Kerry connected to the 9/11 "outrage"?

alchemize

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(MRS.) KERRY'S CASH CONNECTION

March 9, 2004 -- To hear some folks tell it, families of the 9/11 victims have risen en masse to denounce President Bush for using brief images from Ground Zero in his campaign commercials.

We have no doubt that the use of the images is appropriate - given that the president's leadership in the wake of 9/11, and his conduct of the War on Terror, are under drumbeat assault by John Kerry and the Democrats.

But now it turns out that this whole furor is driven by a tiny group that's motivated by a far-left agenda and a festering hatred of the president - and has some quite dubious financial ties.

Leading the rhetorical charge has been an outfit called September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows - which, the group admits, has only a few dozen members and represents relatives of no more than 1 percent of the 9/11 victims.

More to the point, the group was formed specifically to oppose the entire War on Terror: Not just the campaign against Saddam Hussein, but also the toppling of the Taliban in Afghanistan.

Indeed, the group's leaders traveled to Afghanistan, drawing a detestable moral equivalence between the 9/11 attacks and U.S. bombing of the Taliban and opposing "violent responses to terrorism."

Then, before the onset of Operation Iraqi Freedom, a Peaceful Tomorrows delegation went to Baghdad to "demonstrate solidarity" with Iraqis - a move that Saddam's deputy, Tariq Aziz, termed at the time "a very important international development."

They also demanded that Congress set up a $20 million fund to compensate Afghan "victims" of the U.S. military.

And back in January 2003, the group said had it had gotten a "verbal commitment" to the fund proposal from the junior senator from Massachusetts - John F. Kerry.

Little surprise there - because Peaceful Tomorrows' parent group, the San Francisco-based Tides Foundation, has received millions from foundations controlled by Kerry's heiress wife, Teresa Heinz Kerry.

A spokesman for Kerry insists that her donations to Tides were earmarked specifically for environmental charities based in Pennsylvania. But money is fungible - and the Tides Foundation has a lot more than greening the earth on its plate.

It has given millions to anti-war groups since 9/11 - particularly the extremist MoveOn.org.

Tides has also funded groups like United for a Fair Economy, which has been involved in violent anti-globalization street protests.

For example, the Ruckus Society, which was largely responsible for the anarchy in Seattle in 1999 and trains would-be environmental terrorists in the practice of "monkey-wrenching" - the willful destruction of construction equipment and so on.

Tides gets much of its funds from philanthropists like Mrs. Kerry and billionaire George Soros - who has made defeating President Bush his top personal priority.

As Richard Berman, director of the Center for Consumer Freedom, told Congress in 2002: "The Tides Foundation distributes other foundations' money, while shielding the identity of the actual donors."

Call it charitable money-laundering.

This, then, is the fringe crowd that declares itself "offended" by the Bush ads.

They're people who are offended by anything this president does - and they are working hard to put John Kerry in the White House.

Remember that the next time you hear a news report about "widespread popular outrage."
 

lozina

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A printed version of this article would make for good toilet paper.

This, then, is the fringe crowd that declares itself "offended" by the Bush ads.

They're people who are offended by anything this president does - and they are working hard to put John Kerry in the White House.

Remember that the next time you hear a news report about "widespread popular outrage."



The poll was taken Friday through Sunday. On Thursday, Bush launched TV ads in 17 states promoting his leadership in "tough times."

Even before they ran, the president was put on the defensive by some families of people who died in the World Trade Center, a firefighters union that endorsed Kerry and Democrats who said Bush was politicizing a national tragedy by using images of the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks. More than half of those surveyed, 54%, said Bush's use of the images was inappropriate.

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fjord

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Originally posted by: Tabb
Neither Kerry or Bush look like good presidents.....

Difference is Bush and his administration have proven their failure, beyond a doubt.
 

myusername

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"Tides gets much of its funds from philanthropists like Mrs. Kerry and billionaire George Soros - who has made defeating President Bush his top personal priority."

wow, I guess the 50% of this country (or wasn't it above 50% at last polling) is connected to the 9/11 outrage ... How sick is that?

 

EXman

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Difference is Bush and his administration have proven their failure, beyond a doubt.

Who said it is better to know the enemy you know than the one you don't?
 

CPA

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Originally posted by: fjord
Originally posted by: Tabb
Neither Kerry or Bush look like good presidents.....

Difference is Bush and his administration have proven their failure, beyond a doubt.

I love these types of slams with no objective support.
 

DealMonkey

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Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .
 

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Hmmmm. Looks as if some of the "furor" over Bush's 9/11 ads was manufactured. Could this be a campaign-finance law violation?
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?

Why alchie? Does Vietnam = 9/11 in your mind?
 

GoPackGo

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Not surprised...Kerry manufactured some good outrage over Vietnam as well.
 

CaptnKirk

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Join the

partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites

for Kerry !

We need your volts !
 

DealMonkey

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:music: It was a one-eyed, one-horned, flyin' purple people eater. Playin' rock and roll music through the horn in his head!
 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?

Why alchie? Does Vietnam = 9/11 in your mind?
Vietnam was a political violent event, a war. Kerry talks about his leadership and bravery.
9/11 was a political violent event, a terrorist attack. Bush talks about his leadership and response to terror.

Either both are OK, or both aren't.

 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?

Why alchie? Does Vietnam = 9/11 in your mind?
Vietnam was a political violent event, a war. Kerry talks about his leadership and bravery.
9/11 was a political violent event, a terrorist attack. Bush talks about his leadership and response to terror.

Either both are OK, or both aren't.


Kerry is neither a leader nor is he brave - he is a worthless tool.

The fact world leaders want him to win is proof he shouldn't

Ths US should not bow down or cater to the world.

They don't pay taxes in this country, are not citizens and deserve no representation.
 

Tab

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?

Why alchie? Does Vietnam = 9/11 in your mind?
Vietnam was a political violent event, a war. Kerry talks about his leadership and bravery.
9/11 was a political violent event, a terrorist attack. Bush talks about his leadership and response to terror.

Either both are OK, or both aren't.


Kerry is neither a leader nor is he brave - he is a worthless tool.

The fact world leaders want him to win is proof he shouldn't

Ths US should not bow down or cater to the world.

They don't pay taxes in this country, are not citizens and deserve no representation.

Yes, but we helped put Saddam in power. We should take some responsability, not to mention I beileve the US should attempt to be a world police. Whats wrong with showing democracy to other nations? We overstepped our bounds with Iraq. Doesn't mean we should pack up and leave.
 

Chris A

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Saturday, March 6, 2004 12:08 p.m. EST
Heinz Foundation Bankrolled Group Protesting Bush 9/11 Ads

The group Peaceful Tomorrows, which bills itself as an independent group of 9/11 victim families and whose members have led the charge to force the Bush re-election campaign to yank ads citing the Twin Towers attacks, has direct financial ties to the Heinz Foundation, the charitable trust administered by the wife of likely Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

On its Web site, Peaceful Tomorrows identifies itself as "a project of the Tides Center, a 501(c)3 non-profit organization."

A December 2003 report in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review detailed the financial relationship between the Tides Center and the charitable foundation controlled by Mrs. Heinz Kerry:

"Known as the Tides Center for Pennsylvania, formerly the Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania, it is a creation of the Tides Foundation and Center, headquartered in San Francisco, and two Pennsylvania-based foundations ? the Vira Heinz Endowment and the Howard Heinz Endowment ? chaired by Teresa Heinz Kerry."

According to the Tribune-Review, Mrs. Heinz Kerry funneled millions of dollars into the parent group of Peaceful Tomorrows:

"Between 1995 and 2001, $4.3 million of that money came from the Howard Heinz Endowment. In 2002, it and the Vira Heinz Endowment blessed The Tides Center, a San Francisco spin-off of the Tides Foundation, with another $190,000 while the two endowments gave $1.6 million to the new Tides Center for Western Pennsylvania," the paper revealed.

Though the Tribune-Review report was first unearthed by researchers on FreeRepublic.com within 36 hours of the inception of the Bush ad controversy, the mainstream press has been slow to pick up on Peaceful Tomorrows' anti-Bush pedigree. The group, for instance, has long been active in opposing U.S. involvement in Iraq.

Still, PT's political portfolio escaped the notice of the Washington Post, which described the group as "nonpartisan" on Thursday.

Other mainstream outlets repeatedly quoted PT members without revealing their anti-Bush agenda.

Comments by PT's leader, Colleen Kelly, have been prominently covered by the Associated Press, the Boston Globe and in dozens of other press reports complaining about the Bush ads. None of the reports mentioned PT's money ties to Heinz Kerry.

Andrew Rice, another prominent member of PT, has been quoted in the New York Times and has appeared on MSNBC, again without a single reference to his group's Heinz Foundation funding.

Besides Peaceful Tomorrows, other Tides grant recipients include the Iraq Peace Fund, which has helped bankroll anti-war marches, and MoveOn.org, which featured a campaign ad in November comparing President Bush to Hitler.

found here
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?

Why alchie? Does Vietnam = 9/11 in your mind?
Vietnam was a political violent event, a war. Kerry talks about his leadership and bravery.
9/11 was a political violent event, a terrorist attack. Bush talks about his leadership and response to terror.

Either both are OK, or both aren't.

Does Kerry have a TV commercial featuring images of the Vietnam war?
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?

Why alchie? Does Vietnam = 9/11 in your mind?
Vietnam was a political violent event, a war. Kerry talks about his leadership and bravery.
9/11 was a political violent event, a terrorist attack. Bush talks about his leadership and response to terror.

Either both are OK, or both aren't.

Does Kerry have a TV commercial featuring images of the Vietnam war?

Yes. How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam....

Hmm....It's on his site. I know - because I've been all over his site;)

CkG
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Hey alchie -- why not just call everyone who is offended by the 9/11 ads "red-faced spittle spewers" I hear that works real well around here . . .

OK, and I'll improve on it. People who are offended by the 9/11 ads are partisan purple-faced spittle spewers and hypocrites (unless they are willing to denouce Kerry's use of Vietnam as a platform).

Like?

Why alchie? Does Vietnam = 9/11 in your mind?
Vietnam was a political violent event, a war. Kerry talks about his leadership and bravery.
9/11 was a political violent event, a terrorist attack. Bush talks about his leadership and response to terror.

Either both are OK, or both aren't.

Does Kerry have a TV commercial featuring images of the Vietnam war?

Yes. How do you ask a man to be the last man to die in Vietnam....

Hmm....It's on his site. I know - because I've been all over his site;)

CkG

Here is another;)

CkG