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woolfe9998

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RGB issues statement that she has a cancer recurrence and is undergoing treatment with favorable results.

She's certainly more transparent than Roberts who we only found out much later was recently hospitalized with a head injury.


How can one person survive so many different cancers, and recurrences of the same ones? One cancer she survived was pancreatic which has a ~5% survival chance. She is beating some very long odds.
 

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How can one person survive so many different cancers, and recurrences of the same ones? One cancer she survived was pancreatic which has a ~5% survival chance. She is beating some very long odds.

Early stage pancreatic cancer is pretty treatable and thus actually has a good 5 year survival rate. Surely because of previous cancers her doctors watch her health like hawks. Sounds like this was caught very early too.
 
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woolfe9998

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Outrunning the reaper through sheer force of will.

Yeah, not really a believer in beating cancer through force of will. More likely she is keeping herself in the best shape possible for her age, and has also been pretty damn lucky.
 

hal2kilo

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How can one person survive so many different cancers, and recurrences of the same ones? One cancer she survived was pancreatic which has a ~5% survival chance. She is beating some very long odds.
Just stay strong to run out the clock.
 

woolfe9998

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Early stage pancreatic cancer is pretty treatable and thus actually has a good 5 year survival rate. Surely because of previous cancers her doctors watch her health like hawks. Sounds like this was caught very early too.

Checked and localized pancreatic has 37% 5 year survival. But it's unclear if it was localized, or had metastasized from from the lung cancer she had been treated surgically for the previous year. If the lung cancer had become metastatic, she is lucky indeed to still be alive.
 

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How can one person survive so many different cancers, and recurrences of the same ones? One cancer she survived was pancreatic which has a ~5% survival chance. She is beating some very long odds.

Almost all cancers are highly treatable if detected early. Very few are a death sentence in the early stages. With her being a previous cancer survivor she gets regular testing so everything is caught and treated early. It also doesn’t hurt she has had the best access to the best healthcare the world can provide for the last 30+ years.
 

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RGB issues statement that she has a cancer recurrence and is undergoing treatment with favorable results.

She's certainly more transparent than Roberts who we only found out much later was recently hospitalized with a head injury.

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Fudge!

Glad she’s responding to the chemo - again.
 

woolfe9998

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Almost all cancers are highly treatable if detected early. Very few are a death sentence in the early stages. With her being a previous cancer survivor she gets regular testing so everything is caught and treated early. It also doesn’t hurt she has had the best access to the best healthcare the world can provide for the last 30+ years.

Yes, but note my link above which says stage 1 pancreatic has a 37% survival chance. Pancreatic is the single deadliest of all the relatively common cancer types. It usually means death even at early stages. But as I said above, this might actually have started as metastatic lung cancer which spread to her pancreas. Survival chance of lung cancer once metastasized is very poor.

I'm very aware of the importance of early detection. My father was saved from esophageal cancer because his gastroenterologist insisted on endoscopies once every six months.
 
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woolfe9998

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I feel like at this stage she's just rubbing it into all the ill wishers faces.

If she dies say within weeks of Biden taking office, the mythologizing of this will be epic. They'll say her cancer cells were as fed up with Trump and the GOP as everyone else, and decided to just stop dividing for awhile.
 
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woolfe9998

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This latest recurrence shows up on her liver.

If this is one cancer which started with the lungs, spread to the pancreas, and is now in her liver, even though the lung and pancreatic tumors were surgically removed, my guess is that she will eventually succumb to this. It's more a question of when rather than if.
 
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With the information you provide, a pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor makes the most sense. Better prognosis than adenocarcinoma. Mostly metastasizes to the liver, but lung is not unusual even without liver mets. Other cancers metastasizing to the pancreas is rare.
 

hal2kilo

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With the information you provide, a pancreatic neuroendocrine tumor makes the most sense. Better prognosis than adenocarcinoma. Mostly metastasizes to the liver, but lung is not unusual even without liver mets. Other cancers metastasizing to the pancreas is rare.
Are you saying that most/all pancreatic cancers start in the pancreas?
 

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Checked and localized pancreatic has 37% 5 year survival. But it's unclear if it was localized, or had metastasized from from the lung cancer she had been treated surgically for the previous year. If the lung cancer had become metastatic, she is lucky indeed to still be alive.
From my limited understanding it hasn’t been disclosed which type of pancreatic cancer she had. There are two primary types I believe, one of which is exceptionally deadly (the type that killed Patrick Swayze) and one that is really not that bad. (The one that killed Steve Jobs because he tried to treat it by eating fruits and nuts)
 

woolfe9998

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From my limited understanding it hasn’t been disclosed which type of pancreatic cancer she had. There are two primary types I believe, one of which is exceptionally deadly (the type that killed Patrick Swayze) and one that is really not that bad. (The one that killed Steve Jobs because he tried to treat it by eating fruits and nuts)

The one which isn't that bad is pretty rare IIRC. The deadlier one is far more common. But also, as I said above, this may not have been primary pancreatic, but a metastasis of her lung cancer which had been surgically removed the prior year. And this new one is on the liver. So it looks like she has a metastatic cancer which started in her lungs and is spreading to various organs. Not a good long term prognosis.
 

fskimospy

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The one which isn't that bad is pretty rare IIRC. The deadlier one is far more common. But also, as I said above, this may not have been primary pancreatic, but a metastasis of her lung cancer which had been surgically removed the prior year. And this new one is on the liver. So it looks like she has a metastatic cancer which started in her lungs and is spreading to various organs. Not a good long term prognosis.

Agreed. No matter what cancer you have, this many recurrences does not speak well.
 

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Are you saying that most/all pancreatic cancers start in the pancreas?

Every pancreatic cancer starts in the pancreas. They can spread (metastasize) to other organs. Other cancers can spread to the pancreas too, but that is rare.
 

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Every pancreatic cancer starts in the pancreas. They can spread (metastasize) to other organs. Other cancers can spread to the pancreas too, but that is rare.
Yes, from my understanding when someone says ‘X cancer’ the X refers to the type of cells that have become cancerous, not necessarily where the tumor is located. Is that correct?
 

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Yes, from my understanding when someone says ‘X cancer’ the X refers to the type of cells that have become cancerous, not necessarily where the tumor is located. Is that correct?

IIRC it refers to the place where it started, or what they call the "primary" site. So either she had pancreatic cancer or she had lung cancer which spread to the pancreas, which would just be called "lung cancer."