Kavanaugh SCOTUS Senate Judicial Hearing

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UNCjigga

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It's clear she's telling the truth. The GOP's only "credible" defense was that she is a liar, which she is clearly not. Now what will their defense be?

I see this going one of two ways:

-The GOP goes forward with the vote and Kavanaugh gets the nomination, this creates a blue sharknado during the midterms and they lose a significant majority of their base (mostly women).
-The GOP withdraws the Kavanaugh nomination and try to ram through another before the midterms. Maybe not a sharknado, but certainly a tsunami and may keep some of their base. If they're smart, this is what they'll do.

But they're not smart, or at least they are deferring to Trump to make a decision which is the stupidest thing they can do.

If I look at this for the standpoint that Brett Kavanaugh is 100% innocent of all allegations, GOP totally screwed the pooch with this hearing. They handled this poorly and it shows. They should've taken more time to review/investigate, come up with a serious defense, and just blamed Democrats for the delay heading into the midterms. I don't understand why they rushed this...pressure from the President?
 

IronWing

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Starting to see how this might go. Popular GOP gov of Massachusetts, Charlie Baker, just made the following statement.

"The accusations brought against Judge Kavanaugh are sickening and deserve an independent investigation," Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker tweeted. "There should be no vote in the Senate."
There just ain't enough room in the roost for all the chickens that will be heading for cover today.
 
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Why would they want some interns "investigating" instead of the FBI?

"“The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn’t understand anything. The FBI explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion. Period,” “They say he said, she said, and they said, period. So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make recommendations.”

by Joe Biden
 
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UNCjigga

Lifer
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Everyone wants to know where Mark Judge is. If GOP had given Kavanaugh and Judge more time, Judge could have been professionally coached on appearing as a witness, how to answer leading questions, and how to defer. Instead, GOP rushed this shitshow and it's the ultimate self-pwnage. They never believed Judge could provide a reliable defense for Kavanaugh, hence why he's been disappeared.
 
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But they're not smart, or at least they are deferring to Trump to make a decision which is the stupidest thing they can do.

If I look at this for the standpoint that Brett Kavanaugh is 100% innocent of all allegations, GOP totally screwed the pooch with this hearing. They handled this poorly and it shows. They should've taken more time to review/investigate, come up with a serious defense, and just blamed Democrats for the delay heading into the midterms. I don't understand why they rushed this...pressure from the President?

My guess is that they know the dirt and were trying to get him confirmed before said dirt was unearthed.
 

repoman0

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Starting to see how this might go. Popular GOP gov of Massachusetts, Charlie Baker, just made the following statement.

"The accusations brought against Judge Kavanaugh are sickening and deserve an independent investigation," Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker tweeted. "There should be no vote in the Senate."

Baker is a RINO. We'd never let him keep his job otherwise ;)
 
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Everyone wants to know where Mark Judge is. If GOP had given Kavanaugh and Judge more time, Judge could have been professionally coached on appearing as a witness, how to answer leading questions, and how to defer. Instead, GOP rushed this shitshow and it's the ultimate self-pwnage. They never believed Judge could provide a reliable defense for Kavanaugh, hence why he's been disappeared.
Judge is probably off the wagon, sitting alone drinking his ass off
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
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"“The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn’t understand anything. The FBI explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion. Period,” “They say he said, she said, and they said, period. So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make recommendations.”

by Joe Biden

They are not required to reach a conclusion or provide analysis for a Congressional hearing. This isn't a criminal trial. Their job should've been to gather the facts without bias, provide sworn testimony from witnessesunder penalty of perjury, and allow the Committee to make their recommendation.
 

ivwshane

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"“The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn’t understand anything. The FBI explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion. Period,” “They say he said, she said, and they said, period. So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make recommendations.”

by Joe Biden


Lol! You stupid, stupid fuck!

The FBI would be investigating and talking multiple people so it would be a he said and she said and they said and here is what matches up.

You really should just shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself even more.
 

fskimospy

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"“The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn’t understand anything. The FBI explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion. Period,” “They say he said, she said, and they said, period. So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make recommendations.”

by Joe Biden

They do find out facts though, the thing you say Republicans desperately want!

Do they need the FBI's phone number? It's (202) 324-3000.
 
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zinfamous

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Irrelevant. You claimed the Republicans were trying to find out facts here. Their actions show they are obviously not trying to find the facts, because they have repeatedly declined several direct ways to get them.

Please acknowledge that the Republicans do not care about getting facts about this case.

But the democrats wouldn't let the republicans find the facts just like the democrats made all republicans vote for Trump? Also, never mind that the WH and GOP withheld 200k+ documents related to Kavanaugh, that the Dems very publicly and repeatedly requested, but were rebuffed with claims of "well, you don't need to see them."

I wonder what could have been found in those 200k documents that the GOP deemed irrelevent to democrat eyes?

I'm guessing it was a lot of stuff worth investigating, the GOP gambled that they could keep Kavvy-boy's rape history secret, and it exploded in their faces. This is just going by what we know, though.
 
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But they're not smart, or at least they are deferring to Trump to make a decision which is the stupidest thing they can do.

If I look at this for the standpoint that Brett Kavanaugh is 100% innocent of all allegations, GOP totally screwed the pooch with this hearing. They handled this poorly and it shows. They should've taken more time to review/investigate, come up with a serious defense, and just blamed Democrats for the delay heading into the midterms. I don't understand why they rushed this...pressure from the President?
Pressure from Mueller. That train is still headed to their station...
 
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Lol! You stupid, stupid fuck!

The FBI would be investigating and talking multiple people so it would be a he said and she said and they said and here is what matches up.

You really should just shut the fuck up before you embarrass yourself even more.
Tell it to Uncle Joe Biden, he said it.
 

OrByte

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"“The next person who refers to an FBI report as being worth anything obviously doesn’t understand anything. The FBI explicitly does not in this or any other case reach a conclusion. Period,” “They say he said, she said, and they said, period. So when people wave an FBI report before you, understand they do not, they do not, they do not reach conclusions. They do not make recommendations.”

by Joe Biden
I love this quote because it continues to show the american people what is missing here in today's political drama.

There is no police/FBI investigation. All that we have to reach our conclusions is this GOP sh!tshow. And it's looking bad for the GOP.

no one is asking the FBI to reach conclusions comrade. All anyone has asked for is a full documented investigation. Its up to a court system to "reach conclusions" through a regular litigation process based off of discovered facts and documented police investigation(s).
 

UNCjigga

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Which is why the Democrats had and concealed the information about the accusation for 6 weeks. o_O
Like I said, GOP could've milked this talking point for all it's worth IF they delayed for 2 weeks and asked FBI to investigate. But they didn't, and to be honest it falls a little flat when you consider what's happened to her since coming out publicly.
 

zinfamous

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This is pretty much how I feel about the conservatives in this thread, too. Ghastly, vile creatures not fit to be called human anymore. It's absolutely pointless to engage with them for any reason.

https://twitter.com/willmenaker/status/1045338732482764800

lol

#1 Lifelong Cleveland Browns Fan Kenny‏ @get24maizenblue
Replying to @willmenaker
The reason we dont have many serial killers anymore is that every dude who can only nut by killing a prostitute figured out they could get their fix legally by joining the GOP

Accurate.