just saw Kerry

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Carbo

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
Is this carbo guy for real? It's amazing how many looney right wingers we just have to simply ignore to get them to stop trolling.

It really is pretty startling. I am honestly scratching my head that such a senior member could spout this kind of laughably stupid nonsense.

Funny. I was thinking the same thing about you.

I never liked Bernie Carbo. Not much of a ball player

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

OTOH, GW gets that "deer in the headlights" look when he speaks that bothers me greatly (IMO, only a person with weak character would have those kind of eyes).

Interestingly, a recent Psychology Today article I read provided some observations about who would be elected based on birth order and physical characteristics. They gave Bush points for his "small eyes" which indicate power? Yeah, I was shocked too. They claim Bush will win the Presidency based on birth order (he is the oldest sibling, Kerry is not) and physical characteristics.

Hmm... well, I've spent a goodly part of my life working in sales, and when selling in person I have found it very important to examine the eyes in order to read the person. I have a great deal of experience in this. The first time I saw GW's eyes I was very disturbed (I pretty much didn't like him on sight from the first despite my strong conservative leanings). To me, his eyes show a very weak character that I would not turn my back on. Such as he will do whatever they think is necessary.

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: Vic
Back on topic: I saw Clinton speak in '96 and got the opportunity to shake his hand. Very powerful and intelligent. OTOH, GW gets that "deer in the headlights" look when he speaks that bothers me greatly (IMO, only a person with weak character would have those kind of eyes). I missed seeing Kerry speak when he was in town last month, but from what I have seen of him on TV he seems a bit of a boor.

This is pretty much spot on. :thumbsup:

Goodbye

???????? I fail to see how Carbo has said anything worse than everyone else..

 

[Xenon14]

Originally posted by: arsbanned

OTOH, GW gets that "deer in the headlights" look when he speaks that bothers me greatly (IMO, only a person with weak character would have those kind of eyes).

Interestingly, a recent Psychology Today article I read provided some observations about who would be elected based on birth order and physical characteristics. They gave Bush points for his "small eyes" which indicate power? Yeah, I was shocked too. They claim Bush will win the Presidency based on birth order (he is the oldest sibling, Kerry is not) and physical characteristics.

Interesting - psycholigcally it makes sense, since oldest siblings tend to be the 'leaders' by ways of how they grew up in the household. They're more independent and assertive.

As for physical characterstics, to me Kerry would seem more 'presidential' strictly based on physical appearance. Bush seems like a very easy going guy that would be great fun to BS with at the dinner table... not someone that is a leader.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

I never understood why people would want to elect a president they feel they can party with. Guess that just goes to show the mentality and stupidity of many Americans who think this election is nothing more than a popularity show. I could care less about liking the guy, if they can get the job done that's all I want.

 

[arsbanned]

Here's the article:

May the Tallest Man Win
Looking to predict November?s election returns? Let the pundits puzzle over voters? whims?and open the annals of psychology instead.

First principle: Big brother is always right.

Being the firstborn child doesn?t just mean you get to stay up later; it also may win you the country. Firstborn and only children are overrepresented everywhere in politics, from congressmen to Australian prime ministers. Recent U.S. presidential contests are no different: Big brother George W.nullnullbeat out little brother Al Gore; older brother Bill Clinton trumped Bob Dole, the second of four children.

Several hypotheses attempt to explain the successes of the firstborns and of only children. One theory holds that the boost comes from the initially undiluted resources firstborns receive from their parents. A rival interpretation posits that the dominance of firstborns in leadership roles is due to their early training as tutors, mentors (and rulers) of their younger brothers and sisters.

Stats:

George W. Bush: older brother to Jeb, Neil, Marvin, Dorothy and Robin (now deceased).

John Kerry: Second of four: John is an older brother to Diana and Cameron, but younger than Peggy.

Edge: Bush

Second principle: Height makes might.

Apparently, we really do look up to our leaders. The taller candidate has won every presidential contest in the past quarter-century. Recent presidents all tower above the average five-foot-nine American man: George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton see eye-to-eye at six foot two, and Ronald Reagan is a lanky six foot one. Runners-up tend to be shorter?think Michael Dukakis. In a case of the exception proving the rule,nullnullAl Gore, who won the popular vote in 2000, is two inches taller than W.

According to management professor Timothy Judge of the University of Florida in Gainesville, the connection between height and success is a self-fulfilling prophecy.nullnullTaller people are perceived as more competent and authoritative, Judge theorizes, so they are more likely to develop the high self-esteem that can lead to a job that brings a bigger paycheck.

Stats:

Bush: 5? 11?

Kerry: 6? 4?

Edge: Kerry

Third principle:

Nothing beats a pretty face. Even though we should know better, we tend to assume that strangers with baby faces?wide eyes, full lips, soft brow?are trustworthy, if naive. By contrast, those with heavy brows, small eyes and thin lips (think Richard Nixon) are seen as both powerful and cunning. Colgate University psychologist Caroline Keating digitally altered a photo of Bill Clinton?s face to make both a baby-face version and an artificially aged one. As she predicted, students rated ?young? Clinton as warmer and more honest; ?old? Clinton seemed more powerful.

So which faces win elections? Generally, we like leaders who have a bit of both extremes, says Keating, but it probably depends on whether voters prefer a shrewd leader or an honest one.

Stats:

Bush: His round chin makes him look boyish and genuine, says Keating, emphasizing his nice-guy image. Nonetheless, his small eyes and bushy brows signal dominance. A campaign focusing on personal integrity will put that face to good use, she says.

Kerry: Heavy brows, prominent chin and thin lips transmit dominance and status. His wavy, tousled, hair, more characteristic of boyhood, is an odd contrast. Keating guesses that people don?t know quite what to make of his face.

Edge: Bush, mostly because of the ?exposure effect?: Seeing the same face many times tends to render it more appealing.

Likely 2004 winner: George W. Bush

These psychosocial measures give Bush the edge?but keep in mind that they aren?t foolproof. Bill Bradley, a six-foot-five only child with a sweet face, lost the Democratic nomination in 2000.

 

[fallenangel99]

I am sure Kerry is a good speaker. I mean he was an attorney after all.. Same for Edwards

Cant wait for the debates!!!