Just watched Wall-E

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: johnjohn320

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Homerboy

Originally posted by: Amused
I enjoyed the movie and the characters, but was annoyed at the overly obvious enviro-hysteria propaganda in it.

It would take literally hundreds of thousands if not millions of years for humans to accumulate so much trash, that it filled the entire planet. If the US were to continue producing landfill waste at our present rate, 1000 years worth of trash would fill a space 35 miles square and 200 feet deep. That's it. A tiny dot on a map of the US. The landfill crisis is a myth.

And not all humans would be able to remain sedentary or become obese in any given environment... which explains why in our given environment today, some are skinny, some are chubby and and some are obese.

It was political and social propaganda wrapped in a child's film, which I find rather disturbing.

You know what else isn't entirely accurate? Tom and Jerry cartoons.

Tom and Jerry didn't overtly introduce social and political propaganda/hysteria to kids.

I would say Wall-E is more like the children's version of "An Inconvenient Truth." It is political/social activism and hysteria wrapped in a child's film.

No.... no its not.
It's a children's movie with a suggestion that we need to take care of the planet and not be lazy asses. I teach my kids this every day when they leave the water running while brushing their teeth, waste paper coloring, leave lights on etc.

Agreed, but haha, you don't let your kids color??

*while coloring I guess I should have said... meaning don't just scribble one line and move onto another page. Use both sides of the paper etc.

 

[Molondo]

Lol, so who was it that didn't like Star trek because it had a "communist feel" to it?
rofl

 

[dquan97]

I think Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs has an agenda against buying blood diamonds

 

[Hyperlite]

good movie!

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Molondo
Lol, so who was it that didn't like Star trek because it had a "communist feel" to it?
rofl

Google "star trek" +communism. Even the writers admit it. The Star Trek society was communist. TNG's agenda was so obviously blatent when they added the ferengi. Portraying capitalists as evil little trolls who cannot be trusted.

You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see it.

 

[TheVrolok]

I loved the movie, but I guess I didn't really view it as an environmentalist propaganda film. I viewed it as a film about character, about Wall-E (loneliness/friendship/perseverance/etc.), and the environmental stuff as a cute little eco-friendly plot device. I never really got the feeling that anything was being shoved down my throat.

 

[Dumac]

Everything has a message; whether or not you see it depends on your state of mind.

 

[TheVrolok]

Originally posted by: Dumac
Everything has a message; whether or not you see it depends on your state of mind.

Rhetoric.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok

Originally posted by: Dumac
Everything has a message; whether or not you see it depends on your state of mind.

Rhetoric.

I'm glad you think I write effectively.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I loved the movie, but I guess I didn't really view it as an environmentalist propaganda film. I viewed it as a film about character, about Wall-E (loneliness/friendship/perseverance/etc.), and the environmental stuff as a cute little eco-friendly plot device. I never really got the feeling that anything was being shoved down my throat.

You might not have gotten the feeling, but it's there. The whole, "We have to save Earth!" message was a little much. The idea of humans killing the earth due to trash buildup is absurd in the first place. It's in that regard that the underlying message, intended or not, begins to come out. It's taking an idea we have in real life and blowing it out of proportion to create a storyline.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: geno
It's taking an idea we have in real life and blowing it out of proportion to create a storyline.

Doesn't that happen all the time though? Given that, there was something that felt a little off about the movie in that regard, and I think what Amused pointed out is it. It doesn't bother me much though, because basically what I got as a message was we're just going to screw ourselves in the long run. Nothing new, heh. It'll either be us killing each other off, or Google will become Skynet =P

But it was a cute story over all.. the Burn-E short was great, haha. I love those side stories.

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: geno
It's taking an idea we have in real life and blowing it out of proportion to create a storyline.

Doesn't that happen all the time though? Given that, there was something that felt a little off about the movie in that regard, and I think what Amused pointed out is it.

Yes, that's a very common element. I guess the distinction to make is whether or not it focuses on something controvertial and relevent. You mentioned Skynet. The same argument could be made for Terminator, perhaps as a warning to not put too much trust in technology. When you take that same analysis and apply it to keeping the Earth clean, people suddenly get tense and it becomes an "agenda". It makes it tougher for people to just take it at face value since it unnerves them on some level.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Molondo
Lol, so who was it that didn't like Star trek because it had a "communist feel" to it?
rofl

Google "star trek" +communism. Even the writers admit it. The Star Trek society was communist. TNG's agenda was so obviously blatent when they added the ferengi. Portraying capitalists as evil little trolls who cannot be trusted.

You'd have to be deaf, dumb and blind not to see it.

And all I can say is, "So what?"

Communism doesn't work because of human nature right now. Should basic human nature at any point be changed, through whatever the means may be, then it might work.

The mean old communists aren't under your bed, waiting for you to go to sleep so they can burn your money.


The Ferengi were originally introduced to be the new "bad guys," to replace Klingons from TOS, since they were now allies. But audiences found the Ferengi to be funny looking, not threatening, thanks to those darn big ears. So, they were relegated to their somewhat less-dignified role.
I guess I never took away from them that capitalism itself is bad. My observation was the message that unfettered greed is the problem.