Kamala vs the Orange Felon - Presidential Race 2024 - Polls, News, Etc...

[ch33zw1z]

So basically next year?

IMO, yes almost immediately

 

[kage69]

Honestly, it already feels like a one-party state already. Feckless Dems let it get to this point, and now they are completely locked out of everything.

I remember chuckling at some of the people here a couple of years ago who were proclaiming that tHe GoP iS dYiNg. They own everything - all 3 branches, governor's mansions, state legs, etc. How close are they now to even being able to calling a Constitutional Convention if they wanted to? Probably pretty damn close.

How do you even fight back against this?

You were right. I thought the promise of even more damage than 2016 would motivate people, certainly women. Turns out even women hate women. Latino men don't care about brown children thrown into cages deliberately to destroy families. A felon, rapist, insurrectionist and traitor is somehow more preferable than a super qualified woman, because grocery chains are charging too much at checkout. Time to get rid of the party protecting our rights and trying to implement anti-gouging legislation. Wow.



But the GOP is dead.

This is the GQP. Team Treason. The Putin Caucus.

 

[cytg111]

You were right.

But the GOP is dead.

This is the GQP. Team Treason. The Putin Caucus.

I think its safe to say that @gothuevos has been vindicated and has a few tons of diaper jokes on the books, prepaid.

 

[trenchfoot]

If anything, it seems the corporate giants of America will have Trump under their control, just as they have the SCOTUS locked up. They don't want Trump spoiling things for them now that they have the ability to get whatever they want out of him. All they have to do is keep lining Trump's pockets with cash and keep sucking up to him to keep his ego afloat and cooperative.

What really worries me is how our intelligence agencies will be flooded with Trump lackeys and sycophants, every one of them a national security risk writ large. Trump will be declassifying anything that he can sell for cash and favors.

The ransacking of the nation's coffers will be epic, thanks to those idiots who thought putting Trump back in the White House was a good idea.

It's still hard for me to believe that the majority of the nation wants Trump to continue his inept handling of the nation's business and corrupt it top down to suit his needs, every civil servant transformed into an obedient serf owned by His Majesty.

The kicker, no matter how badly Trump usurps The Constitution, no matter how badly Trump hurts the middle class and the poor, those people who weaponized their votes to get back at Trump's tormentors will never ever take responsibility for their aiding and abetting a known felon should he do what he said he'd do if he got his presidency back as they did in 2020 when Trump lost. Instead, they'll double down like they've done in the past on their pigheaded decisions and deny they were wrong to give him his job, that every crime and future crime Trump will surely commit in the future was/will be no big deal made into scandals by his enemies. Such is the madness, the insanity of electing Trump for reasons that have nothing to do with his absence of qualifications, with his criminal record, with his incompetent handling of everything he was in charge of.

What should have mattered was with ignorant and arrogant defiance totally ignored and replaced with emotionally charged hate and fear disguised behind a wall of falsities like "oh he did a better job with the economy" and " it's the hordes of rapists and child molesters that are streaming through our open borders", while being stupidly ignorant of the fact that they're humiliating and insulting the hard work our border patrol agents are doing from saying such things.

Meh, all I can do now is to observe and make my voice heard in resistance to the surge of lies and denials that will surely come from Trump's loyalists as Trump resumes his crime spree across the nation and the world. I've been scanning our local neighborhood forums shooting down the blatant ridiculous lies Trump's fanatics have been posting, demanding irrefutable proof of their claims of which they never do, and I will continue to do so. It's rather fun making these liars run and hide.

 

[kage69]

So long SCOTUS, so long climate goals, enjoy your second class status ladies. Here come purges, holy rollers taking over institutions and more rights being stripped away.

Pretty much this.

also

The Fuckening, then The Recrudescence. I like it.

Seriously though. We just out Brexited the UK.

 

[kage69]

May have started already!

 

[kage69]

Good place to donate to as well

GQP has been trying to shut stuff like this down, get what you can while you can.

 

[pmv]

Can't help but think some people owe @gothuevos an apology.
I suppose one could argue that even when doom-mongering turns out to be accurate it's not that helpful. But I don't think that what turned out to be entirely justified anxiety and worry merited the abuse it got.

The scale of the Democrats' defeat really is shocking. Trump seems almost certain to win the popular vote, took all the swing states, voters moved towards him in pretty much every demographic group. Utter effing disaster (most of all for the global climate, but also the economy, and for Ukraine).

 

[zinfamous]

You were right. I thought the promise of even more damage than 2016 would motivate people, certainly women. Turns out even women hate women. Latino men don't care about brown children thrown into cages deliberately to destroy families. A felon, rapist, insurrectionist and traitor is somehow more preferable than a super qualified woman, because grocery chains are charging too much at checkout. Time to get rid of the party protecting our rights and trying to implement anti-gouging legislation. Wow.



But the GOP is dead.

This is the GQP. Team Treason. The Putin Caucus.

One brief thought I heard yesterday on NPR, is that with abortion protections on the ballot in several states, and already having passed over the previous couple of years, women essentially figured that issue "settled" and so sticking with fascism and legalized rape under Trump wasn't actually a problem because now their health, at least, is "protected" in their state. That, and Trump had said that he would veto a federal abortion ban (you know, because apparently there are some people that think Trump doesn't lie?).

mind-boggling, but there it is. It does explain how successful most of these bills were, while on the rest of the ballot the very same people voted for the crocodiles.

 

[Indus]

mind-boggling, but there it is. It does explain how successful most of these bills were, while on the rest of the ballot the very same people voted for the crocodiles.

Most women are really good at compartmentalization -- much better than men actually.

This can be both good and bad!

 

[trenchfoot]

Millions of Trump voters fucked around. I can't wait for them to find out and silently eat the shit Trump is going to serve them, never admitting how they were duped, many of them claiming they were victims of a liberal plot that made them vote for the Orange turd. They will either stubbornly double down on Trump or simply walk away from their mistake as the new silent majority.

 

[Indus]

Millions of Trump voters fucked around. I can't wait for them to find out and silently eat the shit Trump is going to serve them, never admitting how they were duped, many of them claiming they were victims of a liberal plot that made them vote for the Orange turd. They will either stubbornly double down on Trump or simply walk away from their mistake as the new silent majority.

Just stop it.

We know 2 things about Americans more than others..

1. They're fickle
2. If provoked.. they will never apologize and often double/ triple down on what they did before.. they expect to be treated with respect regardless.

So use a carrot and not a stick.

And by every metric if somehow there are elections after this time.. I wouldn't count on them supporting Trump or MAGA unless provoked into it by the left.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Just stop it.

We know 2 things about Americans more than others..

1. They're fickle
2. If provoked.. they will never apologize and often double/ triple down on what they did before.. they expect to be treated with respect regardless.

So use a carrot and not a stick.

And by every metric if somehow there are elections after this time.. I wouldn't count on them supporting Trump or MAGA unless provoked into it by the left.

Biden administration had plenty of carrots including the largest infrastructure investment since the great depression.

Look where that got us.

 

[gothuevos]

Can't help but think some people owe @gothuevos an apology.
I suppose one could argue that even when doom-mongering turns out to be accurate it's not that helpful. But I don't think that what turned out to be entirely justified anxiety and worry merited the abuse it got.

The scale of the Democrats' defeat really is shocking. Trump seems almost certain to win the popular vote, took all the swing states, voters moved towards him in pretty much every demographic group. Utter effing disaster (most of all for the global climate, but also the economy, and for Ukraine).

No, I don't need/want/deserve an apology. If anything, I apologize if my constant doomerism made this place unbearable. It really was not my intention. It was just a helpless feeling seeing all these warning lights go off - really, my ire is mostly directed at the feckless Democratic party, who was supposed to be a bulwark against this but now TWICE has been utterly swept aside by Trump and the GOP. Completely fucking useless.

Dems and their useless consultant class that apparently had ZERO insight into what the country was thinking. Yeah, hindsight was 20/20, but now looking back, how do you even let Kamala say "Yeah, I wouldn't do anything differently" ??????????? Just one of many gaffes along the way.

Yeah the Dems are relegated to the ash heap of history, and we are so, so absolutely fucked it is difficult to even put into words.

 

[Indus]

No, I don't need/want/deserve an apology. If anything, I apologize if my constant doomerism made this place unbearable. It really was not my intention. It was just a helpless feeling seeing all these warning lights go off - really, my ire is mostly directed at the feckless Democratic party, who was supposed to be a bulwark against this but now TWICE has been utterly swept aside by Trump and the GOP. Completely fucking useless.

Dems and their useless consultant class that apparently had ZERO insight into what the country was thinking. Yeah, hindsight was 20/20, but now looking back, how do you even let Kamala say "Yeah, I wouldn't do anything differently" ??????????? Just one of many gaffes along the way.

Yeah the Dems are relegated to the ash heap of history, and we are so, so absolutely fucked it is difficult to even put into words.

I think the dem party needs to die more than the GOP.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

IMO, yes almost immediately

I am okay with this and I know there will be pain.
Filibuster has out lived it’s purpose it needs to go. Democrats haven’t chosen to do it.
Let Republicans pass shitty bills and repeal stuff that hurts their feelings like Social Security and ACA. Then let’s sit and wait and see how voters react.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Biden administration had plenty of carrots including the largest infrastructure investment since the great depression.

Look where that got us.

They didn’t talk about them enough, it is that simple and it’s one thing Trump does right he just does it in a tacky manner. Should look at what I have done.

 

[gothuevos]

I think the dem party needs to die more than the GOP.

Politically speaking, it died on Tuesday.

 

[gothuevos]

I am okay with this and I know there will be pain.
Filibuster has out lived it’s purpose it needs to go. Democrats haven’t chosen to do it.
Let Republicans pass shitty bills and repeal stuff that hurts their feelings like Social Security and ACA. Then let’s sit and wait and see how voters react.

I used to think that eventually there would be a line the GOP would cross, and that there would be such a crushing backlash that they would be forced to moderate. After this week, I'm not so sure. Even abortion has lost steam.

So yeah, they could nuke the filibuster, gut SS and ACA, and honestly I don't think the voters would really punish them. The GOP can just continue to paint the Dems as commies and warn about taxes going up and that's enough for this populace to cave in to them.

Either that, or they eventually pass some legislation that effectively grants them one-party rule so it's a moot point anyways.

 

[ch33zw1z]

I am okay with this and I know there will be pain.
Filibuster has out lived it’s purpose it needs to go. Democrats haven’t chosen to do it.
Let Republicans pass shitty bills and repeal stuff that hurts their feelings like Social Security and ACA. Then let’s sit and wait and see how voters react.

Sounds great in theory. Loving it, except it will impact me and mine when the ACA is axed and pre-existing conditions are a DQ. My kids both have pre-existing conditions, and so do I.

It’s just another way for the R’s to screw Americans harder, and they’ll probably get applause while it happens from the gen pop who can’t be bothers to educate themselves

 

[ch33zw1z]

They didn’t talk about them enough, it is that simple and it’s one thing Trump does right he just does it in a tacky manner. Should look at what I have done.

Yes the Dems should be bragging like all the time. But it also requires people to get out of their info bubble.

Example: wifey came to me yesterday and asked if P2025 was the Dems plan? She had seen this on FB for like two days. I said no, and a simple google search would tell you different. Millions of people can simply not be bothered to vet information, and don’t have any else to help them.

 

[K1052]

Finally pulled the trigger and just deleted my Twitter account - I want nothing to do with a Musk product. I'll just find the people I wanted to follow on BlueSky, or find others to follow.

The exodus is certainly real among the people I follow.

 

[K1052]

US suppliers, importers prepare for promised Trump tariff

Some U.S. businesses are activating plans to protect their businesses from President-elect Donald Trump's promise to slap new and potentially hefty tariffs on a wide swath of goods from countries including China and Mexico - the top U.S. trading partners.

Trump proposed a 10% tariff on all U.S. imports and a 60% levy on Chinese-made products, which if enacted would affect the entire economy by pushing consumer prices higher and stoking retaliatory levies on American exports. Trump also threatened to impose a 25% tariff on all imports from Mexico.

Companies are pulling orders up and shifting where they source stuff in the future. Both of these coping tactics cost $ and you the consumer will be paying soon enough.

 

[Brainonska511]

The exodus is certainly real among the people I follow.

Saw a ton of people just appearing the discover section making similar announcements. People were saying that their Twitter algorithm became heavy, intolerable MAGA after the election, leading to what appears to be a fairly large exodus.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Sounds great in theory. Loving it, except it will impact me and mine when the ACA is axed and pre-existing conditions are a DQ. My kids both have pre-existing conditions, and so do I.

It’s just another way for the R’s to screw Americans harder, and they’ll probably get applause while it happens from the gen pop who can’t be bothers to educate themselves

You live in MA you’d be fine for healthcare.