Kellyanne Conway - 'Go buy Ivanka's stuff'

[jtvang125]

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/318791-conways-hawking-for-ivanka-triggers-outcry

Hopefully the protest yesterday at the town hall turned up the heat some more. Chafftez had to cut it an hour short.

 

[HomerJS]

Clear abuse of power. Swamp getting more monster daily

Apparently Trump is ok with what Conjob did.

 

[soundforbjt]

Clear abuse of power. Swamp getting more monster daily

Apparently Trump is ok with what Conjob did.

It is rumored Trump wasn't happy with Spicer calling out KC, he thought it was too harsh, apparently he thought she didn't do anything wrong.

 

[Pens1566]

He's in a pickle. Not just with Propagand Barbie either. Same with rising sentiment against Flynn. Fire a minion for what would normally be appropriate cause and appear weak/wrong. Which we know he can't do because of his malignant NPD. Or keep them on (as he appears to back Conway 100%), and suffer through the associated drop in his ratings.

Now, I know what you're going to say, "polls are fake/wrong", "polls don't matter", etc.. But the catch is, they do to the GOP congress critters that are really only behind him to ride his coattails. They can only stomach it, politically speaking, for so long before they have to worry about a wave in '18. You're seeing signs of it now, starting with Chaffetz. He had to acknowledge the obvious with Conway or look ridiculous in defense.

My guess is if this daily shenanigans and incompetence goes on for some time, he's in trouble. When he gets in trouble, he's just as likely to unravel as course correct. Actually, he's probably almost guaranteed to unravel as he's never had to put up with anything adverse in his adult life. If so, you'll see either an invocation of the 25th amendment, or articles of impeachment if the offense rises to a certain level.

Just my .02.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

He's in a pickle. Not just with Propagand Barbie either. Same with rising sentiment against Flynn. Fire a minion for what would normally be appropriate cause and appear weak/wrong. Which we know he can't do because of his malignant NPD. Or keep them on (as he appears to back Conway 100%), and suffer through the associated drop in his ratings.

Now, I know what you're going to say, "polls are fake/wrong", "polls don't matter", etc.. But the catch is, they do to the GOP congress critters that are really only behind him to ride his coattails. They can only stomach it, politically speaking, for so long before they have to worry about a wave in '18. You're seeing signs of it now, starting with Chaffetz. He had to acknowledge the obvious with Conway or look ridiculous in defense.

My guess is if this daily shenanigans and incompetence goes on for some time, he's in trouble. When he gets in trouble, he's just as likely to unravel as course correct. Actually, he's probably almost guaranteed to unravel as he's never had to put up with anything adverse in his adult life. If so, you'll see either an invocation of the 25th amendment, or articles of impeachment if the offense rises to a certain level.

Just my .02.

I agree with this. Each given constituent/supporter will have a different breaking point. Some might be fine with this kind of thing, but not be okay with him say, gold plating the oval office. Some might be fine with that, but not him eating babies, whatever. Eventually he'll work his way down his supporters/staff (both 'civilian' and governmental) until he's eroded it completely.

I'm uh, not sure what he can do to regain support at this point. Has anyone looked at that at all? Stop twitting? Stop appearing on the news? Not sure.

 

[Meghan54]

No wonder Trump has KC hawking Ivanka's trash in news interviews:

Online sales of Ivanka Trump's brand fell 26 percent in January

Slice Intelligence said sales declines of Ivanka Trump goods online were evident after the election, and beyond. Ivanka Trump's online sales fell 26 percent in January compared to January 2016.

Sales of Ivanka Trump merchandise on Nordstrom.com fell 63 percent in the fourth quarter, dropped 43 percent on Zappos.com and 31 percent at Amazon.com compared to the previous year.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...l-26-percent-in-january/ar-AAmN3PM?li=BBnbfcN

 

[Homerboy]

No wonder Trump has KC hawking Ivanka's trash in news interviews:

Online sales of Ivanka Trump's brand fell 26 percent in January


http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...l-26-percent-in-january/ar-AAmN3PM?li=BBnbfcN

IMPOSSIBLE! Pretty sure all along (intelligent) people were pointing out that Nordstroms dropped her line due to crappy sales. But heaven forbid the Trump zealots see it like that. They will just stomp their feet and say it's Nordstrom being political. I really am about to give up on people.

 

[raildogg]

Again, if people can't agree on the facts then there is no discussion to be had.

In your reality, Clinton is another corrupt politician, in the real world she was exactly the politician and the kinds of person you claim we should all be, bi partisan, a centrist, and someone willing to listen to any good idea.

But by all means, continue spouting your bullshit and I'll continue calling you out on it.

I don't believe in this evil political system. You do and that's fine. As for Hillary's corruption, I don't know. But she's been part of the evil political system for how many years? How does a good person survive that long without lying in some form or another? Of course I'm not going to look up her corruption because the issue is deeper than that. You think the elites who control the world are going to tell you their corruption?

I guess people with a D in front of their name must be better than people with R in front of their name.

You can call me out - no problem at all. This world is entering into extremely dangerous territory and we're discussing how one corrupt political party is supposedly better than the other corrupt political party ...

I wonder if there are people out there who are beyond this game of Democrats vs. Republicans.

 

[raildogg]

No, I'm practicing reality.

Tribalism is reality because most people practice it constantly. Our world wouldn't be in the shape it is if people weren't as tribal as they are.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't believe in this evil political system. You do and that's fine. As for Hillary's corruption, I don't know. But she's been part of the evil political system for how many years? How does a good person survive that long without lying in some form or another?

I guess people with a D in front of their name must be better than people with R in front of their name.

You can call me out - no problem at all. This world is entering into extremely dangerous territory and we're discussing how one corrupt political party is supposedly better than the other corrupt political party ...

It's an important thing to discuss as when people engage in the sort of false equivalence that makes them claim that both parties are equally bad it actually further undermines our system and allows parties that act poorly to do so without consequence. Before we can tackle the larger issues we have to be able to get people to accept the facts in front of their face.

 

[raildogg]

How can you undermine a corrupt, morally bankrupt, unfair system?

I don't care about what benefits one party or another.

 

[fskimospy]

How can you undermine a corrupt, morally bankrupt, unfair system?

I don't care about what benefits one party or another.

It doesn't matter which party benefits specifically, what does matter is that when parties of any type pay no price for their bad behavior it weakens the system as a whole. By trying to claim both sides are the same when they very clearly aren't you're just making things worse.

 

[raildogg]

I never said both sides are the same because things are never the same. There will be differences. The issue is that people believe this system we have in place. They believe in Democrats and Republicans. They believe in liberals and conservatives.

Many of you supposedly smart people pick on religious people for "believing" yet you also do the same when it comes to your own little issues as well. You keep on believing when the results say otherwise. This country and the world is in the state it is in because of ALL the political parities. Yeah, right now the Republicans have the power and thus are causing more harm than the Democrats - at least from what we can see. Trump is bringing us hatred and anger like never seen before (recently). But I don't have faith in the Democrats to fix this either. People say that one should pick "lesser of the two evils" but you are still picking evil. I don't want that.

Maybe in the next selection (I mean election) cycle, your favorite Democrat puppet can be put in place. Who cares.The show/scam goes on.

It's all a giant lie. A scam to get the masses to participate in.

 

[Blackjack200]

IMPOSSIBLE! Pretty sure all along (intelligent) people were pointing out that Nordstroms dropped her line due to crappy sales. But heaven forbid the Trump zealots see it like that. They will just stomp their feet and say it's Nordstrom being political. I really am about to give up on people.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiem...ears-from-neiman-marcus-website/#7f94d44b4baa

Shannon Coulter, the founder of Grab Your Wallet, told FORBES that Grab Your Wallet participants have sent more than 230,000 tweets about the movement, generating a reach of 626 million impressions. She is taking Nordstrom's decision as a win for her cause.

Yes! The people who voted against Donald generate two thirds of this nation's economic activity. When we vote w/ our dollars, it's powerful. https://t.co/NIq6oNkUmV

— Shannon Coulter (@shannoncoulter) February 3, 2017



"We may have lost at the ballot box but we can vote at the cash register every day," she said in a phone interview Friday evening.

One day after the Uber and Nordstrom moves, Neiman Marcus appears to have followed suit. The news site Racked.com reported Friday that Ivanka Trump jewelry was no longer appearing in search results on the Neiman Marcus website. A FORBES search of the website produced the same results, and also found that Ivanka Trump is no longer listed on Neiman Marcus' list of designers. A search on the website for luxury retailer Bergdorf Goodman, which is owned by the Neiman Marcus group, was similarly fruitless:

Nordstrom has simply stated that the decision was only based on the performance of the product line. We can draw our own conclusions.

 

[Homerboy]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maggiem...ears-from-neiman-marcus-website/#7f94d44b4baa



Nordstrom has simply stated that the decision was only based on the performance of the product line. We can draw our own conclusions.

I know they have and I have stated that in threads here and other discussions online. Hell I saw people on Day 1 on Twitter who (claimed to) work for NOrdstrom saying that the sales were tanking and they couldn't sell the stuff. The Trump supporters refuse to listen and claim it's a slight against the 1st family. LOL

 

[raildogg]

This whole world is so fake. Ivanka Trump's clothing line? Yeah ok. I mean what's so special about it? Are the clothes are different than any other brand?

We have so much suffering and other things going on yet so much coverage is about these stupid topics.

Just shows you how much this "educated" world has fallen and is falling constantly.

 

[fskimospy]

I never said both sides are the same because things are never the same. There will be differences. The issue is that people believe this system we have in place. They believe in Democrats and Republicans. They believe in liberals and conservatives.

Many of you supposedly smart people pick on religious people for "believing" yet you also do the same when it comes to your own little issues as well. You keep on believing when the results say otherwise. This country and the world is in the state it is in because of ALL the political parities. Yeah, right now the Republicans have the power and thus are causing more harm than the Democrats - at least from what we can see. Trump is bringing us hatred and anger like never seen before (recently). But I don't have faith in the Democrats to fix this either. People say that one should pick "lesser of the two evils" but you are still picking evil. I don't want that.

Maybe in the next selection (I mean election) cycle, your favorite Democrat puppet can be put in place. Who cares.The show/scam goes on.

It's all a giant lie. A scam to get the masses to participate in.

This is some sophomore dorm room stuff right here. If you think the current system is a scam designed to fleece the masses then I'm very interested to hear your superior alternative.

 

[raildogg]

If you don't believe the masses are being conditioned and taken advantage of by the powerful, then we are speaking two very different languages. But I'm not surprised.

 

[Blackjack200]

This is some sophomore dorm room stuff right here. If you think the current system is a scam designed to fleece the masses then I'm very interested to hear your superior alternative.

I honestly believe that shitty democrats are part of the problem, but anyone that looks at the last three weeks and doesn't walk into the booth and pull the D lever in November '18 either likes what they are seeing or is irredeemably stupid.

 

[raildogg]

I honestly believe that shitty democrats are part of the problem, but anyone that looks at the last three weeks and doesn't walk into the booth and pull the D lever in November '18 either likes what they are seeing or is irredeemably stupid.

Go ahead and pull the D. I'm sure many people will. Let's see how that will change this monstrous world.

Your elected leaders will never lead you to the promise land. By you voting, you are endorsing this system. By the way, Trump's victory should be seen as how bad things are. That a billionaire is seen as a hero by the masses should be a sign of how asleep humans are.

Yeah, Trump should not have been elected - I am with you on that. But, regardless, no political leader is going to do any good for this world.

Just look at the results. The environment, good education, harmony among people, morality, decency - they are all declining.

But, anyway, keep on voting if it keeps you guys happy.

 

[Blackjack200]

Go ahead and pull the D. I'm sure many people will. Let's see how that will change this monstrous world.

Your elected leaders will never lead you to the promise land. By you voting you are endorsing this system.

If Hillary Clinton had been elected in November there would not have been children handcuffed in international airports and Guadalupe García de Rayos would still be with her children in Arizona. That's a real, tangible consequence. And anyone that ignores it is stupid or monstrous.

 

[raildogg]

I already said that.

 

[fskimospy]

If you don't believe the masses are being conditioned and taken advantage of by the powerful, then we are speaking two very different languages. But I'm not surprised.

So again, explain your better way.

 

[raildogg]

So again, explain your better way.

I don't know what is a better way. The way we are doing it now will lead to more candidates like billionaire Trump, billionaire Rex Tillerson, elite bankers like Mnuchin, etc.

A real, ordinary person will never, ever become close to becoming President of US. It is that way for a reason.

Nowadays, one needs raise hundreds of millions of dollars to market himself in front of the masses. And in order to raise that much money, you need to shill yourself out. You need to pander to groups. You need to host those fake dinners. There is no honesty or decency there. (Just one example of the corrupt system).

Your corporations and banks basically run the show. Everything else is secondary.

So again, the better way would be where everything is real. Where one doesn't need money to tell everyone how good of a person he is. Where ads on TV don't play constantly to get your vote.

These elections are like reality TV shows. Just as superficial and lacking anything that resembles "truthfulness." I don't want to participate in that system.

This is your political system now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NsrwH9I9vE

 

[zinfamous]

Pretty sure jailing someone over saying something stupid might be a LITTLE extreme, haha. She should get a letter of reprimand at least though.

what about jailing someone over one's own hallucinations and sociopathy relating to fairy tails and opioid-inspired theories?

"lock her up!" you know?