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[momeNt]

Can someone clarify for me, is sayingyou want to kill Americans and death to the infidels, but doing no actions to ever accomplish what you said, make you an "imminent threat"?

 

[sigurros81]

And as Robert Gibbs said, he should have a better father. I mean it is his fault his dad preached against the WoT and he deserves execution without trial for it right? Fuck him for being 16 and associating with these people.

I'm pretty sure I was capable of making moral choices when I was 16, but then again I'm a pretty smart person compared to a lot of the folks posting on this board, let alone some dumbass though may or may not have thought it to be cool to travel oversees to contribute in the anti-american war.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Yeah fuck this kid

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulrahman_al-Aulaqi

Notice how the administration lied about his age in an attempt to justify blowing him up. I am sure we can expect them to be more truthful in future assassinations of US citizens.

When a 10 yr old can handle and shoot an AK47; a 16 year old can handle most any weapon being used by a terrorist group.

Age nor sex is not an excuse and should not be used as an exclusion for targeting.

I am not trying to justify the actions as they are; but indicating that limit filtering does not apply and has never applied in a conflict since gunpowder became useful in a weapon.

With a sword; it is easy to tell what the opponent is capable of.
With the portable bomb, pistol, rifle, shoulder missiles; those lines have gone away.

 

[Genx87]

I'm pretty sure I was capable of making moral choices when I was 16, but then again I'm a pretty smart person compared to a lot of the folks posting on this board, let alone some dumbass though may or may not have thought it to be cool to travel oversees to contribute in the anti-american war.

Heh you think this kid had a choice? If your parents moved you would you be able to say no?

 

[Genx87]

When a 10 yr old can handle and shoot an AK47; a 16 year old can handle most any weapon being used by a terrorist group.

Age nor sex is not an excuse and should not be used as an exclusion for targeting.

I am not trying to justify the actions as they are; but indicating that limit filtering does not apply and has never applied in a conflict since gunpowder became useful in a weapon.

With a sword; it is easy to tell what the opponent is capable of.
With the portable bomb, pistol, rifle, shoulder missiles; those lines have gone away.

If this kid was pointing a gun at an American soldier your point stands. But he wasnt. I am not sure what he really did outside of having a father Obama wanted dead. If he was a terrorist why didnt the admin indict him as such? Hell why didnt they indict his father before dropping a bomb on him?

 

[sigurros81]

Heh you think this kid had a choice? If your parents moved you would you be able to say no?

Unless you're a fucking idiot, yes. If my parents wanted to move, I may not be happy about it, but I can deal with it. If my parents want to move to another country to become traitors against America, I will report their dumbasses. Personally, I remember not agreeing with my parents on a lot of things when I was 16, but maybe you're one of those kids that blindly follow his parents around to no end, no matter how crazy they may be.

 

[Genx87]

Unless you're a fucking idiot, yes. If my parents wanted to move, I may not be happy about it, but I can deal with it. If my parents want to move to another country to become traitors against America, I will report their dumbasses. Personally, I remember not agreeing with my parents on a lot of things when I was 16, but maybe you're one of those kids that blindly follow his parents around to no end, no matter how crazy they may be.

/facepalm

Sure thing there buddy. Turning in your parents lol
Talk about living in fantasy land.

 

[sigurros81]

/facepalm

Sure thing there buddy. Turning in your parents lol
Talk about living in fantasy land.

Right, because it's so fantastical if a 16 year old kid is capable of disagreeing with his/her parents, let alone if the parents are Al Quaeda operatives that plot on killing Americans. 🙄

 

[ivwshane]

You little sleaze turd, you have to scrape the bottom of your bucket to find such useless and barely advertised sites as that e-mail site from code pink. No main stream media coverage on Nightly News that they used to get or even got when it was rumored that Bush may go to Europe. Or when Condoleeza Rice or even Rove FFS was being harassed and threatened.

http://www.salon.com/2011/11/23/bush_and_blair_found_guilty_of_war_crimes_for_iraq_attack/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/05/bush-switzerland-torture_n_819175.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/feb/06/george-bush-trip-to-switzerland
http://www.salon.com/2011/02/07/bush_amnesty_arrest/
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2011/02/bush_not_at_risk_of_arrest_in.html
http://www.examiner.com/article/cod...n-s-arrest-of-condoleezza-rice-for-war-crimes
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0812/80288.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ries_to_arrest_karl_rove_at_book_signing.html

You lying sack of garbage.

Rachel Maddow isn't mainstream? Code pink was brought up by you and you were once again wrong.

Keep trying you piece of shit. Why don't you create another bullshit conspiracy thread to go with your new, "I'm a partisan hack, Obama hating, liar" avatar?


Oh and by the way, my links were from several months ago so none of the recent developments on this story were posted. I'm sure you knew that because you checked them out (of course you didn't).

 

[Incorruptible]

george bush violates the Constitution and the left is outraged, obama does it and his lapdogs cheer him on and the media does nothing, love the hypocrisy

 

[nageov3t]

I listen to a libertarian podcast occasionally and I thought the guy made a good point a couple months ago... at least with a Republican in the White House, Democrats would try and provide some oversight.

with a Democrat ignoring civil liberties, other Democrats look the other way and Republicans are happy to see him turn to the dark side.

 

[momeNt]

george bush violates the Constitution and the left is outraged, obama does it and his lapdogs cheer him on and the media does nothing, love the hypocrisy

What's funny is that Ausm is the thread creator. Eskimo doesn't like this either.

There are some retards in here that aren't really considered on this forum shills for obama, just dumb trolls that are playing stupid and asking what the big deal is.

 

[Ausm]

I listen to a libertarian podcast occasionally and I thought the guy made a good point a couple months ago... at least with a Republican in the White House, Democrats would try and provide some oversight.

with a Democrat ignoring civil liberties, other Democrats look the other way and Republicans are happy to see him turn to the dark side.

Very good analogy here but there are many Liberal activists who are outraged by this but we have yet to here squat from really any Democrat on the Hill.

 

[chucky2]

What's funny is that Ausm is the thread creator. Eskimo doesn't like this either.

There are some retards in here that aren't really considered on this forum shills for obama, just dumb trolls that are playing stupid and asking what the big deal is.

The problem really is, when the 'evil Bush&Co' was doing things like this (heck, not even this bad), The Left here was so frothing at the mouth all consumed with all things Bush&Co, that even threads that had nothing to do with Bush were BDSd by these Left jizz guzzlers. I mean, anyone that was here in P&N can remember the level of BDS from many of the P&N Lefties. Now, their Messiah is in office, and...WhereTF is their previous level of insanity??? Almost magically, their moral outrage evaporates, and you get little 'Oh, I'm just, my gosh, you know, wow, just, oh boy, um, just, gee, "outraged" by this' comments from them like that equals the fervor they had when Bush was in office. It takes any (that they even had) credibility and tanks it to basically zero.

Chuck

 

[Ausm]

The problem really is, when the 'evil Bush&Co' was doing things like this (heck, not even this bad), The Left here was so frothing at the mouth all consumed with all things Bush&Co, that even threads that had nothing to do with Bush were BDSd by these Left jizz guzzlers. I mean, anyone that was here in P&N can remember the level of BDS from many of the P&N Lefties. Now, their Messiah is in office, and...WhereTF is their previous level of insanity??? Almost magically, their moral outrage evaporates, and you get little 'Oh, I'm just, my gosh, you know, wow, just, oh boy, um, just, gee, "outraged" by this' comments from them like that equals the fervor they had when Bush was in office. It takes any (that they even had) credibility and tanks it to basically zero.

Chuck

Not only the left but the vast majority of American voters...hence the Black guy is now a 2 term President.

Ausm

 

[chucky2]

Not only the left but the vast majority of American voters...hence the Black guy is now a 2 term President.

Ausm

I don't think vast majority means what you think it means...

 

[Ausm]

I don't think vast majority means what you think it means...

Sorry,let me Clarify Rmoney lost the popular vote by 5 million...now if he won you Rightists would have claimed it was a CRUSHING victory.

Ausm

 

[nageov3t]

Sorry,let me Clarify Rmoney lost the popular vote by 5 million...now if he won you Rightists would have claimed it was a CRUSHING victory.

Ausm

I don't think that has anything to do with the vast majority of the country "frothing at the mouth all consumed with all things Bush&Co", though. 😕

a large majority of the country didn't like Bush... I wouldn't say they frothed at the mouth shouting "WAR CRIMINAL! TRAITOR!" like the far leftists.

 

[HomerJS]

The problem really is, when the 'evil Bush&Co' was doing things like this (heck, not even this bad), The Left here was so frothing at the mouth all consumed with all things Bush&Co, that even threads that had nothing to do with Bush were BDSd by these Left jizz guzzlers. I mean, anyone that was here in P&N can remember the level of BDS from many of the P&N Lefties. Now, their Messiah is in office, and...WhereTF is their previous level of insanity??? Almost magically, their moral outrage evaporates, and you get little 'Oh, I'm just, my gosh, you know, wow, just, oh boy, um, just, gee, "outraged" by this' comments from them like that equals the fervor they had when Bush was in office. It takes any (that they even had) credibility and tanks it to basically zero.

Chuck

If you stop frothing and read you will find the left is equally bothered by this.

Problem I have is the same problem I had with Bush. No checks and balances. There should be an indepandant review post killing. If time there should be something in place similar to the FISA court, which is why I had a bird when Bush ignored it.

You can thank Cheney/Bush(2001) the current President has this kind of power.

I don't have a problem with it but I have have a problem with it unchecked.

 

[momeNt]

If you stop frothing and read you will find the left is equally bothered by this.

Problem I have is the same problem I had with Bush. No checks and balances. There should be an indepandant review post killing. If time there should be something in place similar to the FISA court, which is why I had a bird when Bush ignored it.

You can thank Cheney/Bush(2001) the current President has this kind of power.

I don't have a problem with it but I have have a problem with it unchecked.

POST killing? Shoot first ask questions later? What the fuck!

 

[DAGTA]

So we should be outrage because the United States lied about his age, not because of the drone strike? I am confused and do not know where to direct my outrage.

I don't care if you're 11. If you are going to work with a group that promotes itself on murdering their own people, have zero tolerance for women's rights, propagates hate for everybody that do not share your fundamental religious beliefs, you deserve a rocket up your ass.

I'll save my outrage for when Human Rights group found concrete evidence that Obama sent a drone strike to kill an American successor to Gandhi.

What happens when the gov't has solid information that you are tied to groups that promote the above? When we hear about you dying from a drone strike, should we celebrate removing another terrorist?

 

[TerryMathews]

If you stop frothing and read you will find the left is equally bothered by this.

Problem I have is the same problem I had with Bush. No checks and balances. There should be an indepandant review post killing. If time there should be something in place similar to the FISA court, which is why I had a bird when Bush ignored it.

You can thank Cheney/Bush(2001) the current President has this kind of power.

I don't have a problem with it but I have have a problem with it unchecked.

Yes. Bush created the power, Obama perfected it.

I'd hate to see what a Republican could do to one up what's going on right now.

 

[monovillage]

Rachel Maddow isn't mainstream?

Who?

Keep trying you piece of shit. Why don't you create another bullshit conspiracy thread to go with your new, "I'm a partisan hack, Obama hating, liar" avatar?
Oh and by the way, my links were from several months ago so none of the recent developments on this story were posted. I'm sure you knew that because you checked them out (of course you didn't).

I checked your links and saw a tiny little murmur of unhappiness, not the tsunami of anger and outrage that we'd be seeing from every media outlet from the NY Times to CNN if this was taking place under a Republican president, but keep living in a fantasy world.

 

[fskimospy]

Who?


I checked your links and saw a tiny little murmur of unhappiness, not the tsunami of anger and outrage that we'd be seeing from every media outlet from the NY Times to CNN if this was taking place under a Republican president, but keep living in a fantasy world.

Now now, you know that isn't true. Remember how you linked to a study on media bias that said there was no print media bias, along with a small, measurable, but probably insignificant tv bias?

How quickly faith overrides reason.

 

[Incorruptible]

What's funny is that Ausm is the thread creator. Eskimo doesn't like this either.

There are some retards in here that aren't really considered on this forum shills for obama, just dumb trolls that are playing stupid and asking what the big deal is.

I know, the ignorance from the left is really amazing, They just proved how full of shit they are with this

The problem really is, when the 'evil Bush&Co' was doing things like this (heck, not even this bad), The Left here was so frothing at the mouth all consumed with all things Bush&Co, that even threads that had nothing to do with Bush were BDSd by these Left jizz guzzlers. I mean, anyone that was here in P&N can remember the level of BDS from many of the P&N Lefties. Now, their Messiah is in office, and...WhereTF is their previous level of insanity??? Almost magically, their moral outrage evaporates, and you get little 'Oh, I'm just, my gosh, you know, wow, just, oh boy, um, just, gee, "outraged" by this' comments from them like that equals the fervor they had when Bush was in office. It takes any (that they even had) credibility and tanks it to basically zero.

Chuck

Agree, They were full of rage and screaming about bush being hitler and a fascist, now its obama and the POS just are silent now

If you stop frothing and read you will find the left is equally bothered by this.

Problem I have is the same problem I had with Bush. No checks and balances. There should be an indepandant review post killing. If time there should be something in place similar to the FISA court, which is why I had a bird when Bush ignored it.

You can thank Cheney/Bush(2001) the current President has this kind of power.

I don't have a problem with it but I have have a problem with it unchecked.

This is exactly what I have been talking about, the ignorant leftists defending that pos obama