Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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sportage

Lifer
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Next Friday NO ONE will be talking about this.
The only time we will hear the name of Kavanaugh in the future is when states one by one strip away abortion rights, gay rights, minority rights, safety nets, affordable healthcare, etc etc.
And the outrage ends up at the door of the US Supreme Court, which it will. And Kavanaugh sides with the far right religious extremist in decision, which Kavanaugh will.
THEN.... we will hear the name of Kavanaugh.
As well as the name Gorsuch.
And whomever Donald Trump picks next to replace Ruth Ginsburg.
 

Josephus312

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It's the sub sub sub basement where all the action takes place though.

Yeah, but it's not children, it's Ivanka and Melania putting on a show for money to leave their respectives.

That is what really pissed Trump off, especially Ivanka since she's who he really wants to rail.
 

nickqt

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This is absolutely crazy....not one shred of evidence or a even a single witness can vouch for her story and all of the liberals in america just automatically assume he is guilty. So much for for the presumption of innocence...

I can only imagine the hypocrisy If there were was a democratic nominee faced with allegations of an assault decades ago but no one other than the accuser can remember (vaguely at that), what kind of evidence would be demanded to prove these charges....
This isn't a criminal court case, in case you hadn't noticed. It's a Senate confirmation.

Try to keep up, collaborator.
 
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Josephus312

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Vote early, vote often, vote Republican.

Good job!

That's not what he said. Unlike you he at least holds the constitutional value of the democratic elections to heart. I agree with him on nothing but this point. Republicans and democrats both should vote in record numbers to show that the system we hold so very dear to keep our freedoms is important and valuable.

I would think you'd propose a dictatorship if you could get away with it which means you are just completely worthless in this nation and would probably be better off in SA or Russia.
 

IJTSSG

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That's not what he said. Unlike you he at least holds the constitutional value of the democratic elections to heart. I agree with him on nothing but this point. Republicans and democrats both should vote in record numbers to show that the system we hold so very dear to keep our freedoms is important and valuable.

I would think you'd propose a dictatorship if you could get away with it which means you are just completely worthless in this nation and would probably be better off in SA or Russia.
Lighten up Francis. Go outside, take a deep breath.
 
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ch33zw1z

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This is absolutely crazy....not one shred of evidence or a even a single witness can vouch for her story and all of the liberals in america just automatically assume he is guilty. So much for for the presumption of innocence...

I can only imagine the hypocrisy If there were was a democratic nominee faced with allegations of an assault decades ago but no one other than the accuser can remember (vaguely at that), what kind of evidence would be demanded to prove these charges....

Haha, stop kidding yourself. Republicans just ignored the nominee. Party of short term memory loss indeed.

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/29/6244...errick-garland-in-2016-and-why-it-matters-now
 

Sinsear

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It is nearly certain he repeatedly lied about using criminally obtained documents in the past as well.

The guy appears to lie about basically everything. He’s a disgrace.

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I’ve stated earlier in the thread i’m not a fan of kavanaugh. I didn’t like the way he handled himself, and i was pretty sure he was dishonest in some of the answers in the parts of his hearing i saw.

And The topic of lying seems to be a major theme in this thread. If it’s true, the lies & perjury, why is the media beating the drums over the “woman” angle with limited evidence (really no evidence) instead of “LIAR” and “PERJURER” over and over. I think dishonesty and no integrity would resonate better and be easier to prove than hazy recollections of a party 30 some odd years ago. The media doesn’t need an FBI investigation to prove him a liar if he is one, so Why aren’t they playing that angle?
 

fskimospy

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I’ve stated earlier in the thread i’m not a fan of kavanaugh. I didn’t like the way he handled himself, and i was pretty sure he was dishonest in some of the answers in the parts of his hearing i saw.

And The topic of lying seems to be a major theme in this thread. If it’s true, the lies & perjury, why is the media beating the drums over the “woman” angle with limited evidence (really no evidence) instead of “LIAR” and “PERJURER” over and over. I think dishonesty and no integrity would resonate better and be easier to prove than hazy recollections of a party 30 some odd years ago. The media doesn’t need an FBI investigation to prove him a liar if he is one, so Why aren’t they playing that angle?

Because the media isn’t a partisan actor the way you think they are. It’s very true that his perjury over the stolen documents is more impactful but sexual assault is a kicker headline. The media doesn’t exist to discredit Kavanaugh, they exist to get eyeballs.
 

Jhhnn

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I’ve stated earlier in the thread i’m not a fan of kavanaugh. I didn’t like the way he handled himself, and i was pretty sure he was dishonest in some of the answers in the parts of his hearing i saw.

And The topic of lying seems to be a major theme in this thread. If it’s true, the lies & perjury, why is the media beating the drums over the “woman” angle with limited evidence (really no evidence) instead of “LIAR” and “PERJURER” over and over. I think dishonesty and no integrity would resonate better and be easier to prove than hazy recollections of a party 30 some odd years ago. The media doesn’t need an FBI investigation to prove him a liar if he is one, so Why aren’t they playing that angle?

Because the right wing noise machine leads them back around to Ford quite purposefully, of course, just so we'll forget about the nominee's rather profound dishonesty & naked partisanship.

Entirely too many people play into it & don't realize they're being manipulated. Kavanaugh is the nominee, not Ford. His character & integrity are what matter, not hers. In that, he's obviously deficient when we filter out the noise.

Kavanaugh's confirmation would sow enormous disrespect for the Court for decades to come. We don't need that at all. I'm confident that the GOP can put forward a much better & every bit as conservative a nominee any time they choose.
 

umbrella39

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Next Friday NO ONE will be talking about this.
The only time we will hear the name of Kavanaugh in the future is when states one by one strip away abortion rights, gay rights, minority rights, safety nets, affordable healthcare, etc etc.
And the outrage ends up at the door of the US Supreme Court, which it will. And Kavanaugh sides with the far right religious extremist in decision, which Kavanaugh will.
THEN.... we will hear the name of Kavanaugh.
As well as the name Gorsuch.
And whomever Donald Trump picks next to replace Ruth Ginsburg.

I wouldn't worry too much. 2A rights are still in effect...
 
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Yeah, but it's not children, it's Ivanka and Melania putting on a show for money to leave their respectives.

That is what really pissed Trump off, especially Ivanka since she's who he really wants to rail.

Why Trump *really* doesn't like Trudeau

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Starbuck1975

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Such a disappoint from Susan Collins. It seems my view of her intellect and ethical nature was too generous.

"It is my fervent hope..." Hoping that a unhinged partisan will rise above partisanship? One that perjured himself in the hearing? What the fuck lady. So much naive tripe; republicans are going to do to justice with Kavanaugh what they did to journalism with Fox.

Tip of the hat to Murkowski though, there's a woman of integrity who didn't sell out her duty, or gender.
Collins and Murkowski both released intelligent statements that are worth the time to read. Tip of the hat to both of them.

Both believe Kavanaugh is a good judge and a good man.

Both condemned the partisan bickering and deplorable loss of civility.

Murkowski came to the conclusion that the integrity of our institutions are greater than any one candidate, and I respect how she framed her decision.

Collins focused on Kavanaugh’s judicial record, which stands in stark contrast to those who would portray him as an extremist. I imagine the fund setup to sway her vote, and the harassment she’s received, motivated her vote to act in defiance to it, because those things are a threat to our institutions for different reasons.
 

K1052

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Seeing conservatives taking a loud victory lap while openly predicting that Kavanaugh will now rule against liberals, regardless of merit, in the court simply because they are liberals seems a problematic development for the republic.
 

brycejones

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you must be confused... voter fraud is a blue leftist ideal, not republican.

Surely you have stats of the party affiliation of people convicted of voter fraud to back that up. Would you mind linking them up?
 
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UberNeuman

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Surely you have starts of the party affiliation of people convicted of voter fraud to back that up. Would you mind linking them up?

oooh! I've got a riddle - What party is full of stupid and dishonest morons that is the Republican Party?

lol.
 

Bitek

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This is absolutely crazy....not one shred of evidence or a even a single witness can vouch for her story and all of the liberals in america just automatically assume he is guilty. So much for for the presumption of innocence...

I can only imagine the hypocrisy If there were was a democratic nominee faced with allegations of an assault decades ago but no one other than the accuser can remember (vaguely at that), what kind of evidence would be demanded to prove these charges....

That's not how the legal system works (not that the is even a trial.)

These cases are often a single victim, single perp crime situation that results in a he said/she said situation with no physical evidence.

By your standard, it would mean you could freely assault others provided you didn't get caught by a witness.

However, there was a witness. Mark Judge. But he was never subpoenaed and made to testify in the Senate, nor is it apparent that he was aggressively interviewed by the FBI.
 
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