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CasioTech

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Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx
Originally posted by: mugs
I knew this thread would turn out well. I had no idea there would be Halo bashing though. :laugh:

Are you talking about my post?

I wasn't bashing Halo, it's just a different experience and a different kind of gamer that will spend a lot of time with a Wii and one who will spend a lot of time in Halo 3.

At the end of the day, the Wii is a system that you can enjoy great 1st party titles on like SMG and MP3, and occasionally get the good or great 3rd party title like Zak and Wiki.

Wii definitely gets the bulk of the shovelware tho, Ninjabread Man, a crappy port of every CG movie based game out there with waggle tacked on for good measure. You really have to watch where you put your money or you'll end up with a game that was perfectly good on the PS3 and XBox 360, but was turned to shit by forcing wiimote/nunchuk action on the Wii, like Tomb Raider Anniversary.

What you need to understand is that Nintendo only makes 1 first party game per generation for all it's franchises. So there WILL NOT be another Mario, Metroid, Smash Bros, Zelda, most likely. You can forget about 3rd party titles, without capcom (and their predictable style and gameplay) there are no other good 3rd party devs.

The only reason the wii is winning in sales is because it's everyones SECOND console. Whoever owns a Wii does it in addition to a real console. That said, if the Wii is everyones supplementary (2nd) console, it will have the greatest number of sales. Doesn't make it the better system.

It also appeals to the masses the same way a ps2 does. Devs can easily develop for it (low budget) and the ps2 was the first console where the balance of gameplay and graphics reached the point where the consumer can be happy forever with the quality and value of games, much like what the SNES did.


 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
The only reason the wii is winning in sales is because it's everyones SECOND console. Whoever owns a Wii does it in addition to a real console. That said, if the Wii is everyones supplementary (2nd) console, it will have the greatest number of sales. Doesn't make it the better system.
Better is quite subjective these days for consoles. Actually, it has been for most of eternity.. the dreamcast was a pretty damn good system. Look what happened to it. There is no better really, just more in tune of what YOU like specifically.

And how the hell is the Wii not a "real" console? Because it's opened up a market no one else could penetrate until now?
 

eelw

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Originally posted by: randomlinh
And how the hell is the Wii not a "real" console?

It's not real because there isn't all those games filled with sex and violence.

And for those dense people here, I really should put <sarcasm> tags around my comment.
 

CasioTech

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because a real console has to compete with todays cutting edge. A console made to last until 2011 with the capabilities of 2001 xbox is what makes nintendo take a step back in gaming evolution.

motion controls? Fine, evolve the hardware for todays standards, not making ps2/gamecube/ds quality games.

Luckily for nintendo, their 'market' is children so they don't need state of the art tech to power their consoles. And people who rave about playing old school Mario games? Is that really a reason to buy the console? To play games from 1988?

It would be a LIE to say that "grandma" can pick up the wiimote with nunchuck and play Metroid Prime 3 or No More Heroes. The Wiimote is no easier than using a regular controller.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: eelw
Originally posted by: randomlinh
And how the hell is the Wii not a "real" console?

It's not real because there isn't all those games filled with sex and violence.

And for those dense people here, I really should put <sarcasm> tags around my comment.

It doesnt need ANY games - chicks dig the Wii, and nothing gets them hotter than letting them kick your ass in wii boxing. And when its time for action, you've already got a vibrator in your hands. Score!

And violence? The wiimote is a deadly weapon. It even comes with a nunchuk in the box! I'm sure its responsible for far more physical violence and pain than every other console before it.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx
Originally posted by: mugs
I knew this thread would turn out well. I had no idea there would be Halo bashing though. :laugh:

Are you talking about my post?

I wasn't bashing Halo, it's just a different experience and a different kind of gamer that will spend a lot of time with a Wii and one who will spend a lot of time in Halo 3.

At the end of the day, the Wii is a system that you can enjoy great 1st party titles on like SMG and MP3, and occasionally get the good or great 3rd party title like Zak and Wiki.

Wii definitely gets the bulk of the shovelware tho, Ninjabread Man, a crappy port of every CG movie based game out there with waggle tacked on for good measure. You really have to watch where you put your money or you'll end up with a game that was perfectly good on the PS3 and XBox 360, but was turned to shit by forcing wiimote/nunchuk action on the Wii, like Tomb Raider Anniversary.

What you need to understand is that Nintendo only makes 1 first party game per generation for all it's franchises. So there WILL NOT be another Mario, Metroid, Smash Bros, Zelda, most likely. You can forget about 3rd party titles, without capcom (and their predictable style and gameplay) there are no other good 3rd party devs.

The only reason the wii is winning in sales is because it's everyones SECOND console. Whoever owns a Wii does it in addition to a real console. That said, if the Wii is everyones supplementary (2nd) console, it will have the greatest number of sales. Doesn't make it the better system.

It also appeals to the masses the same way a ps2 does. Devs can easily develop for it (low budget) and the ps2 was the first console where the balance of gameplay and graphics reached the point where the consumer can be happy forever with the quality and value of games, much like what the SNES did.

So after having given several GOOD reasons to actually buy one (1st party games, mass appeal, VC, etc), all that hot air is merely to prove a semantic point that the wii isnt a "real" console?
 

RandomFool

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Originally posted by: CasioTech
because a real console has to compete with todays cutting edge. A console made to last until 2011 with the capabilities of 2001 xbox is what makes nintendo take a step back in gaming evolution.

motion controls? Fine, evolve the hardware for todays standards, not making ps2/gamecube/ds quality games.

Luckily for nintendo, their 'market' is children so they don't need state of the art tech to power their consoles. And people who rave about playing old school Mario games? Is that really a reason to buy the console? To play games from 1988?

It would be a LIE to say that "grandma" can pick up the wiimote with nunchuck and play Metroid Prime 3 or No More Heroes. The Wiimote is no easier than using a regular controller.

First off Metroid Prime 3 and No More Heroes weren't designed to be picked up and played by Grandma. They were both targeted at mainstream gamers. Games that are designed make simple effective use of the controls are much easier to get the hang of than a standard controller. Metroid was also about 1000 times easier to control using the wiimote than Halo or COD with the standard controller. So it's a step in the right direction.

Also Nintendo has released two zelda games on the n64 and gamecube and there were two Metroid games on the gamecube. I'm pretty positive Nintendo will continue to support thier own system.
 

NFS4

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Originally posted by: randay
update?

Still enjoying the hell out of it :)

Picked up the second guitar controller for Guitar Hero III. It's the most fun when all of my friends get together and play. I played last weekend in with my friend's wives for two hours straight (not like that :)) on GH III... my GF wouldn't play. She doesn't want to embarrass herself in front of everyone:roll:

And I've been slowly making my way through Zelda. I have Super Smash Brothers on order. Other than that, I've been enjoying Wii Sports -- still -- and have been playing classic mario games that I download (Super Mario Brothers, SMB3 and Super Mario World).

I have no intentions of getting rid of this system.