Kerry to be nominated as secretary of state

[WhipperSnapper]

http://news.msn.com/politics/media-reports-kerry-to-be-nominated-as-secretary-of-state

So this should make MA politics a little bit more interesting, will be curious to see who the Dems try to put up as a candidate and if Scott Brown runs on the Republican side again...

What I would be interested to know is if the Democrats could nominate a ham sandwich and still win. Given the Republican's fiscal cliff issue and their painting themselves as the party of the 1%, how popular could they be right now in a traditionally liberal state like Massachusetts?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hell, Happy puppy deserved the purple heart more than Kerry, but he was just a grunt. That said Kerry won't be any worse than anyone else.

 

[bozack]

We have plenty to run against Brown. Although he isn't a bad guy. I'd bet he'd distance himself from the right even more on a second run. Dems in MA currently have a Kennedy, Barney Frank and potentially Deval.
Personally I'd love to see Frank/Warren beat the crap out of bankers.

Huh?

The Kennedy is a joke, elected just for his name brand.

Frank is a hack, should have been booted out ages ago

And Deval I feel is holding out for bigger and better things than Kerry's replacement.

Can't think of another Major Dem player ready to run against a household name like Brown but until Kerry is named "the one" it is all speculation

 

[bozack]

What I would be interested to know is if the Democrats could nominate a ham sandwich and still win. Given the Republican's fiscal cliff issue and their painting themselves as the party of the 1%, how popular could they be right now in a traditionally liberal state like Massachusetts?

Well you've got a point, many in MA vote the party and not the logic, hence why our finances are as fucked up as they are.....

But I'd like to think that on some level they consider the individual, and IMHO Brown is pretty damn centrist....far more moderate than any of the liberal hacks we have representing in other areas.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I forgot Bill Weld is back in MA again too. He is a Republican but one from a different era.

 

[lopri]

Scott Brown's "fresh" image has long gone in MA, unless what my friend there says is completely off-base. I don't think many consider him a material for the U.S. Senate. Of course that never stops clowns to be elected and you can always depend on partisan votes, but over the past few years Mr. Brown's brand has left few, if any, mystery for voters to be fantasized. XD

Of course Dems could f*** it up by nominating equally uninspiring candidate, too.

 

[Lemon law]

Huh?

The Kennedy is a joke, elected just for his name brand.

Frank is a hack, should have been booted out ages ago

And Deval I feel is holding out for bigger and better things than Kerry's replacement.

Can't think of another Major Dem player ready to run against a household name like Brown but until Kerry is named "the one" it is all speculation

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Earth to Bozack, your message may sell in a red state but not in true blue state like Massachusetts? But every once in a while Massachusetts voters may elect a charismatic GOP politicians like Brown or Romney. But still such GOP politicians are all one term wonders in Massachusetts? Such it was for Romney and so it was for Scott Brown.

For the GOP, politicians like Romney and Brown are way too liberal to tolerate, and hence they must become reborn to regain GOP acceptance. As for the voters in Massachusetts, Brown and Romney were way too GOP idiotic too stand a snowballs chance in hell in terms of winning a second term. Massachusetts voters tried Scott Brown once, and said never again the second time. Its a total GOP fantasy that the third time will work out any better.
Especially since Mitt Romney could not now run for dog catcher in Massachusetts and have a chance of winning.

Bozact, you are talking a whole State of Massachusetts who do not buy your bullshit. They tried it and they they did not like it.

 

[MagickMan]

I was wondering when Herman Munster would find a new job.

 

[IGBT]

Mr.Ed gets a new job. Did you know he served in Vietnam?? And lied about nearly everything he did there.

 

[bozack]

Scott Brown's "fresh" image has long gone in MA, unless what my friend there says is completely off-base. I don't think many consider him a material for the U.S. Senate. Of course that never stops clowns to be elected and you can always depend on partisan votes, but over the past few years Mr. Brown's brand has left few, if any, mystery for voters to be fantasized. XD

Of course Dems could f*** it up by nominating equally uninspiring candidate, too.

Who is your friend and where do they lean on the spectrum, a good number of areas led for Brown, the one I live in was one of them....

The only things that turned people off to him in the election was the fact he wasn't a dem, the unions mobilized behind Warren, and the way he harped on her use of her ancestry for personal/professional gain as most didn't care.

As for his performance, only the die hard leftists had a real "issue" with his policies, most saw him as centrist and a relatable character.

 

[bozack]

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Earth to Bozack, your message may sell in a red state but not in true blue state like Massachusetts? But every once in a while Massachusetts voters may elect a charismatic GOP politicians like Brown or Romney. But still such GOP politicians are all one term wonders in Massachusetts? Such it was for Romney and so it was for Scott Brown.

For the GOP, politicians like Romney and Brown are way too liberal to tolerate, and hence they must become reborn to regain GOP acceptance. As for the voters in Massachusetts, Brown and Romney were way too GOP idiotic too stand a snowballs chance in hell in terms of winning a second term. Massachusetts voters tried Scott Brown once, and said never again the second time. Its a total GOP fantasy that the third time will work out any better.
Especially since Mitt Romney could not now run for dog catcher in Massachusetts and have a chance of winning.

Bozact, you are talking a whole State of Massachusetts who do not buy your bullshit. They tried it and they they did not like it.

You may be correct in that the electorate won't be open to him just coming off of a loss, but try and name one Democrat in the state that would be a viable alternative who has name brand recognition??

I live here and cannot think of one...

Also nice strawman with Romney, at what point did that name ever come up in this thread?

Brown was in and out very quickly and didn't have the stage to damage himself like Romney did....the only failing on his part was not getting the unions behind him, and even with that he did have the Firefighters and Police if memory serves me.

It wouldn't surprise me if they vote in some no experience hack like they did with the latest Kennedy, or some liberal elitist as they did with Warren, but at least it won't be Kerry any longer so for that hopefully only good will come as he like so many others in this state occupy their seats for far too long.

 

[nageov3t]

Given all the other options being cited, I think its very premature to assume Kerry is a shoe in for Sec of State.

Sooner or later Obama must nominate some one to replace Hillary, until then why speculate?

what would ATP&N be without speculation?

in any event, you may need to have a sitdown with the NY Times --

Obama Expected to Name Kerry as Secretary of State

But the announcement will be delayed, at least until later this week and maybe beyond, because of the Connecticut school shooting and what one official called “some discomfort” with the idea of Mr. Obama’s announcing a national security team in which the top posts are almost exclusively held by white men.

 

[bozack]

what would ATP&N be without speculation?

in any event, you may need to have a sitdown with the NY Times --

Obama Expected to Name Kerry as Secretary of State

I think my first post also had a news source listed, so it wasn't like my just pulling it out of the air.....

I think the speculative part was more on my comments re. Scott Brown and viability for another run....

Again, I think it is unlikely given how partisan this state is and how blind they are to actual performance over name brand, but it isn't something that should be summarily discounted....

 

[piasabird]

Kerry voted against almost everything for the military. He told all kinds of lies about military being baby killers. He is such a nice guy. The fact that his wife is rich will have no bearing on the case.

 

[Fern]

I'm a bit surprised there seems so few worthy Democratic candidates for cabinet positions.

What about Bill Richardson?

Why no consideration of him as SoS?

Fern