Karl Rove granted a sacred divorce

[Fear No Evil]

I think the left feels Mr. Rove may be a significant threat in 2010 and 2012..

 

[LumbergTech]

Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

Another forum troll is born.

 

[werepossum]

Crickets. Crickets. Crickets.

Nervous, creeped out crickets, dude.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Yes, I remember his valiant service in the armed forces....oops, more like a chickenhawk heart.

Very well.

It seems that every old liberal saw is being dragged through this thread. Let’s address this latest one, shall we ?

The “chickenhawk”.

As I understand it, the “chicken hawk” is that man who advocates the protection of his homeland by military force but is not actually firing the weapon himself. Is that it?

Here is truth.

It is God, wise old men, grand mothers, wives, daughters, young sons and other worthy men who decide when it is time to go to war. To discount and devalue the contribution and commitment of the above group is treasonous. It is the above group that extends the offer to the potential soldier. The opportunity to defend the realm is an honor that should be seen as a prize, an honor and a highly desired position.

Honor is offered to the soldier in exchange for his loyal and obedient service. It is not for the soldier to make any decisions, but to obey.
This exchange is seldom outlined but it is understood by those who possess integrity and wisdom.

Those individuals who hate the rule of the King, dare to insult and question the King and his participation in the war.

Know this, it is the King who cries out to God. It is the King who can see the beginning to the end. It is the King who has the trust of the people. It is the King who carries the weight of the Nation on his shoulders.

The man who pulls the trigger is given that honor by the King. That man who insults the King is a treasonous infidel and a prostitute for the enemy.

 

[Lemon law]

Crickets, crickets, and crickets, its time to point out that mere mention of the name Karl Rove drives many mainly democratic posters bonkers.

Nor should we minimize how much damage ole Karl has done to this country.

But all right already, credit where credit is due, Karl Rove is a brilliant political strategist and a genius in his own right.

But in saying all those kind things about Karl Rove, he is now persona non Grata on all sides and now only a poster child for idiots. Because the same Karl Rove who pioneered the rise of GWB and divisive politics is now the very idiot who did much to pioneer the fall of the GOP in the elections of 2006 and and 2008.

The Karl Rove advice that may have been Golden many years ago is worth shit today. And once exposed as the morally bankrupt fraud Karl Rove has always been, it may be a hot stove league debate on which political party was most damaged by Karl Rove.

But like many figures in American history, we only learn later of how bad the path they tried to lead us onto. As for ole Karl he is now discredited and will never again be trusted by even the GOP.

 

[Craig234]

Read what I have written again.

Christians are not the standard to be used, God and God alone is capable of maintaining the true, the complete, that which is forever integral and the unshakable standard.

Continue to to the summit!


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The question is repeated, you have not answered yet:

Why isn't divorce mentioned in your post as something your faction of Christians is equally opposed to with gay equal rights to marriage? Will you 'never accept' laws allowing divorce either?

If not, why isn't that hypocritical of you?

 

[Craig234]

Crickets, crickets, and crickets, its time to point out that mere mention of the name Karl Rove drives many mainly democratic posters bonkers.

Nor should we minimize how much damage ole Karl has done to this country.

But all right already, credit where credit is due, Karl Rove is a brilliant political strategist and a genius in his own right.

But in saying all those kind things about Karl Rove, he is now persona non Grata on all sides and now only a poster child for idiots. Because the same Karl Rove who pioneered the rise of GWB and divisive politics is now the very idiot who did much to pioneer the fall of the GOP in the elections of 2006 and and 2008.

The Karl Rove advice that may have been Golden many years ago is worth shit today. And once exposed as the morally bankrupt fraud Karl Rove has always been, it may be a hot stove league debate on which political party was most damaged by Karl Rove.

But like many figures in American history, we only learn later of how bad the path they tried to lead us onto. As for ole Karl he is now discredited and will never again be trusted by even the GOP.

You greatly overrate Rove - read more about him, and you will get reasons why. Recall his legacy was to take the growing Republican movement from 1994 and to turn it into the historic 2006 disaster.

 

[Craig234]

Understand this, Christians are destined to rule and reign. Our resolve is firm, aggressive and unshakable. In this, we are similar to Al Qaeda

The operative difference, we are benevolent and they are malevolent. We desire for you to join us in the certainty of our cause. That cause is to gather as many souls as possible into our joy!

Join us and travel as a victor into eternity.

You are far more similar than you realize. Al Queda thinks they're more benevolent than you do. They launched attacks - you have not supported any attacks the United States has launched?

Indeed, the Muslim extremists often seem more defensive than our insane Christian factions - atleast bin Laden's main gripe was the foreign military presence on Saudi land, while our wars are more aggressive.

You are not benevolent, you ae the dangerous sort of deluded who think they are as they kill.

Where does the bible say what you claim, that Christian armies are to conquer the world?

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Crickets, crickets, and crickets, its time to point out that mere mention of the name Karl Rove drives many mainly democratic posters bonkers.

Nor should we minimize how much damage ole Karl has done to this country.

But all right already, credit where credit is due, Karl Rove is a brilliant political strategist and a genius in his own right.

But in saying all those kind things about Karl Rove, he is now persona non Grata on all sides and now only a poster child for idiots. Because the same Karl Rove who pioneered the rise of GWB and divisive politics is now the very idiot who did much to pioneer the fall of the GOP in the elections of 2006 and and 2008.

The Karl Rove advice that may have been Golden many years ago is worth shit today. And once exposed as the morally bankrupt fraud Karl Rove has always been, it may be a hot stove league debate on which political party was most damaged by Karl Rove.

But like many figures in American history, we only learn later of how bad the path they tried to lead us onto. As for ole Karl he is now discredited and will never again be trusted by even the GOP.

Karl is a polarizing figure. Love him or hate him, he is a leader.

Those of us who love liberty and the concept of the individual, thank Karl for his worthy service.

Other men, who are in many ways clueless, will tend to see Karl as an enemy.

We’ve all been there. That Coach who we loved because he challenged us to work and succeed. The teacher who would not accept substandard work. The parent who demanded excellence. The employer who knew what works and demanded it be done.

We have watched these people that we admire, pilloried by the foolish in our group. We have lived long enough to see the foolish fail and land on the ash-heap of history.

Fight on my friends, fight on.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

The question is repeated, you have not answered yet:

Why isn't divorce mentioned in your post as something your faction of Christians is equally opposed to with gay equal rights to marriage? Will you 'never accept' laws allowing divorce either?

If not, why isn't that hypocritical of you?

I hate divorce.

 

[WHAMPOM]

To karl, blame others for what you do and take credit when ever possible. Victory by any means, mostly by being mean.

 

[Craig234]

I hate divorce.

That wasn't the question.

The question is, do you oppose it in the law equally to gay marriage? Will you 'never accept it' in the law?

 

[Craig234]

Karl is a polarizing figure. Love him or hate him, he is a leader.

Those of us who love liberty and the concept of the individual, thank Karl for his worthy service.

Other men, who are in many ways clueless, will tend to see Karl as an enemy.

We’ve all been there. That Coach who we loved because he challenged us to work and succeed. The teacher who would not accept substandard work. The parent who demanded excellence. The employer who knew what works and demanded it be done.

We have watched these people that we admire, pilloried by the foolish in our group. We have lived long enough to see the foolish fail and land on the ash-heap of history.

Fight on my friends, fight on.

I love liberty and the rights of the individual (what the hell is the 'concept of the individual' you introduce as a political topic), and I recognize Rove for the immoral, evil person he is.

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

That wasn't the question.

The question is, do you oppose it in the law equally to gay marriage? Will you 'never accept it' in the law?

Read what I have said. I do not agree that two gays uniting is a marriage.
I will oppose the dissolution of a civil union between gays with the same force of law that we currently oppose divorce.

I love liberty and the rights of the individual (what the hell is the 'concept of the individual' you introduce as a political topic)

Under Obama, the Liberals/Democrats/other corrupt persons are advancing the theory of the whole and the collective. Karl Rove is opposed to government involvement that mirrors the thoughts of Mao, Stalin, and Marx.

I recognize Rove for the immoral, evil person he is.

I’ll answer that with a quote from my comment above, “Other men, who are in many ways clueless, will tend to see Karl as an enemy”.

 

[classy]

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1209/31036.html

The 2004 GOP electoral strategy relied in large part on energizing evangelicals through fearmongering based on the possibility of gay marriage becoming legal, but the cause was a just one, right? Protecting and defending that most sacred of institutions, the foundation and bedrock of all society, the prize and goal of many a reality tv show, marriage.

Glenn Greenwald lets it fly:
http://www.salon.com/news/gay_marriage/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2009/12/29/rove


I can only assume Rove's wife just had occular surgery and now for the first time has vision.

Yeah yeah yeah, "another liberal taking joy in misfortune blah blah blah". I have no sympathy for hypocrites and political opportunists.

Till death do us part, sworn before god.

I get so sick and tired of the damn gay marriage blah blah blah. The guy got divorced, that has not got one bleeping thing to do with gay marriage. What, you think two homosexuals won't divorce?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Read what I have written again.
Christians are not the standard to be used, God and God alone is capable of maintaining the true, the complete, that which is forever integral and the unshakable standard.

Didn't God impregnate Mary when she was married to Joseph? And yet the Bible tells us that we shouldn't have sex with someone else's wife. Which is it? Is the Bible wrong? Or is God wrong? Or is God the standard unless he does something which the Bible says is wrong, in which case he can get away with it because he's God, but the rest of us better damn well fall in line?

And none of your responses deal with the fact that the Bible says that divorce is wrong and gay love is wrong and yet Christians only seem to care about one of those things. Can we just pick and choose which parts of the Bible to pay attention to? If so, doesn't it make using that dogma to craft our laws seem... I don't know, maybe a touch selective to you? Wouldn't that offend God?

 

[kage69]

Wow. It's not often you see such a stellar example of both political AND religious dogma rolled up into one poster.

The abject ignorance included makes a nice garnish too I must say. Bravo Effetti, either you are the new king of parody posters, or someone in dire need of serious help.


Karl Rove is a scumbag, and calling him a warrior is a grave insult to real ones. That he embraces the hypocrisy of social conservatives in deeds as well as words is unsurprising. The real news here is how anyone with functioning gray matter can actually compliment him.

Guess you'd have to be a Bush Apologist then...

 

[nobodyknows]

This thread is about Karl Rove getting a divorce. This is an accepted norm in our society.


I wasn't the one trying to make more out of it than it is...

If I was his wife and had to put up with his ugly, lying, fat ass at home all day I wouldn't be able to divorce him fast enough.

Too bad this didn't hit the news in time to get a public fued between them over the division of their assets, etc.

Is that "on topic" enough for you?

 

[palehorse]

Gay marriage and divorce are two related but still separate issues. Insisting that marriage only occur between opposite sexes, but personally getting a divorce (or two), does not make someone a hypocrite.

In order for Rove to be a true "hypocrite" on this issue, he would have to marry a man. Otherwise, there is no real "hypocrisy" here... just frothing partisan nonsense.

That said, I personally support both marriage and divorce for any gender combination -- gays should have every right to suffer through both if they so choose.

 

[nobodyknows]

^^^ So much for "family values"

 

[evident]

^^^ So much for "family values"

now him and rush limbaugh just need to marry each other

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Didn't God impregnate Mary when she was married to Joseph? And yet the Bible tells us that we shouldn't have sex with someone else's wife. Which is it? Is the Bible wrong? Or is God wrong? Or is God the standard unless he does something which the Bible says is wrong, in which case he can get away with it because he's God, but the rest of us better damn well fall in line?

And none of your responses deal with the fact that the Bible says that divorce is wrong and gay love is wrong and yet Christians only seem to care about one of those things. Can we just pick and choose which parts of the Bible to pay attention to? If so, doesn't it make using that dogma to craft our laws seem... I don't know, maybe a touch selective to you? Wouldn't that offend God?

Are you a member of God’s family?

Wow. It's not often you see such a stellar example of both political AND religious dogma rolled up into one poster.

The abject ignorance included makes a nice garnish too I must say. Bravo Effetti, either you are the new king of parody posters, or someone in dire need of serious help.


Karl Rove is a scumbag, and calling him a warrior is a grave insult to real ones. That he embraces the hypocrisy of social conservatives in deeds as well as words is unsurprising. The real news here is how anyone with functioning gray matter can actually compliment him.

Guess you'd have to be a Bush Apologist then...

President Bush is a brave and courageous man that kept America safe since 911.

 

[nobodyknows]

President Bush is a brave and courageous man that kept America safe since 911.

Why is it I get the feeling that God talks to you also???

 

[Avvocato Effetti]

Why is it I get the feeling that God talks to you also???

I am in continuous never ending contact with God. Are you?

 

[nobodyknows]

I am in continuous never ending contact with God. Are you?

What does that have to do with God speaking to you? Answer the question or does only your hairdresser know for sure?