Just got my new Llano rig up and running...

[hans007]

Here is my old system ...

ECS A785GM-M7
4GB ddr3-1066 kingston
Athlon II X2 245
Kingston 64GB v100 ssd

which was well pretty fast (though the specs are not that great) but for normal use it was fine.

Curiousity and impulse buying turned it into

ECS A75F-M2
8GB ddr3-1600 patriot
A8-3850
Crucial M4 64GB

Now all i have on it right now is a clean windows install and I can tell you right now that seat of the pants ness, I absolutely can't tell the difference between the 2 systems haha. I guess they are both 2.9ghz and have similar cpu cores, and both have SSDs so for regular puttering around the internet this wasnt that great and idea. So the best part of the llano is the lower power consumption and the gpu, which will help with the older games I haven't gotten around to playing (and well coudnt even play on my old rig).

So anyway, if there are some oddball benchmarks anyone wants run that weren't in any of the major reviews, post in the thread I guess. The old rig will be for sale in FS/FT fairly soon as well.

One thing I do have to say is, the new ECS board has even less bios options than the old one. Not a big concern for me, but if you are into that stuff, probably not the board for you. Otherwise it seems like a good board.

 

[sangyup81]

might as well throw a Phenom II on that ECS

 

[hans007]

might as well throw a Phenom II on that ECS

yeah its had a phenom II on it before and a video card. just downgraded at the time since well i didnt have time for games for a while (was busy with a lot of stuff most of this year). thinking I might just turn that machine into an htpc if i dont sell it. could have just bought a phenom II again obviously , the old board can even take the x6, but I wanted to try out the new hotness

 

[formulav8]

no oc options in the board I take it?

 

[formulav8]

Also I am waiting for the FM maturing to take place before I jump in.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

everyone thinks ecs is low quality and cheap/free but ive always found them to be pretty good, very stable, bug free, long lasting, decent features, nice layout and linux compatible

 

[hans007]

no oc options in the board I take it?

Nope. All you can do is set ram speed.

 

[hans007]

everyone thinks ecs is low quality and cheap/free but ive always found them to be pretty good, very stable, bug free, long lasting, decent features, nice layout and linux compatible

My last 4 boards have been ecs and several of my friends and brother have ecs and they seem fine. Oddly my last board before this run of ecs was an Intel retail board that was doa. Had an Asus that died in the socket 939 days so I guess I just buy the cheapest since it doesn't seem to matter much unless you have to overclock

 

[formulav8]

i've never had a problem with ecs. they actually produce boards for some of the higher brands.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

My last 4 boards have been ecs and several of my friends and brother have ecs and they seem fine. Oddly my last board before this run of ecs was an Intel retail board that was doa. Had an Asus that died in the socket 939 days so I guess I just buy the cheapest since it doesn't seem to matter much unless you have to overclock

makes sense to me. id rather get a couple cheap boards that work fine than get something decked out, buggy and expensive. that way when new features like usb3 come out or sockets change you always have the most current chipset

ecs is actually in fremont. if you ever have problems with their stuff they will help you out. they will even help you build your machine. they also sell components you might need like cases and cpus at good prices.

 

[busydude]

Nope. All you can do is set ram speed.

A reviewer for Hardware Canucs posted here saying that.. aside from the team that designed this chip.. no one actually has an idea about OC'ng the chip. I am not able to find that post, but he said it will take some time for MB manufacturers to clearly understand what is actually going on with that chip.

 

[hans007]

well, after playing with the machine all day it's basically what i expected of it. its quick, but not absurdly quick. and it uses very low power. given what i paid for it using deals i am pretty happy with it.

i got the motherboard for $70- $13 rebate - $10 newegg new user coupon, and free shipping offer + tax. so just under $55 for me.

cpu i got on tigerdirect for $120 after getting a $20 off 100 for signing up for tigerdirect preferred.

So for $175, I think its decent value. I am not sure I'd pay $240 ish for a combo with say a $100 board and the $140 chip for what this is.

also sadly i had bid on an auction for an a8-3850 on ebay and forgot about it and won after i had already ordered one at tigerdirect. anyone want a $120 a8-3850 retail box?

 

[BD231]

Lets see some personal benchmarks and maybe a youtube vid showing real time gameplay? :thumbsup:

 

[hans007]

well one thing i can say is, the idle power is like 27W on my killawatt. the old rig was around 41W. my psu is what came with a supermicro micro ATX server case, but it is 80plus bronze. 27W is quite nice

 

[sm625]

Yes 27W is nice. I have an athlon X2 245 system with an 8600GTS. It idles at 90 watts. The llano would eat it for breakfast. There are a lot of people who go to stores like best buy and drop $100 on a card that is not much better than an 8600gts. Somebody needs to make them aware that for only $100 to $150 more they will soon be able to get a whole new desktop tower that will run even faster. I'm predicting $250 quadcore llano specials from companies like Dell in the next 6 months.

 

[tweakboy]

Put her in sleep mode... gl

 

[ElFenix]

well one thing i can say is, the idle power is like 27W on my killawatt. the old rig was around 41W. my psu is what came with a supermicro micro ATX server case, but it is 80plus bronze. 27W is quite nice

and i thought i was doing well with my 630 at 60 watts idle. though it does have a couple 120mm fans, a video card (7300LE so no real power but it was before idle power became a concern), a couple hard drives, and ddr2 (which takes more power than ddr3, iirc).

 

[hans007]

its funny, 10 years ago, i was realy into overclocking becuase well you actaully could see the performance difference.

now, i kind of get a kick out of trying to see how low i can make the idle power. i mean this llano is more than fast enough for anything i do.

i have been playing 1920x1080 starcraft 2 at mostly medium / settings and it seems fine also.

 

[BD231]

Well thanks for beings so lazy about it all, great thread.

 

[richierich1212]

I just swapped out a Athlon II X2 250u for an i3-2100 in my mITX system and with a SSD, and 2x 1.5TB HDDs it idles at 47w using Antec Neo 520c. Not as nice as your Llano setup, plus it has crappier graphics.

 

[Soulkeeper]

I just swapped out a Athlon II X2 250u for an i3-2100 in my mITX system and with a SSD, and 2x 1.5TB HDDs it idles at 47w using Antec Neo 520c. Not as nice as your Llano setup, plus it has crappier graphics.

"Not as nice"

yeah, but it's mitx

 

[frozentundra123456]

Yes 27W is nice. I have an athlon X2 245 system with an 8600GTS. It idles at 90 watts. The llano would eat it for breakfast. There are a lot of people who go to stores like best buy and drop $100 on a card that is not much better than an 8600gts. Somebody needs to make them aware that for only $100 to $150 more they will soon be able to get a whole new desktop tower that will run even faster. I'm predicting $250 quadcore llano specials from companies like Dell in the next 6 months.

A price like this would be the only thing that would make me buy a Llano rig, unless I decided to give up gaming entirely. However, I cant see this happening. Maybe a lower end Llano rig with the slowest APU and slow ram that would handicap it even further, and a really cheap power supply. The lowest price I have seen on an x4 640 system is over 400.00, so given that the Llano cpu and motherboard are both more expensive, I dont see any chance of a price in the 250.00 range.

 

[Kevmanw430]

Hey man, mind trying something? Over on NBR, we discovered that mobile Llano, or at least MX APU's, are fully unlocked in the multiplier department. You can use K10Stat and OC very easily! One guy got it running at 3.5GHz, but it got too hot in the DV6 it was in. Most find the sweet spot at 2.6-8GHz. Give it a try!

 

[hans007]

doesnt work... bummer.

 

[richierich1212]

Hey man, mind trying something? Over on NBR, we discovered that mobile Llano, or at least MX APU's, are fully unlocked in the multiplier department. You can use K10Stat and OC very easily! One guy got it running at 3.5GHz, but it got too hot in the DV6 it was in. Most find the sweet spot at 2.6-8GHz. Give it a try!

Wow that's a pretty awesome find