Just looked at Tom Cruise's IMDB page and..

[mikeymikec]

At the risk of repeating myself:

Tom Cruise is a great actor, PERIOD.
Why else would he be making so much money?

The Twilight franchise has been insanely successful, ergo they're great movies?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Saga_%28film_series%29

The second installment, New Moon, followed on November 20, 2009, breaking box office records as the biggest midnight screening and opening day in history, grossing an estimated $72.7 million.

Box office $3,345,177,904

In 2010, Stewart was listed as the highest-earning female actress in the Vanity Fair "2010's Top Hollywood Top Earners List", with an estimated earning of $28.5 million for her movie roles in 2010.

 

[zerocool84]

The Twilight franchise has been insanely successful, ergo they're great movies?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twilight_Saga_(film_series)

That's one franchise, can't compare it to Tom Cruise who's had hits going on for almost 30yrs now. Actors would love to stay relevant for just a couple of years. I don't like all his movies but he's successful for this long for a reason.

 

[mikeymikec]

That's one franchise, can't compare it to Tom Cruise who's had hits going on for almost 30yrs now. Actors would love to stay relevant for just a couple of years. I don't like all his movies but he's successful for this long for a reason.

Number1 made a comment saying that Tom Cruise is obviously a great actor because he's made a lot of money. My counterpoint was that so has the Twilight series of films, the implication being that making money through movies clearly isn't an indicator of greatness in acting.

If your point is that Tom Cruise is a reasonable businessman with lots of money and/or that he has clever people pointing him in the right direction (e.g. picking the most promising and appropriate projects to involve him in), then I would agree with you, however that has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to act.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Number1 made a comment saying that Tom Cruise is obviously a great actor because he's made a lot of money. My counterpoint was that so has the Twilight series of films, the implication being that making money through movies clearly isn't an indicator of greatness in acting.

Kind of an apples to oranges counterpoint, I don't think you can compare the success of a movie franchise to that of an actors total work like that, but in general my point was 9 out of 10 of his movies are *at least* good even by the standards of someone who might not like him because of the religious stuff.

 

[mikeymikec]

Kind of an apples to oranges counterpoint

That was precisely what I was trying to illustrate about the comments from Number1 I was responding to.

 

[IamDavid]

The hatred towards Cruise never made sense to me. He is bat**** crazy but he can still act better than most actors alive today.


Edge of Tomorrow was the best scifi movie in years/decades.

 

[Ichinisan]

The hatred towards Cruise never made sense to me. He is bat**** crazy but he can still act better than most actors alive today.


Edge of Tomorrow was the best scifi movie in years/decades.

It was good, but Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was much better.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Tom Cruise is one of those actors whose association to a film often makes me at least interested in learning more about the film. In my opinion that is the definition of a good actor.

 

[Fingolfin269]

It was good, but Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was much better.

I agree. But what in the world does that have to do with a Tom Cruise thread? Might as well just write "It was good, but The Godfather was much better."

 

[Ichinisan]

The hatred towards Cruise never made sense to me. He is bat**** crazy but he can still act better than most actors alive today.


Edge of Tomorrow was the best scifi movie in years/decades.

It was good, but Dawn of the Planet of the Apes was much better.

I agree. But what in the world does that have to do with a Tom Cruise thread? Might as well just write "It was good, but The Godfather was much better."

The Godfather was not a "Sci-Fi movie from the last year/decades." I think Edge of Tomorrow was being over-rated in the post I responded to.

 

[Childs]

2010 Knight and Day - Nah
Roy Miller

I liked Knight and Day. The only questionable Cruise movie I've seen in the last 15 years or so was Jack Reacher, and it was still entertaining in spots. Cruise hating seem to be more about his personal life, not the movies.

 

[KeithTalent]

I liked Knight and Day. The only questionable Cruise movie I've seen in the last 15 years or so was Jack Reacher, and it was still entertaining in spots. Cruise hating seem to be more about his personal life, not the movies.

I liked Knight & Day and Jack Reacher. Opening scene of Reacher is freaking badass.

KT

 

[Childs]

I liked Knight & Day and Jack Reacher. Opening scene of Reacher is freaking badass.

KT

There was just something about Jack Reacher...felt like a rehash of another Cruise movie, but I don't think it was. And Jai Courtney.

Apparently they are making a Jack Reacher sequel.

 

[SP33Demon]

Number1 made a comment saying that Tom Cruise is obviously a great actor because he's made a lot of money. My counterpoint was that so has the Twilight series of films, the implication being that making money through movies clearly isn't an indicator of greatness in acting.

If your point is that Tom Cruise is a reasonable businessman with lots of money and/or that he has clever people pointing him in the right direction (e.g. picking the most promising and appropriate projects to involve him in), then I would agree with you, however that has absolutely nothing to do with his ability to act.

Cruise has 3 Golden Globes which is as many as Dicaprio and Pitt combined for supporting or lead acting. He can certifiably act.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Just noticed this too, take a look at some of the great directors/producers he's worked with over the years. It's not like he's made a thousand movies either.

Oliver Stone, Steven Spielberg (twice), Tony Scott (twice), Martin Scorsese, Paul Thomas Anderson, Rob Reiner, Ron Howard, Sydney Pollack, Ridley Scott, Stanley Kubrick, Cameron Crowe (twice), Brian De Palma, Michael Mann, Robert Redford, John Woo, J.J. Abrams, Bryan Singer

 

[IamDavid]

The Godfather was not a "Sci-Fi movie from the last year/decades." I think Edge of Tomorrow was being over-rated in the post I responded to.

Planet of the Apes was good but not original. I'd say top 10 of the past 10 years but not higher the Edge of Tomorrow simply because of its uniqueness.

 

[suzy.m.newman]

Tom is a great movie star, but his personal life sucks

 

[Ichinisan]

Tom is a great movie star, but his personal life sucks

Free iPod?

You registered on a web forum to make a comment that has been said 1,000x over?

 

[mrjminer]

Free iPod?

You registered on a web forum to make a comment that has been said 1,000x over?

I was about to post the same thing, but I didn't want to be a dick

It struck me as one that we'll see in a 6 months - 1 year pop back up offering some iPods after harvesting 30 seemingly innocuous posts

 

[z1ggy]

Scientology gives him THEEEE POOOOWWWERRRRR!!!!!!

 

[PlanetJosh]

I'm a fan but not of crime dramas. So I've seen most of his sci fi movies and some dramas and I liked most of them but I generally don't like the plots of typical crime movies that don't involve science fiction. So I just don't watch those even if his acting turned out to be great in them.

 

[CZroe]

I was about to post the same thing, but I didn't want to be a dick

It struck me as one that we'll see in a 6 months - 1 year pop back up offering some iPods after harvesting 30 seemingly innocuous posts

The terminology I am trying to coin for those stages of Geurrilla Marketing SPAM accounts is "cultivate" and "harvest." They "cultivate" by trying to make a few legit replies to avoid being detected then the "harvest" by taking that trust and cashing it in with a SPAM post. Farmers don't tend to their crops all day every day, but they do make the necessary visits/maintenance to ensure a harvest when the time comes.

 

[Childs]

I was about to post the same thing, but I didn't want to be a dick

It struck me as one that we'll see in a 6 months - 1 year pop back up offering some iPods after harvesting 30 seemingly innocuous posts

lol Whats wrong with you guys. Its a first post...not every post on this forum is thought provoking or enlightening. This is OT after all. If this person doesn't post again its probably because they think the forum is filled with a-holes!

 

[CZroe]

lol Whats wrong with you guys. Its a first post...not every post on this forum is thought provoking or enlightening. This is OT after all. If these person doesn't post again its probably because they think the forum is filled with a-holes!

You must be joking. A first post is motivated by something that makes the registration process worth it. No one goes through all the trouble just to say what was already said. It's bad enough when brain-dead people who registered for other reasons do it. Weird Al even sang about it (see sig).

 

[Childs]

You must be joking. A first post is motivated by something that makes the registration process worth it. No one goes through all the trouble just to say what was already said. It's bad enough when brain-dead people who registered for other reasons do it. Weird Al even sang about it (see sig).

He/she could have been lurking for awhile, then simply decided to create an account and participate. Maybe he/she likes Tom Cruise movies. Look at most of the comments in this thread, they are essentially the same kind of comment.