ketchup ? Catsup?

Sea Moose

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I was thinking. <--- (yes, it does hurt)


In America you guys call tomato sauce "Ketchup" does that mean you call tomato soup "Ketchup Soup"

And where does the word "ketchup" come from?

Could a resident of the US of A clear this problem for me?


btw moshquerade you can woo me with tomato soup ;)
 

Sea Moose

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I could have googled it myself. I wanted to hear atot peoples theories.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Narse
Tomato sauce is not ketchup.

Explain

Do I have to direct you to wikipedia too?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomato_sauce
A tomato sauce is any of a very large number of sauces made primarily out of tomatoes,


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketchup
The primary ingredients in a typical modern ketchup are tomato concentrate, corn syrup (or other sugar), vinegar, salt, spice and herb extracts (including celery), spice and garlic powder[1].

Although ketchup today is invariably tomato-based, some ketchup recipes from the 19th century did not include tomato at all and were closer to what would be called a relish today.
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: Narse
Tomato sauce is not ketchup.

Explain
Come on, you can't be serious? Go Google it for 5 seconds. One's a fairly sweet condiment, the other is a thick & flavorful (but not necessarily sweet) cooking ingredient.
 

allisolm

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose


In America you guys call tomato sauce "Ketchup" does that mean you call tomato soup "Ketchup Soup"


There's your problem. In Australia you guys call ketchup "tomato sauce." :)
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: Sea Moose


In America you guys call tomato sauce "Ketchup" does that mean you call tomato soup "Ketchup Soup"


There's your problem. In Australia you guys call ketchup "tomato sauce." :)

Now im getting somewhere :D Based on the logic that you guys call tomato sauce "ketchup"
do you guys call tomato soup "Ketchup soup"?
 

Dirigible

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The stores all used to have ketchup and catsup. They were exactly the same, but with different names so I could choose one or the other and be happy either way. Now the stores only have ketchup. I have no choice in my condiment and am very angry. What the fuck happened to freedom? What the fuck happened to AMERICA???

Now when I want catsup I need to go to Mexico to get it. And it comes with a parrot on the bottle. A fucking parrot!

I am going to write a letter to Obama to get him to take down the evil ketchup conspiracy. Australian morons are probably the perpetrators.
 

Tiamat

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: allisolm
Originally posted by: Sea Moose


In America you guys call tomato sauce "Ketchup" does that mean you call tomato soup "Ketchup Soup"


There's your problem. In Australia you guys call ketchup "tomato sauce." :)

Now im getting somewhere :D Based on the logic that you guys call tomato sauce "ketchup"
do you guys call tomato soup "Ketchup soup"?

no, because your logic is flawed. The term "you guys" is referring particularly to Americans in general in your OP. As Americans and Australians appear to define "tomato sauce" differently, as noted in the wikipedia links above, the connection cannot be made.

In other words, FAIL.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
Originally posted by: fatpat268
Uh... no

Tomato soup is tomato soup.

then why is tomato sauce "ketchup"

It isn't.

I suppose you could stretch it and say that Ketchup is a kind of tomato sauce, but as the wikipedia links show, it isn't in some cases.

So ketchup and tomato sauce are two different products that happen to typically include the same primary ingredients.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Sea Moose
I was thinking. <--- (yes, it does hurt)


In America you guys call tomato sauce "Ketchup" does that mean you call tomato soup "Ketchup Soup"

And where does the word "ketchup" come from?

Could a resident of the US of A clear this problem for me?


btw moshquerade you can woo me with tomato soup ;)
it's Saturday night there, shouldn't you be out getting blasted and picking up hot chicks?

 

IronWing

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Ketchup => trademarked by Heinz (might be expired now)
Catsup => name that sounds a lot like ketchup but isn't trademarked
 

Sea Moose

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Sea Moose
I was thinking. <--- (yes, it does hurt)


In America you guys call tomato sauce "Ketchup" does that mean you call tomato soup "Ketchup Soup"

And where does the word "ketchup" come from?

Could a resident of the US of A clear this problem for me?


btw moshquerade you can woo me with tomato soup ;)
it's Saturday night there, shouldn't you be out getting blasted and picking up hot chicks?

but im a nerd