Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
All we want is a debate, and so far conservatives have not brought any substantial arguments to the table. For example, take CAD's post, where he actually manages to address the subject at hand for once.
I think a reasonable hypothesis for a shift would be that a lot of liberals have shown up because they think the WAR supports their positions. Before the WAR, a reasonable- albeit still weak - argument could be made that Saddam was contained and had given up his WMDs and had destroyed them per his agreement. Now that some WMDs have been found the liberals try to excuse it as "left-overs" and "random". You still have some guerrilla fighters like <insert liberal poster here> who just makes nonsensical posts and rarely states his stance - just tries to question everyone else. Then you have infohawk who doesn't ever post anything of substance - just whines and bleats about nonsensical "reasoning"(not that "reason" or "logic" are his strong suit). I've run into a couple reasonable liberal posters, but that's it. The way things currently are there just isn't much of an argument you could make for kerry or liberals generally. Basically, since we have found WMDs in Iraq - it doesn't surprise me that the liberals dismiss the finds - they have to dismiss it since they have claimed Saddam had destroyed them or never possessed them. As it is, they(liberals) have no leg to stand on and the majority of liberals here are fanatical diehards who just hate Bush and don't see logic as something to to be embraced- as emotions and feelings are what is to be heeded.
Bowfinger, quickly dismissed this WEAK argument with the following.
Contrary to Sir Cad's perverse twist on this, there is no elitism involved. It's simply an observation that the Bushies cannot defend their guy. Over the last few months, the closest they've come is one old artillery shell. When we've pointed out that this find is to be expected, that we never claimed Iraq had zero WMDs, that one shell does not come close to the Bush administration claims about Iraq's WMDs, that even the Bush administration and experts like David Kay downplay the significance of the find, they ignore these inconvenient facts. Instead, they keep bleating the same disinformation and diversions.
That is why conservatives cannot debate on the Iraq issue. They have absolutely nothing to stand on. Look at CAD pathetic attempt at an argument, shot down immediately by Bowfinger. CAD knows that any sort of argument he will make will get shot down in a similar manner, so he'd rather save himself the embarassment and charge people of elitism and other ridiculous things while completely AVOIDING the subject at hand. It's a downright fallacy to claim one old artillery shell as a WMD, hell there are people in the US with more weapons than Sadamm in their backyards.
