find a bit more amusing is that no one complained that Big Daddy and Hit Girl stole money and drugs from the people they killed and then sold it to fund their "war" on the drug kingpin. They just sat there focusing on the violence rather than the fact that they propagated the "drug problem" 😛.
 
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Terzo said:
I saw it. I think overall I'd say it was decent, but nothing great. For my tastes the violence (at least earlier in the film) was too over the top. There were also a few scenes I considered unnecessary, or at least they didn't fit into the story well (basically all the "sex" stuff).
The fight scenes were pretty cool though, more so towards the end. I also liked the soundtrack, although supposedly it's quite derivative of 28 Days Later.
I liked Cage's performance, he seemed to fit the character very well. Of the characters themselves, my favorite is Hit Girl. I think that is due to the mature way in which she handles herself despite being a kid. I really empathized with Marcus wanting to give her a proper childhood.
I read up on the differences with the comic and film and am satisfied with the script divergences. If it was completely true to the comic I don't think I would have liked it as much.
And I don't know why Ebert is knocking this movie.


That sounds a bit too disney. I haven't seen the Saw series, but they synopses I've read depicts them as much worse than Kick-Ass. The Saw genre sounds like straight up horrorporn, and I'm pretty sure the villian never gets caught.
How is Kick-Ass depicting the worst behavior and having it rewarded? I can think of several instances where characters were punished for their actions.
While I wouldn't take a child to see it (hence the R rating) I wouldn't consider the film morally reprehensible either.
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That's the whole problem- the movie is clearly being marketed to younger-teens, and it's R rated with good reason.
 
Fritzo said:
That's the whole problem- the movie is clearly being marketed to younger-teens, and it's R rated with good reason.
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I really don't see how it's marketed to younger-teens. Because the characters are younger? To me, it looks like it's marketed to 16-25 year old males.
 
I feel like I would have really liked it if I hadn't seen so many interviews and footage before it came out. So many of the best lines and action scenes were released for promotion. So I thought it was ok, which is disappointing. Maybe the sequel will be better.
 
TheVrolok said:
I really don't see how it's marketed to younger-teens. Because the characters are younger? To me, it looks like it's marketed to 16-25 year old males.
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16 at the youngest, it really feels like it is marketed more towards 17 or 18 to 25 year olds.

KT
 
thought it was a great movie, and one of the few i would actually want to see again...it wasn't all all exactly like the comic book, but then again what movie is?...
 
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