Just upgraded to Windows 8.1 (rant)

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Virgorising

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Oh boy, ran into my first serious problem - sound skips or freezes for a moment when changing CPU power states. Example: playing music in Foobar2000 and running a video encoder in background. As soon as the encoder finishes its job - sound freezes for a moment. And then it's back to normal again until I start another batch. Then as the CPU goes back from idle to full load - BOOM! Skip skippity skip! My friend had similar issues and disabling C States fixed things for him. But that's not really a solution, since W7 had no such problems. Pro Audio guys are apparently tearing their hair out over this nonsense.

:eek::eek:
 

escrow4

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Microsoft is so stupid. Only microsoft could manage to somehow consume 20+ gigabytes of storage on pretty much nothing. And the bugs... omg. I was watching netflix on my htpc last night, and I exited fullscreen and then did a "show desktop" by clicking the lower right hand corner. After doing that, I would click on my firefox/netflix tab on the taskbar so I could resume watching. But the stupid @#$%G firefox window would not come back. Seriously you cant make this stuff up. Knowing this problem from past experience, I knew how to fix it. I opened the magnifier program then closed it. Boom, now I was able to click on my firefox tab on the taskbar and the window appeared as it should. Like I said, this company is just so bad... their product is complete trash and god (or lucifer) only knows how they got where they are.

You didn't know how to fix it. Show desktop is a toggle. Hit it again to toggle back or Win+D. Magnifier has nothing to do with anything. Seriously I'm not surprised Apple sells. Some people just can't handle an OS with options.
 

Virgorising

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Microsoft is so stupid. Only microsoft could manage to somehow consume 20+ gigabytes of storage on pretty much nothing. And the bugs... omg. I was watching netflix on my htpc last night, and I exited fullscreen and then did a "show desktop" by clicking the lower right hand corner. After doing that, I would click on my firefox/netflix tab on the taskbar so I could resume watching. But the stupid @#$%G firefox window would not come back. Seriously you cant make this stuff up. Knowing this problem from past experience, I knew how to fix it. I opened the magnifier program then closed it. Boom, now I was able to click on my firefox tab on the taskbar and the window appeared as it should. Like I said, this company is just so bad... their product is complete trash and god (or lucifer) only knows how they got where they are.

The lucifer thingy rocked and made me giggle.():)

Thing is, as I have posted, what I am deal breaker insulted by, is not stupidity, but greed and avarice obliterating all respect for a huge percentage of their demographic worldwide!!!!

I will run W8.1 the second someone gives me the numbers matched, tri power, big block '67 Vette. Even....the coupe, tho I want the convertible.

Not a moment before....will I go there.
 

Virgorising

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You didn't know how to fix it. Show desktop is a toggle. Hit it again to toggle back or Win+D. Magnifier has nothing to do with anything. Seriously I'm not surprised Apple sells. Some people just can't handle an OS with options.


The condescention, iciness and and inelegance in the above made me wince.D:
 

dkm777

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Update about my sound woes - disabling Dynamic Tick fixed it. It just goes to show how rapid release cycles are in fact not a good idea when you have an uncontrollable platform to support. I used to be a Mac user, but then I took an arr... no, wait, wrong forum. Anyway, Apple intimately knows what kind of hardware their OS needs to support and even they stumble sometimes. But MS can never be sure what kind of Frankenstein their Windows are going to end up on. Why copy a release model of a competitor who does things in a way that actually affords them a rapid release cycle? (I know the short-sighted answer - money. But only until a point when buyers see through the bullshit)
 

bbhaag

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I'm just curios but was disabling that option one you found in a Windows settings or was it one you had to find in your music player?
 

dkm777

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I'm just curios but was disabling that option one you found in a Windows settings or was it one you had to find in your music player?

It is done in the command line:

bcdedit /set disabledynamictick yes
 

Zodiark1593

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I think you miss my point ,its their OS so they are entitled to design it how they want,we as consumers have the choice if we want to buy their product,fact is modern hardware has changed a lot since Win95 days and Win7 is still based on that old design,as you know we have touch ,mobile phones ,tablets,PCs,laptops etc so in a way it makes sense to make an OS that can handle all that and focus fine tuning the hybrid design for the future,desktop PC nowadays is no longer on its own and unlike the old days has a lot of competition.
As a PC gamer, I beg to differ. :mad:
 

dkm777

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OK, I'm now officially declaring that I'm sick and tired of 8.1 inconsistencies and overall pretty naff usability. Wiping the drive and going back to 7. I'll miss the superior multicore performance, but at least I'll be able to do what I want in a consistent way without having to "context switch" ever so often. If MS doesn't take a leaf out of Apple's book with whatever comes after 8.x the I guess 7 will be the last MS OS I'll ever use.
 

Remobz

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My internet connection is slow. Can full version of Windows 8.1 be bought on retail CD?

Or am I forced to download it over the internet?
 

dkm777

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Depends on what country you are in. Our local MS department does indeed sell the DVD in a box.
 

glugglug

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Microsoft Windows 8 market share passes Windows Vista

Battle of the unloved operating systems
By Lawrence Latif


WEB ANALYTICS FIRM Netmarketshare claims that Microsoft's Windows 8 has overtaken Windows Vista in market share.
Microsoft's Windows 8 has had a frosty reception but that is nothing compared to the negative reaction Windows Vista encountered, making it one of Microsoft's most unpopular products. Now Netmarketshare's figures show that Windows 8, despite its marmite interface, has overtaken Windows Vista with 5.1 percent market share.

Actually, if you adjust the timeframe on the link above to show 1-2 years after Vista's release (since we are now 1 year and a couple months after Windows 8's release), instead of the current month, you will see that Vista had 11.45% market share at that time. So the combination of 8 and 8.1 is still about 2% behind Vista for the same time in its life cycle. If I edit the URL (can't go month-to-month that far in the UI) to get March 2008 (15 month of Vista as we are now in the 15th month of Windows 8(.1), they are pretty much tied (9.1% for Vista vs. 9.3% for Windows 8 and 8.1 combined). And it looks like that is mostly just because of a surge of people trying the brand new 8.1 right now.
 
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sandorski

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So this morning I had to restart cause Flash was acting up again. Upon restart Win 8 prompts me to Upgrade. I decided to and approx an hourish(download and Install) later I get into 8.1 and see a Button. :eek:

Wondering what it was for, I click on it, then lol as I realize it did nothing, essentially. More accurately, it did the same thing that would happen if I had clicked there without it. I suppose they Noob proofed it. :D

So far, that's all I notice to be different.
 

Berryracer

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If your PC is full of junk and 50 million programs clean install. All my 4 Win 8 systems have less than 15 (if that) core programs installed and are kept lean and clean.
 

ITJunkie

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Not a big fan so far and my issue is related to UAC and ownership permissions. I have a couple email archive PST's that I restored, gave full-control permission for my account and took ownership of them as well. None of it would work.
Try opening archive in Outlook and every time "access is denied". So I go into Local Security Policy -> Local Policies -> Security Options -> User Account Control: Run all administrators in Admin Approval mode and disable it.
Now I can open my archive in Outlook no problem but the metro apps no longer work. So I go back to security policy and re-enable. Metro apps work but my archive does not.
Fuck MS, their stupid UAC and Metro apps if I can't get the gawd damn OS to work for me the way I need it to!
 

Berryracer

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Not a big fan so far and my issue is related to UAC and ownership permissions. I have a couple email archive PST's that I restored, gave full-control permission for my account and took ownership of them as well. None of it would work.
Try opening archive in Outlook and every time "access is denied". So I go into Local Security Policy -> Local Policies -> Security Options -> User Account Control: Run all administrators in Admin Approval mode and disable it.
Now I can open my archive in Outlook no problem but the metro apps no longer work. So I go back to security policy and re-enable. Metro apps work but my archive does not.
Fuck MS, their stupid UAC and Metro apps if I can't get the gawd damn OS to work for me the way I need it to!
you can't fully disable UAC, Hibernation, and Virtual Memory with Windows 8 without breaking half the OS functions, Windows 7 FTW