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I thank the British that our founding fathers saw a need for the Bill Of Rights.

We have our Constitution and it's first 10 amendments thanks to your treatment of us as colonials. FTQ
 
Originally posted by: tcsenter
We do care about gun rights. Our thoughts are "Their only real use for the mass populous is killing people thus they are bad. Farmers should have them to protect their livestock but the mass population should not"
Odd. Farmers can use guns to protect chickens, but they can't use them to protect their homes or lives from violent career criminals.

Heh nice quote. Shame the guy was found guilty because he was found to have deliberatly shot to kill. He did not intend to scare them off but to kill them! Do you classify that as reasonable force? Has anyone actually got any decent reasons why anyone should have guns apart from stating the 2nd Amendment?

Oh and BTW I think someone here is trying to breach my 1st amandment right to free speach (If I lived in the US)



This thread should be locked and the original poster banned and horsewhipped.

I do belive that was a totaly inappropriate and pointless remark.
 
Originally posted by: Lynx516
Originally posted by: tcsenter
We do care about gun rights. Our thoughts are "Their only real use for the mass populous is killing people thus they are bad. Farmers should have them to protect their livestock but the mass population should not"
Odd. Farmers can use guns to protect chickens, but they can't use them to protect their homes or lives from violent career criminals.

Heh nice quote. Shame the guy was found guilty because he was found to have deliberatly shot to kill. He did not intend to scare them off but to kill them! Do you classify that as reasonable force? Has anyone actually got any decent reasons why anyone should have guns apart from stating the 2nd Amendment?

Oh and BTW I think someone here is trying to breach my 1st amandment right to free speach (If I lived in the US)



This thread should be locked and the original poster banned and horsewhipped.

I do belive that was a totaly inappropriate and pointless remark.

Can you read, or have you missed the 50+ posts of people giving LOGICAL reasons that guns shouldn't be banned. In fact very few people have even mentioned the 2nd amendment.
 
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: brigden
I don't think guns should be consider illigal. I appreciate the need of a civillian to protect himself. If he chooses to arm himself with a handgun that is his business, provided the gun is registered to him and he is certifibly trained to use it effectively.

The gun in the hand isn't the problem, it's often the hand holding the gun that is.

I know this is major flame-bait, but I don't care. There is no need for a civillian to own a handgun.

Which is it bub?

THERE IS NO NEED FOR A CIVILIAN TO OWN A HANDGUN

I APPRECIATE THE NEED OF A CIVILIAN TO PROTECT HIMSELF


Pick one....

DO YOU NEED A HANDGUN TO PROTECT YOURSELF?
 
Originally posted by: Lynx516
Originally posted by: tcsenter
We do care about gun rights. Our thoughts are "Their only real use for the mass populous is killing people thus they are bad. Farmers should have them to protect their livestock but the mass population should not"
Odd. Farmers can use guns to protect chickens, but they can't use them to protect their homes or lives from violent career criminals.

Heh nice quote. Shame the guy was found guilty because he was found to have deliberatly shot to kill. He did not intend to scare them off but to kill them! Do you classify that as reasonable force? Has anyone actually got any decent reasons why anyone should have guns apart from stating the 2nd Amendment?

Oh and BTW I think someone here is trying to breach my 1st amandment right to free speach (If I lived in the US)



This thread should be locked and the original poster banned and horsewhipped.

I do belive that was a totaly inappropriate and pointless remark.
Read the thread, understand why guns are NOT bad, and forget all that propaganda you have learned in Britain. BTW, 1st ammendment doesn't apply to private property (forums).
 
Originally posted by: brigden
Originally posted by: dxkj
Originally posted by: brigden
I don't think guns should be consider illigal. I appreciate the need of a civillian to protect himself. If he chooses to arm himself with a handgun that is his business, provided the gun is registered to him and he is certifibly trained to use it effectively.

The gun in the hand isn't the problem, it's often the hand holding the gun that is.

I know this is major flame-bait, but I don't care. There is no need for a civillian to own a handgun.

Which is it bub?

THERE IS NO NEED FOR A CIVILIAN TO OWN A HANDGUN

I APPRECIATE THE NEED OF A CIVILIAN TO PROTECT HIMSELF


Pick one....

DO YOU NEED A HANDGUN TO PROTECT YOURSELF?
I do. I'm not tall, strong, or a martial artist.
 
I'm not against gun ownership, I'm just digusted by the attitude many Americans have regarding gun ownership.
 
I'm not against gun ownership, I'm just disgusted by the attitude many Americans have regarding gun ownership
 
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Originally posted by: brigden
I'm not against gun ownership, I'm just digusted by the attitude many Americans have regarding gun ownership.

And I'm disgusted by people that buy into propaganda.
 
Heh nice quote. Shame the guy was found guilty because he was found to have deliberatly shot to kill. He did not intend to scare them off but to kill them! Do you classify that as reasonable force?
Errr...genius. When police discharge a firearm in defense of their lives, they do not try to "scare off" a would-be cop killer. They shoot to HIT their target. What the hell is the point of shooting to miss? Doesn't that kind of negate the very purpose of aiming a firearm at someone and pulling the trigger? Show me a firearms training course in the free world that trains shooters to miss their targets. Just one. Even one self-defense expert in the free world who advocates that people shoot to miss.

You'll find dozens of self-defense experts and civil authorities who warn against firing a warning shot to scare off intruders, but none who advocate it. You're pretty much the only idiot on the face of the planet who thinks this. Feeling pretty stupid right about now? No, I don't suspect you are, because idiots never grasp the extent of their own grotesque stupidity.

Martin shot because he was afraid for his safety upon discovering two violent career criminals in his house. His intention was to protect himself and the prosecution presented not a stitch of evidence to suggest otherwise. Martin was blinded by the criminal's flashlights seconds before he shot in their direction. Whether or not he intended to kill the intruders, wing them, or just make them sh-t their pants, has no bearing on the issue of justification. He was perfectly reasonable to perceive danger or threat to his own safety because there were violent criminals illegally in his home for nefarious purposes. He did not invite them in and shoot them. They entered his home illegally to victimize him. Nothing else matters.
 
Originally posted by: Lynx516
It was on in the UK for the first time. Shows a very scary view of some of the culture on the other side of the pond.
What are people's views on gun control.

PS I know this is a flame magnet so lets keep the discussion rational.

I shall start off by stating that in the UK we had on shooting in a school and guns where banned noone realy complained. In the US ou have multiple shootings in school yet no one seems to bat an eyelid. This seen from the other side of the pond seems very strange.

If you get to base your opinion on American culture off of Bowling For Columbine, we get to base ours off of Monty Python. I would say they are about an equal representation of a country's culture.

EDIT: Actually, I take that back. Monty Python is more representative of UK culture than BFC is of American culture, and is probably based more on fact that Moore's so-called "documentary."
 
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