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Kansas City Chief NFL player commits suicide after earlier shooting

They left behind a 3-month-old infant, horrible.

I wonder if other signs of mental illness had been noticed before, or if this was somehow spontaneous.
 
That is truly tragic. He was a very talented player and that poor child is now fatherless. This is just a tragedy in the realest sense.
 
Yikes. Too bad for their infant.

Say what you want about Romeo's coaching skills, it takes a lot of courage and compassion to try to talk down a crazy person with a gun!
 
Staff tried to talk him out of it, but were unsuccessful. You spend so much time, effort & dedication to make it to the next level (NFL), and this how you end it. Most professional athletes begin the process when they're just kids.

You finally get there & this is how the story ends. Also left his 3 month old daughter behind with both parents removed. Tragic story.
 
djnsmith7 said:
Staff tried to talk him out of it, but were unsuccessful. You spend so much time, effort & dedication to make it to the next level (NFL), and this how you end it. Most professional athletes begin the process when they're just kids.

You finally get there & this is how the story ends. Also left his 3 month old daughter behind with both parents removed. Tragic story.
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If he had brain trauma though it wasn't like his thought process was ok. There's been a few notable suicides by NFL players in recent years.
 
Without speculating on causes, I expect the heat to get turned up on NFL mental health issues. If any other employer was having these issues regarding mental health, suicides, etc. leading up to a suicide at the workplace, there would be a major investigation
 
Farang said:
Without speculating on causes, I expect the heat to get turned up on NFL mental health issues. If any other employer was having these issues regarding mental health, suicides, etc. leading up to a suicide at the workplace, there would be a major investigation
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Like cops, or military, or postal employees?

Are the players mental because of the violence of the game, or are mental people attracted to the sport because of the violence of the game?
 
Nintendesert said:
If he had brain trauma though it wasn't like his thought process was ok. There's been a few notable suicides by NFL players in recent years.
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Junior Seau comes to mind although he was in the NFL for a lot longer. No telling what was wrong with this guy. Maybe the speed of the game has changed this drastically that the hits are more severe leading head trauma that leads to events like this.

It's kinda scary thinking about how much these concussions are coming to light. Just this season I thought my sister in law was crazy for considering not letting her kid play football. Now that more of these players are starting to sit out games due to head injuries, I can't say I wouldn't have 2nd thoughts if I had a son who wanted to play football. Granted, they're kids now, but a lifetime of hard hitting is kinda nuts if you think about it.
 
jjjayb said:
Like cops, or military, or postal employees?

Are the players mental because of the violence of the game, or are mental people attracted to the sport because of the violence of the game?
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Given the amount of cops and postal employees compared to NFL players it seems to be a more significant issue in the NFL, but military may have a comparable/worse problem.

You raise an interesting question. My first thought is that at the professional level, an athlete is there more out of talent for a particular sport/position than any initial choice that the game was their favorite. For example this guy had the physical attributes to be a power hitter in baseball, but maybe never had the hand/eye coordination to read pitches as well and was much better at football. To reach the professional level requires practice + physical gifts + talents for a particular set of skills in a give sport.

It could also be a professional athlete loves his sport the most because they are the most talented at it, obviously more fun to do what you're good at
 
jjjayb said:
Like cops, or military, or postal employees?

Are the players mental because of the violence of the game, or are mental people attracted to the sport because of the violence of the game?
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It's an interesting question, and though anyone doing research should be careful not to jump to conclusions, there appears to be a growing body of evidence that the problem is the physical nature of the game itself. There was a big deal made about this a year ago when three professional hockey players died in one off-season.

I can only speak about hockey, because I don't follow the NFL very close, but the players that lost their lives recently (both by suicide and OD), were players that were considered "enforcers". These were the players that constantly had to fight and got punched in the head a lot.

You don't often hear about offensive players (that are typically not as involved in the physical aspect of the game) speaking of having the same issues that the defenders/enforcers do unless they have been on the receiving end of multiple concussions.

How is it in the NFL? Like I said, since I don't follow football, I'm not actually sure if there are positions where the players are more likely to be hit in the head. If there are "enforcers" that typically are the ones getting hit the most, and these are the same players speaking of depression, and killing themselves, then perhaps it's possible that the cause is in fact just due to years of trauma to the head.
 
Farang said:
Without speculating on causes, I expect the heat to get turned up on NFL mental health issues. If any other employer was having these issues regarding mental health, suicides, etc. leading up to a suicide at the workplace, there would be a major investigation
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So what are the percentages of people in the NFL with "mental health issues" compared to other professional sports or other jobs? Do you have actual figures?

Or is this like when people were yapping about all the suicides at Foxconn when the suicide rate at the company was actually lower than the suicide rate of the general population in China or the United States?

-KeithP
 
BigToque said:
It's an interesting question, and though anyone doing research should be careful not to jump to conclusions, there appears to be a growing body of evidence that the problem is the physical nature of the game itself. There was a big deal made about this a year ago when three professional hockey players died in one off-season.

I can only speak about hockey, because I don't follow the NFL very close, but the players that lost their lives recently (both by suicide and OD), were players that were considered "enforcers". These were the players that constantly had to fight and got punched in the head a lot.

You don't often hear about offensive players (that are typically not as involved in the physical aspect of the game) speaking of having the same issues that the defenders/enforcers do unless they have been on the receiving end of multiple concussions.

How is it in the NFL? Like I said, since I don't follow football, I'm not actually sure if there are positions where the players are more likely to be hit in the head. If there are "enforcers" that typically are the ones getting hit the most, and these are the same players speaking of depression, and killing themselves, then perhaps it's possible that the cause is in fact just due to years of trauma to the head.
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Similar.. Junior Seau was one of the all-time great linebackers, he committed suicide, same position the Chiefs player also played. It's a position where violence is considered an asset and many hard hits are delivered with the player's head used as a torpedo.
 
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