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No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Mrburns2007

click me

There deleting my replies, if they don't like what was said they censor it.
GEEZ! There are some pretty fvcking bitter people on that board. Sad...very sad. 2 1/2 years after the election most of them are still ranting about it. They make Morph and moonbeam look like insignificant little specks. The paranoia on that board is 2nd to none!

Wow.

Sad.
 

Looney

Lifer
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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Typical liberal viewpoint. Individuals cannot be expected to be responsible for their own actions.

Out of curiosity, if the city of New York decided that they didn't want to pay the law enforcement any longer... and they went on strike, so that there were no law enforcement within New York, and looting started to happen, where would the fault go to?

If looting started happening and I owned a shop in new york, you better damn well know I'd be protecting it lethally.

KK

I didn't ask if you would protect it.

Ok, well I ain't going to shoot the police officers that aren't there to protect me. Let';s see I'm going to shoot the one's responsible, the looters.

KK

I don't think you're following the conversation.
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Alright, the looters of course should be held accountable, but shouldn't the city be as well for removing the law enforcement in the first place?
 

KK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Typical liberal viewpoint. Individuals cannot be expected to be responsible for their own actions.

Out of curiosity, if the city of New York decided that they didn't want to pay the law enforcement any longer... and they went on strike, so that there were no law enforcement within New York, and looting started to happen, where would the fault go to?

If looting started happening and I owned a shop in new york, you better damn well know I'd be protecting it lethally.

KK

I didn't ask if you would protect it.

Ok, well I ain't going to shoot the police officers that aren't there to protect me. Let';s see I'm going to shoot the one's responsible, the looters.

KK

I don't think you're following the conversation.
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Alright, the looters of course should be held accountable, but shouldn't the city be as well for removing the law enforcement in the first place?

So by the same reasoning you are trying to say, whenever a college football team wins the championship and starts a riot in the town. I should be blaming the city and the police for not stopping it. How assine is that?

KK

 

Amused

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Typical liberal viewpoint. Individuals cannot be expected to be responsible for their own actions.

Out of curiosity, if the city of New York decided that they didn't want to pay the law enforcement any longer... and they went on strike, so that there were no law enforcement within New York, and looting started to happen, where would the fault go to?

The individuals who are looting.
 

Mrburns2007

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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
Originally posted by: Moralpanic
Typical liberal viewpoint. Individuals cannot be expected to be responsible for their own actions.

Out of curiosity, if the city of New York decided that they didn't want to pay the law enforcement any longer... and they went on strike, so that there were no law enforcement within New York, and looting started to happen, where would the fault go to?

It'd be the Bush Criminal Clans fault.
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Ah, so you can't come up with a logical response, so you're trying to be sarcastic?

Thomas Hobbes said it best when he said the nature of man is a nature of war (State of Nature). When there are no laws or higher power to control us, we live like beasts in the wild, where every man is in competition with every other man. So is it not logical to assume, if we disrupt that nature and remove law, that some looting is going to occur?

yes I was being sarcastic and to tell the truth the press were being retarded about the looting. After Saddam fell you knew people were going to tear the place up for a little while and then Law and Order would be returned slowly.

Better that they let there emotions out and will be much calmer, in 6 months most people will forget.

 

Looney

Lifer
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So by the same reasoning you are trying to say, whenever a college football team wins the championship and starts a riot in the town. I should be blaming the city and the police for not stopping it. How assine is that?

If they knew ahead of time that disorder would occur, wouldn't you think they should be held accountable for inaction? How is this any different than realizing if there were no law and order in New York, that looting would occur?

It's ok if you believe the government should not be held accountable... i'm sure a lot of people agree with you. Personally, i would also blame the government... because it's obvious that if there were no law, that some people would take advantage of it.
 

KK

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Moralpanic
So by the same reasoning you are trying to say, whenever a college football team wins the championship and starts a riot in the town. I should be blaming the city and the police for not stopping it. How assine is that?

If they knew ahead of time that disorder would occur, wouldn't you think they should be held accountable for inaction? How is this any different than realizing if there were no law and order in New York, that looting would occur?

It's ok if you believe the government should not be held accountable... i'm sure a lot of people agree with you. Personally, i would also blame the government... because it's obvious that if there were no law, that some people would take advantage of it.

I'd rather place the blame on the individual rather than the government. After all it's the people that makes the country not the government.

KK

 

Amused

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MP's opinion is what comes from a nation that is constantly told not to defend themselves on an individual level, and to rely on government instead.

It was funny (and sad) to watch the LA riots, and see that the overwhelming majority of people defending themselves and their property were Asian. It seems immigrants know their constitutional rights better than people who have lived here for generations and have been pussified by liberal "government knows best" ideology. Hell, they go as far as to label self defense as "vigilantism."
 

KK

Lifer
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I just read that thread on the fight caused because the bouncer tried to tell someone to stop smoking. The bouncer ended up dead. By your reasoning the bouncer and the law was the problem. Not the smoker who killed them. Well to be in all fairness you probably agree that the smoker is alittle guilty in the case too.

KK
 
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Originally posted by: Amused
MP's opinion is what comes from a nation that is constantly told not to defend themselves on an individual level, and to rely on government instead.

It was funny (and sad) to watch the LA riots, and see that the overwhelming majority of people defending themselves and their property were Asian. It seems immigrants know their constitutional rights better than people who have lived here for generations and have been pussified by liberal "government knows best" ideology. Hell, they go as far as to label self defense as "vigilantism."

I remember the footage of the Korean arcade owner and his friends with their firearms at his place of business. More power to them, I would do the same thing if I were a business owner and a bunch of fscktards were rioting.
 

Triumph

Lifer
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The best way to broaden your horizons is to engage in discussion with people who think exactly like yourself.
 

GasX

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Originally posted by: Mrburns2007
Guess I didn't post enough "Bush is the Devil" posts.

What a bunch of lamers....

If you think overall that George W. Bush is doing a swell job, or if you wish to see Republicans win, or if you are generally supportive of conservative ideals, please do not register to post, as you will likely be banned.
Sounds like a closed minded mutual admiration society.
 

tcsenter

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Thought the site was about Democracy and there would be some debate but it is mostly calling Bush names.
Well, yeah, its a site for hardcore leftwingers! Its like the Free Republic or something, but even worse. The Free Republic forums will allow opposing views so long as nobody breaks the rules.
 

Moonbeam

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It would be interesting to see on this board whether the left or the right posts more times, 'You are a moron'.