Kamala vs the Orange Felon - Presidential Race 2024 - Polls, News, Etc...

[Fanatical Meat]

Surely you agree that lots of his listeners are voting for Harris. I agree his audience is skewed to the right but the idea that nobody listening to his show can be reached seems highly unlikely.

It’s a risk/reward thing.

In my opinion huge risk with minimal reward.

 

[BoomerD]

It’s a risk/reward thing.

In my opinion huge risk with minimal reward.

Agreed. I don’t see her getting many “undecided” voters from the Rogan podcast.

 

[gothuevos]

Surely you agree that lots of his listeners are voting for Harris. I agree his audience is skewed to the right but the idea that nobody listening to his show can be reached seems highly unlikely.

I actually think it's no risk/no reward.

Meaning, who is even undecided at this point? Certainly not a Joe Rogan listener. She convinces nobody going on his show, and conversely, she also loses nobody. Seems like a waste of time.

 

[Muse]

Yeah there is this line of thought. Another is that they are trying to create the impression that he's going to win to depress D turnout.

I'm not sure that's effective though since it definitely did not work in 22.

Uncertainty of Democratic victories it seems to me would have the effect of ramping up Democratic turnout. I don't care for the anxiety but Democratic victories (especially POTUS) would prepare me for winter better than anything else imaginable. IT'S WHAT I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS.

 

[Muse]

Fox was playing on the tv at a diner where I was lunching. A poll was flashed on the screen showing that god fearing white Christians were voting for Trump while black Christians, Jews, and atheists were voting for Harris. Fox then convened a round table of Christian preachers and one "Christian influencer*" to discuss why atheists supported Harris. It was every bit as stupid as one might imagine. They were all in agreement that atheists support Harris because they are baaaad people. The preachers didn't seem to notice that each of them was going to straight to hell in the judgement of all the other preachers. Fox is a 24/7 mind fuck.

*To be honest, I'm not sure what the difference is between a preacher and a Christian influencer.

TBH, I would not have ordered and would have walked out, perhaps commenting to staff that I object to being subjected to shameless propaganda/lies. But I don't live where you live, so there's that. I don't get Fox, just OTA TV. If I did, there'd be a risk of cracks in my TV screen.

 

[fskimospy]

I actually think it's no risk/no reward.

Meaning, who is even undecided at this point? Certainly not a Joe Rogan listener. She convinces nobody going on his show, and conversely, she also loses nobody. Seems like a waste of time.

The idea that nobody is actually undecided is certainly wrong. As for if it’s a waste of time if there are any undecided voters left, and there are, you might as well try and convince them.

 

[fskimospy]

It’s a risk/reward thing.

In my opinion huge risk with minimal reward.

I strongly disagree. Voter outreach is important.

 

[nakedfrog]

I don't think it's unreasonable to think there are some Rogan listeners that "stay out of politics" (like AdamK47) who have a caricatured version of Harris in their minds because they haven't actually sought out any coverage outside their normal entertainment channels that could come away thinking "huh, she's actually not bad".

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I strongly disagree. Voter outreach is important.

If wrong I’ll happily admit so.

 

[iRONic]

Rogan: F that guy.

 

[Indus]

The whole idea of Trump gaining voters over Gaza makes no sense unless your argument is that American foreign policy has been to favorable to the Palestinians and that the public is itching for Israel to 'finish the job' to use Trump's words.

It's more of "addition by subtraction".. double haters.. Chapelle Roan.. Gaza Bros.. Uncommitted.. call em what you like.. but by not voting for Kam they are lowering her vote count enormously that Trump can actually win those states.

 

[Indus]

I actually think it's no risk/no reward.

Meaning, who is even undecided at this point? Certainly not a Joe Rogan listener. She convinces nobody going on his show, and conversely, she also loses nobody. Seems like a waste of time.

If she can just come across as non threatening.. it could convince some Republicans to stay home instead of voting for a guy they don't like.

There's no reason for Dems to have a monopoly on Uncomitted/ Torn/ Jaded.

 

[Indus]

BTW It's just not in my head about NY becoming more red..

You've seen Hochul's and Adams's numbers.
You've seen the house switch from blue to red because of NYC + suburbs tipping red.

And this is the cause:

I said it the last time 2 weeks ago when I went to see my car mechanic.. these are libs but they're being ignored repeatedly.

Until the dems fix this.. the bluest area in the country will keep on losing people to Trump.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Agreed. I don’t see her getting many “undecided” voters from the Rogan podcast.

Probably will never know but there might be some who have their bubble popped just by seeing her in that environment. That said pretty much anything can be a "gotcha" this day and age so, meh.

 

[lopri]

The whole idea of Trump gaining voters over Gaza makes no sense unless your argument is that American foreign policy has been to favorable to the Palestinians and that the public is itching for Israel to 'finish the job' to use Trump's words.

It makes sense to me. Biden/Harris as well as the Dem establishment need to be punished. Gaza happened and is happening everyday under their watch. Also in recent 60 minutes interview Harris said Iran is our No.1 adversary. What the hell is she smoking? It shows how thoroughly Harris is seeped in Neocon/Zionist/Deep state influence.

I am not sure whether I can bring myself to vote for Trump, but I sure as hell will not vote for Harris.

 

[IronWing]

I strongly disagree. Voter outreach is important.

Spending time/energy on getting the voters who already agree with her to the polls is far more important than trying to win over undecideds.

 

[K1052]

It makes sense to me. Biden/Harris as well as the Dem establishment need to be punished. Gaza happened and is happening everyday under their watch. Also in recent 60 minutes interview Harris said Iran is our No.1 adversary. What the hell is she smoking? It shows how thoroughly Harris is seeped in Neocon/Zionist/Deep state influence.

I am not sure whether I can bring myself to vote for Trump, but I sure as hell will not vote for Harris.

The idea that Israel is going to be more constrained regarding the Palestinians when Trump's primary complaint about what's going on is that Israel is letting the world see it seems epically misguided.

 

[K1052]

Spending time/energy on getting the voters who already agree with her to the polls is far more important than trying to win over undecideds.

She has a vast turnout operation doing nothing but this. Yes, she should be pursuing the undecideds that remain. Aggressively.

 

[balloonshark]

It makes sense to me. Biden/Harris as well as the Dem establishment need to be punished. Gaza happened and is happening everyday under their watch. Also in recent 60 minutes interview Harris said Iran is our No.1 adversary. What the hell is she smoking? It shows how thoroughly Harris is seeped in Neocon/Zionist/Deep state influence.

I am not sure whether I can bring myself to vote for Trump, but I sure as hell will not vote for Harris.

I suggest you choose carefully because it may be the last time you're allowed vote.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

It makes sense to me. Biden/Harris as well as the Dem establishment need to be punished. Gaza happened and is happening everyday under their watch. Also in recent 60 minutes interview Harris said Iran is our No.1 adversary. What the hell is she smoking? It shows how thoroughly Harris is seeped in Neocon/Zionist/Deep state influence.

I am not sure whether I can bring myself to vote for Trump, but I sure as hell will not vote for Harris.

Marked for follow up next year.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Harris has apparently made a pretty huge improvement over Biden with AAPI voters.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1846343952578105614

 

[brycejones]

It makes sense to me. Biden/Harris as well as the Dem establishment need to be punished. Gaza happened and is happening everyday under their watch. Also in recent 60 minutes interview Harris said Iran is our No.1 adversary. What the hell is she smoking? It shows how thoroughly Harris is seeped in Neocon/Zionist/Deep state influence.

I am not sure whether I can bring myself to vote for Trump, but I sure as hell will not vote for Harris.

A vote for anyone but Harris is a vote for Trump.

 

[MrSquished]

A vote for anyone but Harris is a vote for Trump.

these people are ignorant fools, similar to MAGA just from a different angle.

 

[brycejones]

BTW It's just not in my head about NY becoming more red..

You've seen Hochul's and Adams's numbers.
You've seen the house switch from blue to red because of NYC + suburbs tipping red.

And this is the cause:

I said it the last time 2 weeks ago when I went to see my car mechanic.. these are libs but they're being ignored repeatedly.

Until the dems fix this.. the bluest area in the country will keep on losing people to Trump.

Ahh yes, the NYPD who consistently tells the truth.

LOL

 

[ivwshane]

It makes sense to me. Biden/Harris as well as the Dem establishment need to be punished. Gaza happened and is happening everyday under their watch. Also in recent 60 minutes interview Harris said Iran is our No.1 adversary. What the hell is she smoking? It shows how thoroughly Harris is seeped in Neocon/Zionist/Deep state influence.

I am not sure whether I can bring myself to vote for Trump, but I sure as hell will not vote for Harris.

No offense but you sound f-ing dumb. No matter whose watch “Gaza happened” on is no ones fault except those involved.