Kerry should release his military records

Riprorin

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President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?
I don't know, why?
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?
I don't know, why?

Do you always reply to a question with a question?

Maybe he has something to hide?

You tell me, he's your man.
 

biostud

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It was because he was in "wet" operations branch in spec ops, they're highly confidential. :p
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?
I don't know, why?

Do you always reply to a question with a question?
Oh I thought it was some kind of riddle.

Maybe he had something to hide?
I sincerely doubt it since he is using his Service Record as part of his campaign

You tell me, he's your man.
Where'd you get that impression? Just because I think the Dub is an incompetant President at best doesn't mean that I think Kerry would make a good president. The way I see it is this election is between the lessor of two weasals. If Kerry were President and he lied to me to get my support for invading and occupying another country I would bash him every chance I got too. I never forgave assholes who lie to me for the purpose of manipulating me.

Anyway since I am living in MASS where Kerry is obviously going to win the Electoral votes I am going to write in McCain for President as my vote wouldn't make any difference one way or the other (the Electoral College makes ones vote rather worthless)
 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?

Probably because he didn't serve in the the national guard

I believe it was some other branch of the military.
:D

Who says politics can't be fun??
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?

Kerry should release his military records so the Republicans can not use this to divert attention away from the important issues: the Iraqi war, jobs, ecology, etc. I want the Republicans to stay on topic.

 

Riprorin

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No one here is aware that veterans and others have raised questions anout Kerry's record in Vietnam and the circumstances surrounding his medal awards?

Sen. Kerry should clarify his war record by authorizing the release of his service records as President Bush did. If the allegations ares wrong, then Kerry's war record stands to his credit. If he does not authorize release of the records, the questions and charges remain, and one can conclude that there is substance to them.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?
I don't know, why?

Do you always reply to a question with a question?
Oh I thought it was some kind of ridule.

Maybe he had something to hide?
I sincerely doubt it since he is using his Service Record as part of his campaign

You tell me, he's your man.
Where'd you get that impression? Just because I think the Dub is an incompetant President at best doesn't mean that I think Kerry would make a good president. The way I see it is this election is between the lessor of two weasals. If Kerry were President and he lied to me to get my support for invading and occupying another country I would bash him every chance I got too. I never forgave assholes who lie to me for the purpose of manipulating me.

Anyway since I am living in MASS where Kerry is obviously going to win the Electoral votes I am going to write in McCain for President as my vote wouldn't make any difference one way or the other (the Electoral College makes ones vote rather worthless)

I thought the best Dem candidate was Joe Lieberman. I don't agree with Gephart, but I respect him. The rest were a bunch of clowns.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
President Bush recently authorized the release of his complete file of his military service in the National Guard.

Why doesn't Kerry do the same?
I don't know, why?

Do you always reply to a question with a question?
Oh I thought it was some kind of riddle.

Maybe he had something to hide?
I sincerely doubt it since he is using his Service Record as part of his campaign

You tell me, he's your man.
Where'd you get that impression? Just because I think the Dub is an incompetant President at best doesn't mean that I think Kerry would make a good president. The way I see it is this election is between the lessor of two weasals. If Kerry were President and he lied to me to get my support for invading and occupying another country I would bash him every chance I got too. I never forgave assholes who lie to me for the purpose of manipulating me.

Anyway since I am living in MASS where Kerry is obviously going to win the Electoral votes I am going to write in McCain for President as my vote wouldn't make any difference one way or the other (the Electoral College makes ones vote rather worthless)

I thought the best Dem candidate was Joe Lieberman. I don't agree with Gephart, but I respect him. The rest were a bunch of clowns.
Doesn't say much for the Dub when a Clown can cause him so much grief when it comes to getting re-elected!
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Just because I think the Dub is an incompetant President at best ...
You praise him too highly.
Catholic Veterans??
Red -- You're in the Boston area. You should know we're not talking about veterans of rough encounters with the clergy. :Q
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
What veterans have raised questions? Jealous republicans that's who. The whole topic is irrelevant today.

Oh, so Bush's military record was relevant but Kerry's isn't. Sen. Kerry should authorize the realease of his military records just ans President Bush has. What does he have to hide?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
What veterans have raised questions? Jealous republicans that's who. The whole topic is irrelevant today.

Oh, so Bush's military record was relevant but Kerry's isn't. Sen. Kerry should authorize the realease of his military records just ans President Bush has. What does he have to hide?
Is it actually an issue? If it is he should.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Just because I think the Dub is an incompetant President at best ...
You praise him too highly.
Catholic Veterans??
Red -- You're in the Boston area. You should know we're not talking about veterans of rough encounters with the clergy. :Q

I know it's difficult, but given that you guys appear to have a one-track mind, but can we stay on topic?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Just because I think the Dub is an incompetant President at best ...
You praise him too highly.
Catholic Veterans??
Red -- You're in the Boston area. You should know we're not talking about veterans of rough encounters with the clergy. :Q

I know it's difficult, but given that you guys appear to have a one-track mind, but can we stay on topic?
Yeah like you don't have an obvious agenda??LOL:)

 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
What veterans have raised questions? Jealous republicans that's who. The whole topic is irrelevant today.

Oh, so Bush's military record was relevant but Kerry's isn't. Sen. Kerry should authorize the realease of his military records just ans President Bush has. What does he have to hide?
Is it actually an issue? If it is he should.

According to recent news articles, within 24 hours of being assigned to a Swiftbaot on Dec. 1, 1968, he was awarded the first of three Purple Hearts collected during the four months he spent in Vietnam. He did not lose even one day of duty from his wounds, raising questions among some veterans about how serious they were. He apparently used the Purple Hearts to cut short his tour in Vietnam by eight months.

Kery's Silver Star award for gallantry involved a rocket attack by a Viet Cong soldier on his boat. Kerry's crew seriosuly wounded the enemy soldier. Kerry then beached his boat (A serious breach of procedure), chased the wounded man down and killed him.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
What veterans have raised questions? Jealous republicans that's who. The whole topic is irrelevant today.

Oh, so Bush's military record was relevant but Kerry's isn't. Sen. Kerry should authorize the realease of his military records just ans President Bush has. What does he have to hide?
Is it actually an issue? If it is he should.

According to recent news articles, within 24 hours of being assigned to a Swiftbaot on Dec. 1, 1968, he was awarded the first of three Purple Hearts collected during the four months he spent in Vietnam. He did not lose even one day of duty from his wounds, raising questions among some veterans about how serious they were. He apparently used the Purple Hearts to cut short his tour in Vietnam by eight months.

Kery's Silver Star award for gallantry involved a rocket attack by a Viet Cong soldier on his boat. Kerry's crew seriosuly wounded the enemy soldier. Kerry then beached his boat (A serious breach of procedure), chased the wounded man down and killed him.
Good Job Kerry!

 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Just because I think the Dub is an incompetant President at best ...
You praise him too highly.
Catholic Veterans??
Red -- You're in the Boston area. You should know we're not talking about veterans of rough encounters with the clergy. :Q

I know it's difficult, but given that you guys appear to have a one-track mind, but can we stay on topic?
Yeah like you don't have an obvious agenda??LOL:)

I just don't think that Catholic clergy have anything to do with this topic.

 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: BugsBunny1078
What veterans have raised questions? Jealous republicans that's who. The whole topic is irrelevant today.

Here's a veteran that doesn't care for him much:

Washington Times

LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
December 6, 2002

John Kerry's war record

As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers
a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few
things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned ?
and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans
Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned
their backs on him and walked away. They remembered
Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified
before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of
being war criminals. The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's
pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a
photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the
U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the
flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American
flag. Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that
Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given
aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of
Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when
he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the
White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his.
Now they are displayed on his office wall.

Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings,
Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with
Hanoi. At the same time, his cousin C. Stewart Forbes,
chief executive for Colliers International, assisted
in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea
port at Vung Tau, Vietnam ? an odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14
(Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr.
Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the
senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the
Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a
vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would
deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear
signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the
human rights for which so many Americans fought and
died.

The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10
regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom.
Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian
ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by
mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders
had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone. On Oct.
29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by
lethal injection simply for protesting religious
repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom
against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a
mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce
Christianity. Thousands have been killed or imprisoned
or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost
one-half of their adult male population fighting for
the United States, and without them, there might be
thousands more American names on that somber black
granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency,
people must remember that he has fought harder for
Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he
did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in
the Navy in Vietnam.


MICHAEL BENGE
Foreign Service officer and former Vietnam POW (1968
to 1973)
Washington


 

Red Dawn

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Actually Kerry and the Viet Nam Veterans against the War gave legitamcy to the Anti War Movement which actually saved thousands of American Lives by forcing the Nixon Regime to end our Military Involvement in Viet Nam. For that he should be commended!
 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin

Here's a veteran that doesn't care for him much...
OK. So let's think about that for a minute. We were misled by our own government about the reasons we were in Viet Nam. That isn't to demean the service and sacrifice by those troops who fought there, but we were there under false pretenses. Sound familiar... < cough > Iraq < cough > ??? :Q

Now, you and I may not approve of Viet Nam's form of government, or even the way they treat their citizens, but unlike North Korea, they are developing as a nation, both in the standard of living available to their citizens, and in internal and international trade. AND, unlike North Korea, they they don't have nukes, nor, as far as we know, are they posing any threat of devloping any WMD's. :Q

Still, they do have a lot of people in need of development, and a lot of what they have to overcome is the damage we did to them. Under those conditions, exploring ways of improving relations with them doesn't seem particularly outrageous or even wrong.