Just went WarDriving

[Ime]

Originally posted by: alocurto
I am by no means a hacker but I do run a wireless network. I changed the channel to 6, enabled 128 bit encryption and don't broadcast the name. How at risk am I? I don't know how deep we can get into all this on the forums but how "easy" is it to get past the encryption, find the network and get on it.

Short version: If you are broadcasting a radio signal, it can be intercepted and decoded.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Ime

Originally posted by: alocurto
I am by no means a hacker but I do run a wireless network. I changed the channel to 6, enabled 128 bit encryption and don't broadcast the name. How at risk am I? I don't know how deep we can get into all this on the forums but how "easy" is it to get past the encryption, find the network and get on it.

Short version: If you are broadcasting a radio signal, it can be intercepted and decoded.

128 bit encryption can be cracked in a couple of hours...long enough to prevent most people from trying.

I use an 8 dbi external antenna on my Orinoco Wifi card, so my range is about 5x that of a regular card. When I wardrive, I find the network, get the GPS location, then post it to a wardrive website I belong to. Downtown in most major cities produces nice results...many corporate jackasses think they're cool by plugging an access point into their LAN, and graciously opening up their internal network and yummy T1 lines for browsing One network we got on we could see the shared folders and printers of anyone in the office...we printed a picture of a fat girl's ass on all their printers Then we posted a nice note in a document's folder explaining why wireless networks are dangerous. I'm a nice wardriver----others I know are not so nice.

 

[chiwawa626]

btw whats the point of this, you have internet access at home rite?

 

[Beattie]

We have a powerbook with an airport card, so the signal isnt the best. My friend is pricing antennas for it right now. It's interesting to see where the open spots are in my town. We went out again tonight and found another 31 networks, about a third had WEP on. It's surprising how many networks there are with the SSID = linksys and no WEP. I was even able to log into some people's routers.

Side note: Anyone have a good way to leave a person a message or find thier email address or something? I want to be able to send someone who's network I use a message. I cant use shares that are password protected, so that doesnt usually work.

 

[chiwawa626]

Originally posted by: Beattie
We have a powerbook with an airport card, so the signal isnt the best. My friend is pricing antennas for it right now. It's interesting to see where the open spots are in my town. We went out again tonight and found another 31 networks, about a third had WEP on. It's surprising how many networks there are with the SSID = linksys and no WEP. I was even able to log into some people's routers.

Side note: Anyone have a good way to leave a person a message or find thier email address or something? I want to be able to send someone who's network I use a message. I cant use shares that are password protected, so that doesnt usually work.

If they are on windows you can use windows messaging service or whatever its called like those spammers...

 

[alocurto]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Ime

Originally posted by: alocurto
I am by no means a hacker but I do run a wireless network. I changed the channel to 6, enabled 128 bit encryption and don't broadcast the name. How at risk am I? I don't know how deep we can get into all this on the forums but how "easy" is it to get past the encryption, find the network and get on it.

Short version: If you are broadcasting a radio signal, it can be intercepted and decoded.

128 bit encryption can be cracked in a couple of hours...long enough to prevent most people from trying.

I use an 8 dbi external antenna on my Orinoco Wifi card, so my range is about 5x that of a regular card. When I wardrive, I find the network, get the GPS location, then post it to a wardrive website I belong to. Downtown in most major cities produces nice results...many corporate jackasses think they're cool by plugging an access point into their LAN, and graciously opening up their internal network and yummy T1 lines for browsing One network we got on we could see the shared folders and printers of anyone in the office...we printed a picture of a fat girl's ass on all their printers Then we posted a nice note in a document's folder explaining why wireless networks are dangerous. I'm a nice wardriver----others I know are not so nice.

That is awesome. hahaha, fat girl's ass... nice choice!

 

[Sachmho]

ok so i've got a laptop, what else do i need to do this? and how easy is it... is there a program i can just launch that will do all the work, ie. find it, notify me, and connect to it? i'm new to this concept, please explain how i would go about doing this

 

[Beattie]

Originally posted by: Sachmho
ok so i've got a laptop, what else do i need to do this? and how easy is it... is there a program i can just launch that will do all the work, ie. find it, notify me, and connect to it? i'm new to this concept, please explain how i would go about doing this

Basically,
1) get netstumbler or macstumbler. There are other better programs, but these work.
2) get in your car
3) start the stumbler program
4) drive around until you see a network pop up in the stumbler application
5a) If it's an non-WEPped network, you may be online already using a DHCP address
5b) If it's a WEPped network, either crack thier WEP, or move along.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: Beattie
We have a powerbook with an airport card, so the signal isnt the best. My friend is pricing antennas for it right now. It's interesting to see where the open spots are in my town. We went out again tonight and found another 31 networks, about a third had WEP on. It's surprising how many networks there are with the SSID = linksys and no WEP. I was even able to log into some people's routers.

Side note: Anyone have a good way to leave a person a message or find thier email address or something? I want to be able to send someone who's network I use a message. I cant use shares that are password protected, so that doesnt usually work.

I usually see if they have any shared folders available. I then leave a text doc there. I don't see too many shared folders I can get into though.

 

[Fritzo]

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: Beattie
We have a powerbook with an airport card, so the signal isnt the best. My friend is pricing antennas for it right now. It's interesting to see where the open spots are in my town. We went out again tonight and found another 31 networks, about a third had WEP on. It's surprising how many networks there are with the SSID = linksys and no WEP. I was even able to log into some people's routers.

Side note: Anyone have a good way to leave a person a message or find thier email address or something? I want to be able to send someone who's network I use a message. I cant use shares that are password protected, so that doesnt usually work.

If they are on windows you can use windows messaging service or whatever its called like those spammers...

Hey...that's not a bad idea!

 

[Beattie]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: chiwawa626

Originally posted by: Beattie
We have a powerbook with an airport card

Side note: Anyone have a good way to leave a person a message or find thier email address or something? I want to be able to send someone who's network I use a message. I cant use shares that are password protected, so that doesnt usually work.

If they are on windows you can use windows messaging service or whatever its called like those spammers...

Hey...that's not a bad idea!

Yea, I was thinking that, but as we have a Mac, it's not exactly possible to do that.

 

[Evadman]

Last month I found 23 open netowrks on my drive to work. It is so sad. Free bandwith for me tho

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: alocurto
I am by no means a hacker but I do run a wireless network. I changed the channel to 6, enabled 128 bit encryption and don't broadcast the name. How at risk am I? I don't know how deep we can get into all this on the forums but how "easy" is it to get past the encryption, find the network and get on it.

i thought 6 was the default channel?

you also need to disable the ssid broadcasting.

 

[BennyD]

Originally posted by: Evadman
Last month I found 23 open netowrks on my drive to work. It is so sad. Free bandwith for me tho

you should get in then share buttloads of mp3's on thier bandwidth

 

[MistaTastyCakes]

In my apartment comples, I don't even have to drive. I think my neighbors have a wiereless networrk, cause I can connect to their network just fine. Silly geese don't feel like using WEP.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: MistaTastyCakes
In my apartment comples, I don't even have to drive. I think my neighbors have a wiereless networrk, cause I can connect to their network just fine. Silly geese don't feel like using WEP.

hehehe

me to, i can detect 3 or 4 waps from my desk. no driving needed.

 

[Sachmho]

thanks for the info, beattie... now i also need a wireless internet card, correct? which are good for this application/ are cost reasonable? Also I guess i need more info on using this netstumbler app, but i guess i should wait till i try it to find out what to ask... if anyone has any links to "how-to's" i'd appreciate it... thanks

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: Sachmho
thanks for the info, beattie... now i also need a wireless internet card, correct? which are good for this application/ are cost reasonable? Also I guess i need more info on using this netstumbler app, but i guess i should wait till i try it to find out what to ask... if anyone has any links to "how-to's" i'd appreciate it... thanks

Not to be offensive, but if you need a how-to for something like this, perhaps you shouldn't be doing it?

 

[Sachmho]

no i know enough about this stuff, i just haven't tried out these programs as of yet, so i was wondering if anyone had any initial advice... settle down a bit . Also nm about the wireless card, i found one i had around... so now i'm just curious about the software aspects

 

[Beattie]

Originally posted by: Sachmho
thanks for the info, beattie... now i also need a wireless internet card, correct? which are good for this application/ are cost reasonable? Also I guess i need more info on using this netstumbler app, but i guess i should wait till i try it to find out what to ask... if anyone has any links to "how-to's" i'd appreciate it... thanks

Yea, you need a wireless netword card. Linksys, Netgear and SMC are supposed to be good, cheap ones. Orinoco and Cisco are good also, but more expensive.

 

[hevnsnt]

driving from my house to my office there is 95 wide open networks..

I am currently writing articles on my website on How to wardrive, and how to protect *your* wireless network.. Keep checking it, they should be up in a couple days

 

[JEDI]

Originally posted by: Fritzo

Originally posted by: Ime

Originally posted by: alocurto
I am by no means a hacker but I do run a wireless network. I changed the channel to 6, enabled 128 bit encryption and don't broadcast the name. How at risk am I? I don't know how deep we can get into all this on the forums but how "easy" is it to get past the encryption, find the network and get on it.

Short version: If you are broadcasting a radio signal, it can be intercepted and decoded.

128 bit encryption can be cracked in a couple of hours...long enough to prevent most people from trying.

link to wep cracking program?

 

[aluehrs]

I like to war drive on my dell axim, with my dlink card, found over 60 in less than half an hour, with a good majority unprotected...

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
driving from my house to my office there is 95 wide open networks..

I am currently writing articles on my website on How to wardrive, and how to protect *your* wireless network.. Keep checking it, they should be up in a couple days

maximumpc did an article on it a couple of months ago. just steal their stuff.

 

[hevnsnt]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: hevnsnt
driving from my house to my office there is 95 wide open networks..

I am currently writing articles on my website on How to wardrive, and how to protect *your* wireless network.. Keep checking it, they should be up in a couple days

maximumpc did an article on it a couple of months ago. just steal their stuff.

haha.. yeah but it will go a lot deeper than that..