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Indus

Lifer
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I just had to check you.

I still see VP Harris 47.9% to the menace's 46.6%
That's 1.3 % to VP Harris.

I still remember 2016.. 538 gave 29.8% chance to the eventual winner.. So as long as Kam is above that.. I am still hoping Gen Z can save us!
 

gothuevos

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I just had to check you.

I still see VP Harris 47.9% to the menace's 46.6%
That's 1.3 % to VP Harris.
 

Indus

Lifer
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Zorba

Lifer
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Campaigning in Texas is stupid. Pennsylvania is winnable.
IIRC if the Rio Grande Valley voted the same way in 2020 that they voted in 2016, Biden would've gotten Texas. Getting support down there will be critical for getting Allred into the Senate. But I mostly think she should do Rogan, which is already in TX.
 
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cytg111

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Yea Rogan might be a good idea. Might. I am still of the opinion that if Rogan wants to roast her then it's gonna be a net negative all around.
 

Zorba

Lifer
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Yea Rogan might be a good idea. Might. I am still of the opinion that if Rogan wants to roast her then it's gonna be a net negative all around.
Yeah, I don't know much about Rogan, as I've never listened to him and have no interest in it. I've heard that in general he is a conversationalist interviewer that more than likely wouldn't turn into hannity on her.
 
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I like this one in the thread on 3 hours on Rogan, where 95% of the comments paint Trump as a rambling incoherent nincompoop with zero comprehension of history and infinitely unpresidential.

Trump as puppet of Vance and Musk.jpg
 
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Muse

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They did a poll in Denmark 88/5 in favor of Harris :p
Honest: I've lately contemplated where I'd like to emigrate to if Trump wins this election and Denmark is right up there. Norway and Sweden too. Also, Mexico because (1) It's close and I have a lot of relatives in Southern California and (2) I had IIRC 3 semesters of Spanish in grade school.
 
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All else being equal, though, wealthy people should vote for the candidate that represents the interests of the wealthy, working-class people should vote for the one who best represents their interests.
No, no and no. Call me an idealist. A dreamer. Just don't call me late for dinner.

Warren Buffett disparages America for taxing his secretary at a higher rate than him. Bill Gates gave 50M to nonprofit campaigning for Kamala. I'm not alone here.

 
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jdubs03

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No, no and no. Call me an idealist. A dreamer. Just don't call me late for dinner.

Warren Buffett disparages America for taxing his secretary at a higher rate than him. Bill Gates gave 50M to nonprofit campaigning for Kamala. I'm not alone here.

Balmer is also of the opinion that the rich should pay more in taxes.
Outside of the top marginal tax rate, I think we all know the biggest issue with all the loopholes that accounts can find for their wealthy clients. Also, a lot of their wealth comes from their stock ownership; so there’s that, something Harris is trying to do something about
 
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I just had to check you.

I still see VP Harris 47.9% to the menace's 46.6%
That's 1.3 % to VP Harris.
Thank you for checking but it probably wasn't necessary, given the source.
 
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No, no and no. Call me an idealist. A dreamer. Just don't call me late for dinner.

Warren Buffett disparages America for taxing his secretary at a higher rate than him. Bill Gates gave 50M to nonprofit campaigning for Kamala. I'm not alone here.



There are a handful of people who, to some degree, go against their own class-based self-interests. But they are a minority, often there's some other (non economic) factor involved (e.g. race or sexuality) and often it turns out you can't really trust them, as they have a tendency to revert to their roots (e.g. Chris Hitchens, privately-educated son of an admiral, eventually dropped his youthful pretense at leftism and became the imperialist he was always going to be - same is true of a lot of neo-cons).

You can only really trust people's political allegiances when they are clearly based on self-interest. I admit, a complication is that the definition of "self" is not fixed, as people can have multiple parts to their identity.