Kansas Teacher Fired For Political Views

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Corn

Harvey, if I start a thread and claim in the title I'm 6 feet tall is the title misleading? Just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean it's false or misleading. If you could provide evidence the teacher's firing wasn't motivated in any way because of his political belief you might have a point. You haven't done so, therefore your opinion is as valid as Amused's.

You're welcome to your opinion, but even so, I didn't start a thread with a misleading title about it.

But thanks for posting about what I actually said, instead of pissing and moaning about mod actions I didn't take. :thumbsup:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Corn
Harvey, if I start a thread and claim in the title I'm 6 feet tall is the title misleading? Just because someone makes a claim doesn't mean it's false or misleading. If you could provide evidence the teacher's firing wasn't motivated in any way because of his political belief you might have a point. You haven't done so, therefore your opinion is as valid as Amused's.

I have to agree with my kernely friend here. I really fail to see what the big deal is and it only derails the thread.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Amused
Um, no. The thread was changed because of moderator bias, then locked because of disscussion of said bias derailed the OP. And now you come in here and start that disccussion up again after I did not mention it at ALL???

In both threads the title was part of MY commentary. You are not my editor nor the keeper of the "truth" as you see fit... no matter how much that tears you and a certain friend up.

I'll let Harvey's rebuttal speak for itself, that you stated as fact something that was merely an allegation. I will point out that I wasn't originally fond of changing people's topic titles, even when they were dishonest, simply because it provides an early warning to the OP's character and objectivity. It seems to me this really grew as an issue as a certain group of whining righties learned they could often get threads locked, or at least derailed, by screaming about titles. I'm curious if you ever spoke up to condemn their push for "censorship"?

And your last paragraph is a fucking joke. The board's act of reinstating him PROVES his firing was due to his political beliefs AND my original thread title commentary. ...

And this is where you demonstrate you are either clueless or dishonest. The act of reinstating him proves ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the basis for his dismissal. As someone who's been in management for many companies for many years, I can tell you it is most likely nothing more than a demonstration that employers are highly sensitive to the risk of wrongful termination lawsuits and that the school recognizes they didn't dot all their i's and cross all their t's.

As I have pointed out repeatedly, we really have no idea why he was actually released because the school isn't talking, and likely never will talk. That leaves Latham free to claim whatever he wants. Maybe it truly was due to his political beliefs. Maybe he molested his students. Maybe he's just an incompetent asshat. Likely it is a combination of several factors. There are thousands of reasons people lose their jobs, and it is quite common for the jilted employee to be less than fully forthcoming about his own termination. If you're not honest enough or savvy enough to recognize that just because it suits your ideology, there's no point in considering anything else you might say.

 

[ProfJohn]

Opinions left in thread titles should be left alone unless those opinions are incendiary (trolling or racial) or are so completely false that no 'sane' person would agree with the title.

The title of this thread seems acceptable and I don't see why it should have ever been edited.

BTW why haven't the following thread titles been edited since they seem far worse than this one:
"unions continue to show their scumbaggery"

"Israel stabs the Iranian people in the back"

"Saxby Chambliss is an idiot. Or a dangerous demagogue"

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: JD50
Haha, classic. Harvey derails a thread and then threatens to have them banned if they argue with him over the derailment.

Even better is when another MOD pops in and bans you Harvey will sit back and say "I had nothing to do with you being banned"

 

[Fern]

It's time to stop discussions about thread titles, moderation and the like; that is forbidden here and belongs elsewhere.

Please stay on-topic.

T.I.A.

Fern
P&N Moderator

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50
Haha, classic. Harvey derails a thread and then threatens to have them banned if they argue with him over the derailment.

Even better is when another MOD pops in and bans you Harvey will sit back and say "I had nothing to do with you being banned"

Hey kids, you know if you find this place so oppressive you can always make the choice to go someplace else, right? Hello? I'm sure you can get a full refund of your membership fees ... oh wait.

I get so sick and tired of all the whiny righties demanding the rest of the world conform to their personal biases, doubly so when they're a bunch of freeloading guests here just like the rest of us. For Christ's sake girls, grow a pair and learn to deal with life little annoyances and to take responsibility for your own choices.

YHPM

Fern
P&N Moderator

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: JD50
Haha, classic. Harvey derails a thread and then threatens to have them banned if they argue with him over the derailment.

Even better is when another MOD pops in and bans you Harvey will sit back and say "I had nothing to do with you being banned"

Hey kids, you know if you find this place so oppressive you can always make the choice to go someplace else, right? Hello? I'm sure you can get a full refund of your membership fees ... oh wait.

I get so sick and tired of all the whiny righties demanding the rest of the world conform to their personal biases, doubly so when they're a bunch of freeloading guests here just like the rest of us. For Christ's sake girls, grow a pair and learn to deal with life little annoyances and to take responsibility for your own choices.

lol in another words "I won."
:laugh:

YGPM

Fern
P&N Moderator

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Harvey


In both threads, you clearly had an agenda to skew the facts to pimp your own agenda. I wouldn't want to be your editor. I'd rather you continue to prove yourself for what you are.

look kids, it's the dumbass pot looking into the mirror and saying mr. kettle you are a bitch!

I mean, if we want to do some numbers on agenda driven posting by you and your fellow cadre of progressive hacks, just make sure you have a calculator with a full battery.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Harvey


In both threads, you clearly had an agenda to skew the facts to pimp your own agenda. I wouldn't want to be your editor. I'd rather you continue to prove yourself for what you are.

look kids, it's the dumbass pot looking into the mirror and saying mr. kettle you are a bitch!

I mean, if we want to do some numbers on agenda driven posting by you and your fellow cadre of progressive hacks, just make sure you have a calculator with a full battery.

Congrats, you're the last straw. Does it feel good to be the one who got Amused's thread locked?

We started to get back on track but even after things were dying down, and Fern was trying to get people back on topic, it wasn't happening.

Amused, I'm sorry to lock your thread. For my part I would have let it go, but it was never going to recover. People didn't want it to.

Hayabusa Rider- AnandTech Sr. Moderator